2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread : VOTING ENDS 8:00PM EST TONIGHT

[Fafnir]

Kobe doesn't really play the passing lanes as much as he just plays lazy on that side of the court.

Giving him credit for that is like crediting Wade for creating the cherry pick dunks when he doesn't bother to get back while whining to the refs. Occasionally you get something from it, but on the whole....

[nickagneta]

Kobe doesn't really play the passing lanes as much as he just plays lazy.

During the regular season, yes. he definitely conserves energy defensively(laziness) to have the energy to perform offensively. No question about that.

I think the playoffs are an entirely different animal for Kobe though and he brings his entire two way game then.

[KGs Knee]

Kobe doesn't really play the passing lanes as much as he just plays lazy on that side of the court.

Giving him credit for that is like crediting Wade for creating the cherry pick dunks when he doesn't bother to get back while whining to the refs. Occasionally you get something from it, but on the whole....

This is true to an extent.  Kobe just seems to pick and choose his moments these days.  I have seen him just flat out leave shooters wide open.  I've also seen him try hard and play very good D.

[nickagneta]

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[KGs Knee]

Ah, Nick, you beat me to it.

[nickagneta]

Ah, Nick, you beat me to it.

I'm fast man.....

[rondoallaturca]

West
(Lakers)
1. Thunder
2. Rockets
3. Timberwolves
4. Spurs
5. Mavericks
6. Grizzlies
7. Nuggets
8. Suns
9. Warriors
10. Blazers
11. Clippers

East
1. Heat
2. Knicks
3. Bucks
4. Cavaliers
5. Magic
6. Wizards
7. Celtics
8. Pacers
9. Hawks
10. Bulls
11. Nets
12. 76ers
13. Pistons

- Admittedly, the Phoenix ranking was based more on a lack of a presser than anything else. I would easily have ranked this a playoff team otherwise.

- The East was actually harder to rank than the West for me. It's less competitive but so is the disparity between teams. The Bucks and Cavaliers can easily be interchanged, and I probably spent more time on the Eastern rankings from #5 onward than I did for everything else.

[Fafnir]

Kobe doesn't really play the passing lanes as much as he just plays lazy.

During the regular season, yes. he definitely conserves energy defensively(laziness) to have the energy to perform offensively. No question about that.

I think the playoffs are an entirely different animal for Kobe though and he brings his entire two way game then.

His last two playoff runs I saw all the same lapses, though somewhat less frequently. Still a negative defensive presence in my view. Though not a crippling one.

[Who]

Coming off a torn achilles, I am expecting Kobe to be a liability defensively next season.

[Rondo2287]

West
(Lakers)
1. Thunder
2. Rockets
3. Timberwolves
4. Spurs
5. Mavericks
6. Grizzlies
7. Nuggets
8. Suns
9. Warriors
10. Blazers
11. Clippers

East
1. Heat
2. Knicks
3. Bucks
4. Cavaliers
5. Magic
6. Wizards
7. Celtics
8. Pacers
9. Hawks
10. Bulls
11. Nets
12. 76ers
13. Pistons

- Admittedly, the Phoenix ranking was based more on a lack of a presser than anything else. I would easily have ranked this a playoff team otherwise.

- The East was actually harder to rank than the West for me. It's less competitive but so is the disparity between teams. The Bucks and Cavaliers can easily be interchanged, and I probably spent more time on the Eastern rankings from #5 onward than I did for everything else.

Whoah Hawks out of the playoffs.  RT

[KGs Knee]

Haha...I have the Hawks at #2 in the east

[rondoallaturca]

Whoah Hawks out of the playoffs.  RT

Yep, goes to show how closely I viewed the back end of the Eastern playoffs race. In the end I felt that Atlanta had more holes than the others, and was one of those teams that are a better postseason team than a regular season team - except that it doesn't have the tools to reach the postseason. It's a shame because I really tried my best to try to fit it in the back end of the Eastern playoffs; I certainly don't think it's anywhere close to being a top 4 team like some others have them though.

[Gainesville Celtic]

You may have missed it but lots of interesting disucssion HERE about how per Sinergy Sports the Memphis Grizzlies are teh best team in Celticsblog draft (evah...)

[KGs Knee]

You may have missed it but lots of interesting disucssion HERE about how per Sinergy Sports the Memphis Grizzlies are teh best team in Celticsblog draft (evah...)

All I see are raw stats and PER...

Where's the PPP for/against?

[Rondo2287]

Whoah Hawks out of the playoffs.  RT

Yep, goes to show how closely I viewed the back end of the Eastern playoffs race. In the end I felt that Atlanta had more holes than the others, and was one of those teams that are a better postseason team than a regular season team - except that it doesn't have the tools to reach the postseason. It's a shame because I really tried my best to try to fit it in the back end of the Eastern playoffs; I certainly don't think it's anywhere close to being a top 4 team like some others have them though.

Wade, Pierce, Boozer, Nene not making the playoffs is kinda unimaginable in my mind.