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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #120 on: July 01, 2013, 09:36:04 AM »

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can we trade 3 of our 50 shooting guards for him in a sign and trade?  maybe toss in one of our 30 power forwards

(keep Bradley though, natch)
Just doesn't make sense for Boston and its current makeup to sign Evans to a pretty big deal.  Evans is the type of player you add to an already established young team or to a veteran team that needs youth.  He would have been a great fit last summer, not this one.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #121 on: July 01, 2013, 09:40:21 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #122 on: July 01, 2013, 09:42:29 AM »

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can we trade 3 of our 50 shooting guards for him in a sign and trade?  maybe toss in one of our 30 power forwards

(keep Bradley though, natch)

Well, the obvious option for a sign and trade would be Humphries.  He would actually be an upgrade at PF for Sacramento, and would allow us to take back a large salary for Evans.

It also would be an interesting option as part of a Rondo trade (I don't think Rondo and Evans would be a good fit together).

The other option, is make a sign and trade part of the Nets trade.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #123 on: July 01, 2013, 09:43:20 AM »

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can we trade 3 of our 50 shooting guards for him in a sign and trade?  maybe toss in one of our 30 power forwards

(keep Bradley though, natch)
Just doesn't make sense for Boston and its current makeup to sign Evans to a pretty big deal.  Evans is the type of player you add to an already established young team or to a veteran team that needs youth.  He would have been a great fit last summer, not this one.
He's 23, so he's a young asset that will improve once he is on a less crappy franchise. He's exactly what we need. An asset that will help us now and increase in value as he gets older.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #124 on: July 01, 2013, 09:47:54 AM »

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can we trade 3 of our 50 shooting guards for him in a sign and trade?  maybe toss in one of our 30 power forwards

(keep Bradley though, natch)
Just doesn't make sense for Boston and its current makeup to sign Evans to a pretty big deal.  Evans is the type of player you add to an already established young team or to a veteran team that needs youth.  He would have been a great fit last summer, not this one.

Wholeheartedly agreed.

Tyreke needs to go to a situation where he can be a very nice 4th option / sixth man.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #125 on: July 01, 2013, 10:18:33 AM »

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can we trade 3 of our 50 shooting guards for him in a sign and trade?  maybe toss in one of our 30 power forwards

(keep Bradley though, natch)
Just doesn't make sense for Boston and its current makeup to sign Evans to a pretty big deal.  Evans is the type of player you add to an already established young team or to a veteran team that needs youth.  He would have been a great fit last summer, not this one.
He's 23, so he's a young asset that will improve once he is on a less crappy franchise. He's exactly what we need. An asset that will help us now and increase in value as he gets older.
Seems to me the Celtics are trying to be a more crappy franchise right about now. After 4 years in Sactown, I wonder if Evans really wants to be part of yet another 5 year rebuild project? It is, after all, his choice where he wants to be signed and traded too.

We all love to talk about these sign and trades and sometimes don't even think about what the player would want given he gets to chose where he goes. For instance, I thought I saw a Tweet saying Evans wouldn't go anywhere where the team is thinking of playing him at the SF position, regardless of the money.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #126 on: July 01, 2013, 10:29:51 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.

He is a restricted free agent.  Most GMs understand that if someone hands Tyreke Evans a big offer sheet, the intention is to make it so huge that Sacramento won't match.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #127 on: July 01, 2013, 10:42:34 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

They have Ryan Anderson.

They traded their pick next year for Holiday.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #128 on: July 01, 2013, 10:52:00 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

They have Ryan Anderson.

They traded their pick next year for Holiday.
Actually, that pick is top 5 protected so Boris is correct in saying New Orleans could get a top 5 pick next year.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #129 on: July 01, 2013, 11:01:11 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

They have Ryan Anderson.

They traded their pick next year for Holiday.
Actually, that pick is top 5 protected so Boris is correct in saying New Orleans could get a top 5 pick next year.

I know, but I doubt it. They're going to be vastly improved from last year. Davis' in his second year, the addition of Holiday, and a FA signing (said to be looking at Evans and Kevin Martin) and they're a sneaky good.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #130 on: July 01, 2013, 11:06:30 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

They have Ryan Anderson.

They traded their pick next year for Holiday.
Actually, that pick is top 5 protected so Boris is correct in saying New Orleans could get a top 5 pick next year.

I know, but I doubt it. They're going to be vastly improved from last year. Davis' in his second year, the addition of Holiday, and a FA signing (said to be looking at Evans and Kevin Martin) and they're a sneaky good.
Doesn't change the fact that Boris is right. If they stink enough they could have a top 5 pick next year. Injuries happen. Bad seasons happen. Bad chemistry happens. Bad luck happens.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #131 on: July 01, 2013, 11:10:37 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

They have Ryan Anderson.

They traded their pick next year for Holiday.
Actually, that pick is top 5 protected so Boris is correct in saying New Orleans could get a top 5 pick next year.

I know, but I doubt it. They're going to be vastly improved from last year. Davis' in his second year, the addition of Holiday, and a FA signing (said to be looking at Evans and Kevin Martin) and they're a sneaky good.
Doesn't change the fact that Boris is right. If they stink enough they could have a top 5 pick next year. Injuries happen. Bad seasons happen. Bad chemistry happens. Bad luck happens.

Anything can happen. You're quite right. Maybe we win #18 next season and the Pelicans have the worst record in the league.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #132 on: July 01, 2013, 11:14:30 AM »

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Sidenote--if the Thunder are left at the altar by Kevin Martin then the Harden Trade becomes even more of a head-slapper.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #133 on: July 01, 2013, 11:29:51 AM »

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Sidenote--if the Thunder are left at the altar by Kevin Martin then the Harden Trade becomes even more of a head-slapper.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #134 on: July 01, 2013, 11:38:30 AM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

Well played Pelicans, well played.

I agree, I was initially surprised by that Holiday trade. But if they can unload Gordon for an expiring contract, and then sign Evans, they will have Holiday/Evans/Vasquez in the backcourt, Lopez/Davis up front, and enough money (I think) to sign a max SF and maybe a stretch 4.

If Davis turns into a #1, Holiday and a top-tier SF will give them #2 and #3 pieces that could be championship level.

And who knows, if they somehow stink again next year they will get another top-5 pick in a loaded draft.

They have Ryan Anderson.

Missed that, thanks. This puts them in even better shape than I thought.