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Re: 2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread - 3rd round open for business
« Reply #1305 on: August 21, 2013, 03:24:46 PM »

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I love Rubio and Dwight together just like I loved the idea of Rondo and Dwight together.

I think Rubio's passing ability is going to be insanely difficult to contain in the pick and roll with Dwight as a screener and surrounded by shooters.

I wouldn't be worried about Rubio's lack of shooting. I would worried about the shooting ability of 2 through 4. My two guard and my two forwards. So long as those guys are good shooters, Rubio's lack of a jumper doesn't worry me. If those guys are bad shooters, problems can compound quickly and become problematic. But by themselves, Rubio and Dwight should be able to work very well together.

Speaking of PnR, wouldn't Rubio's man simply go under the screen and sag back on Howard? Essentially jamming Howard up

A little point guard defending Dwight? That is a problem?

That sounds like a good thing to me.

I probably explained that weird.

Basically both guys ignoring Rubio and just falling back on Howard.

The big still has to step out on Rubio to stop Rubio from having a wide open lane to the basket. And Dwight is still one of the quickest centers rolling to the hoop, one of the physically strongest players in the league in being able to hold deep post position (when he beats his man to the post) and an explosive leaper capable of catching and finishing a wide range of lob passes.

Stopping Rubio's drive and recovering to Dwight after showing on Rubio while limiting Rubio's passing angles is going to be very difficult for opposing teams ... even with Rubio's difficulty with his jump-shot.

Just look at Rubio and Pekovic in Minnesota.
If Jeff Green shoots anything like he does at the end of last year, the out on the failed pick and roll with Howard and Rubio is still a sharp shooting Green from three who can take a mismatch or an overplay on the three off the dribble to the hole if he wants.

Re: 2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread - 3rd round open for business
« Reply #1306 on: August 21, 2013, 03:26:29 PM »

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Re: 2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread - 3rd round open for business
« Reply #1307 on: August 21, 2013, 03:28:21 PM »

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Re: 2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread - 3rd round open for business
« Reply #1308 on: August 21, 2013, 03:29:20 PM »

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You're focusing on the one offensive weapon they have. Shut it down and what do they do? Rubio's gonna start swishing three's?

I'd assume he would if he is wide open.


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« Reply #1309 on: August 21, 2013, 03:33:15 PM »

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Orlando Kobes select George Hill

Re: 2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread - 3rd round open for business
« Reply #1310 on: August 21, 2013, 03:33:25 PM »

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« Reply #1311 on: August 21, 2013, 03:34:40 PM »

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Orlando Kobes select George Hill

Hm. If I had to pick the best possible PG to put next to Kobe, I'd say Jrue Holiday, but like the Hawks of last year, George Hill is still a winner here as well.

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« Reply #1312 on: August 21, 2013, 03:38:45 PM »

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Orlando Kobes select George Hill

Hm. If I had to pick the best possible PG to put next to Kobe, I'd say Jrue Holiday, but like the Hawks of last year, George Hill is still a winner here as well.

Hmm, Kobe and Hill on one team, Duncan and West on another, both solid squads, imagine if they were on one team....
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« Reply #1313 on: August 21, 2013, 03:43:01 PM »

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Nice pick IMO. Hill is the guy i didn't have the guts to take.

Now that it's not an issue I'm curious what folks honestly would have thought of MEM's pairing Hill as Dumars to CP3's Isaiah Thomas?
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« Reply #1314 on: August 21, 2013, 03:45:10 PM »

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Third round is over so everyone should have an idea on what talent is still left. Lakers still looking to trade up from 5.14.

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« Reply #1315 on: August 21, 2013, 03:45:32 PM »

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« Reply #1316 on: August 21, 2013, 03:49:53 PM »

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Orlando Kobes select George Hill

Hill is an excellent PG to have when you have Kobe on your team. You're doing a very admirable job building around him.

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« Reply #1317 on: August 21, 2013, 03:50:02 PM »

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Orlando Kobes select George Hill


Nice pick IMO.

Hill is the guy i didn't have the guts to take. Now that it's not an issue I'm curious what folks honestly would have thought of MEM's pairing Hill as Dumars to CP3's Isaiah Thomas?

I like it in a vacuum but it seems like you'd have a lot of problems with bigger backcourts.  If you drafted a starting SG later with the intent of playing the Paul/Hill tandem a lot situationally, kinda like what Golden State did with Curry and another guy, it'd look better.


TPs all around for the Hill compliments, BTW - picking last is nice for attention.

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« Reply #1318 on: August 21, 2013, 03:54:55 PM »

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Orlando Kobes select George Hill


Nice pick IMO.

Hill is the guy i didn't have the guts to take. Now that it's not an issue I'm curious what folks honestly would have thought of MEM's pairing Hill as Dumars to CP3's Isaiah Thomas?

I like it in a vacuum but it seems like you'd have a lot of problems with bigger backcourts.  If you drafted a starting SG later with the intent of playing the Paul/Hill tandem a lot situationally, kinda like what Golden State did with Curry and another guy, it'd look better.

this is almost exactly in line with what i was thinking and why i was too "chicken" to take Hill --- who i think is an underated PG b/c he's not flashy.



Orlando Kobes select George Hill

Hill is an excellent PG to have when you have Kobe on your team. You're doing a very admirable job building around him.

It seems like GMs are prioritizing fit over amassing talent (regardless of fit) more than in past CBDs. I think the tweak to rounds 1/2/3 and the relative absence of trades has led to that...
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« Reply #1319 on: August 21, 2013, 04:00:00 PM »

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I love Rubio and Dwight together just like I loved the idea of Rondo and Dwight together.

I think Rubio's passing ability is going to be insanely difficult to contain in the pick and roll with Dwight as a screener and surrounded by shooters.

I wouldn't be worried about Rubio's lack of shooting. I would worried about the shooting ability of 2 through 4. My two guard and my two forwards. So long as those guys are good shooters, Rubio's lack of a jumper doesn't worry me. If those guys are bad shooters, problems can compound quickly and become problematic. But by themselves, Rubio and Dwight should be able to work very well together.

Speaking of PnR, wouldn't Rubio's man simply go under the screen and sag back on Howard? Essentially jamming Howard up

A little point guard defending Dwight? That is a problem?

That sounds like a good thing to me.

I probably explained that weird.

Basically both guys ignoring Rubio and just falling back on Howard.

The big still has to step out on Rubio to stop Rubio from having a wide open lane to the basket. And Dwight is still one of the quickest centers rolling to the hoop, one of the physically strongest players in the league in being able to hold deep post position (when he beats his man to the post) and an explosive leaper capable of catching and finishing a wide range of lob passes.

Stopping Rubio's drive and recovering to Dwight after showing on Rubio while limiting Rubio's passing angles is going to be very difficult for opposing teams ... even with Rubio's difficulty with his jump-shot.

Just look at Rubio and Pekovic in Minnesota.
If Jeff Green shoots anything like he does at the end of last year, the out on the failed pick and roll with Howard and Rubio is still a sharp shooting Green from three who can take a mismatch or an overplay on the three off the dribble to the hole if he wants.


Lurking just enough to catch this.

Also Roy's comment of "somehow the combo made the WCF last year" was a bit misleading, as he neglected to mention that the 2012 CB Draft Blazers also included Joe Johnson and IP's pick for DKC sixth man of the year, amongst a couple of other very successful complimentary players who I won't name.  The combo can go far when surrounded with the right pieces.

Rubio's shot is still dicey, but he still makes his teammates better and had the numbers to back that up (coming off his rookie season at least).

A full off season for Rubio this year should help him get back to where he was pre-injury.

EDIT: i suppose my first paragraph was more a response at Roy's shot than anything that would go towards helping the rubio/howard backers haha.

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