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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #105 on: June 30, 2013, 11:42:00 PM »

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As @ESPNSteinLine reported, Pelicans will meet with Tyreke Evans late tonight. Told they will have an offer sheet in hand--a big one.

I'm at the edge of my seat.

Like I said, $10 million annually at minimum.  Probably more.  We might or might not like Reke here, but we almost certainly don't want to pay what he'll fetch.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #106 on: June 30, 2013, 11:47:45 PM »

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As @ESPNSteinLine reported, Pelicans will meet with Tyreke Evans late tonight. Told they will have an offer sheet in hand--a big one.

I'm at the edge of my seat.

Like I said, $10 million annually at minimum.  Probably more.  We might or might not like Reke here, but we almost certainly don't want to pay what he'll fetch.

We'll see, I'd pay it myself. That is Courtney Lee, Jordan Crawford, Fab Melo leaving basically.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #107 on: June 30, 2013, 11:51:07 PM »

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Jrue, Tyreke, (potentially) Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis is a nice young nucleus, if a bit redundant at the two, which I assume means they're going to try and offload Gordon.

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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #108 on: June 30, 2013, 11:54:54 PM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #109 on: July 01, 2013, 12:00:46 AM »

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Would love to see Ainge land Tyreke at a price similar to Jeff Green...

I don't understand the Pelicans motivation here, unless they have plans to move Gordon.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #110 on: July 01, 2013, 12:02:35 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.
Which kind of means, owners still have not learned their lesson regarding saving themselves from over spending and another lockout will be right around the corner.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #111 on: July 01, 2013, 12:03:42 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.

Lucky for us, we're in no position to dive into the free agency frenzy.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #112 on: July 01, 2013, 12:06:17 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.
Which kind of means, owners still have not learned their lesson regarding saving themselves from over spending and another lockout will be right around the corner.

Looking at the NY teams, unfortunately that might be a possibility...

Would love to see Ainge land Tyreke at a price similar to Jeff Green...

I don't understand the Pelicans motivation here, unless they have plans to move Gordon.

$9M a year for Tyreke? No thanks.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #113 on: July 01, 2013, 12:06:23 AM »

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Admittedly, I am not 100 percent familiar with Tyreke as a player.

I thought he was a good shooter, but based on comments throughout this thread, maybe not.

If he's not a good shooter, then I would pass.

I think the skill of being a good shooter is being REALLY underestimated. Matter of fact, if the Celts had better shooters last season other than Terry and Lee, we may have beaten the Knicks.

The likes of Felton, Shumpert and Melo killed us with the outside shot.

In other words, what I am saying is if Tyreke can knock down a consistent jump shot and 3 pointer, pick him up!

If he's more of a pass first type player, then pass.

We have plenty of those. That's one of the problems I have with Avery Bradley. He may be great defensively and can sometimes knock down a jump shot, but he's limited offensively and not a very good ball handler. His turnovers killed us this year in the playoffs.

That's why I would actually rather just swap Humph to the Bobcats for Ben Gordon, who's a very good shooter.

When you compile some bigs and good shooters, you can space the floor so well and outplay the opposing team.

That's one thing Miami had going for it with Birdman/Bosh playing the paint, and the likes of Lebron/Ray/Battier knocking down 3s.

The problem was we didn't have playmaking and inside scoring. The offense we had was revolved completely around jump shooting.

With Rondo down, AB and old Pierce ran point.

An offense revolving around the worst shot in basketball - long 2s - is bound to be inferior. Top that off with the injuries.

AB was not a playmaker. That's his problem. Not that he wasn't a shooter.

We had nothing going on inside the paint. KG and Pierce could go there maybe once per game (exaggerating). Our 6'1 point guard was basically our only source of inside scoring and he went down.

A 6'6 bully who can penetrate at will will open up the offense.

Evans compliments AB perfectly. One is a playmaker, one plays off ball.

Question is if Evans can coexist with Rondo.

AB did. AB is not a great shooter. But he cut to the basket. Even in the half court he was so good with Rondo. In my opinion the idea that Rondo simply cannot coexist with non-shooters is untrue.

However, JG and CLee should have, in theory, been good cutters. They were not. It might be a result of Doc's offense. Might be because AB's simply a far superior off ball cutter.



We are rebuilding. Doesn't matter if the team is not filled out with role players yet. Ben Gordon is not a player that matters. If we get rid of Humphries and leverage Gordon into an asset/get a 2nd rounder in return, by all means. Otherwise, it doesn't matter right now.



Miami has LeBron and, to a lesser extent, Wade scoring inside, not the other way round. Birdman is not an inside threat. Bosh is reduced to being a spot up shooter. As you've said, their offense needs 2 things. Someone scoring inside and shooters feeding off that.

Evans would relieve Rondo's scoring load and playmaking load a lot.

I don't feel strongly about Smith or Evans but if we can get them cheap, by all means.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #114 on: July 01, 2013, 12:12:28 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.
Which kind of means, owners still have not learned their lesson regarding saving themselves from over spending and another lockout will be right around the corner.

I think the CBA is working - look at Wallace's deal, it's one of the 5 worst in the league, probably the worst since the lockout, and it's "only" 10 million per for 3 years.  6-8 years ago the Knicks alone had multiple deals worse than that, and there were plenty more scattered around the league.

The biggest thing the CBA's done is reduce the length of deals so teams are stuck with bad contracts for fewer seasons, and they're tradeable earlier on.  That alone fixes a lot of the toxic contract problems.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #115 on: July 01, 2013, 12:13:10 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.
Which kind of means, owners still have not learned their lesson regarding saving themselves from over spending and another lockout will be right around the corner.

Surely you're not suggesting some owners were disingenuous about their motives during the lockout with all that talk of parity.

Perish the thought.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #116 on: July 01, 2013, 12:59:23 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.
Which kind of means, owners still have not learned their lesson regarding saving themselves from over spending and another lockout will be right around the corner.

I think the CBA is working - look at Wallace's deal, it's one of the 5 worst in the league, probably the worst since the lockout, and it's "only" 10 million per for 3 years.  6-8 years ago the Knicks alone had multiple deals worse than that, and there were plenty more scattered around the league.

The biggest thing the CBA's done is reduce the length of deals so teams are stuck with bad contracts for fewer seasons, and they're tradeable earlier on.  That alone fixes a lot of the toxic contract problems.
Weren't the Joe Johnson and Eric Gordon contracts after the lockout? I think we will see more bad contracts this year for mid level star talent. Lin also has a really bad contract. $5 million for Brandon Roy when he was diagnosed by insurance doctors as not being able to ever play basketball again is pretty awful too.

I think you are right in that the CBA has shortened bad contracts. The CBA is slowing down bad spending but the owners are still overpaying talent like crazy. I think will will see a raft of bad contracts signed this year. The talent there after Paul and Howard is fringe level All-Stars. A lot will get franchise player money.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #117 on: July 01, 2013, 09:19:48 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.
Which kind of means, owners still have not learned their lesson regarding saving themselves from over spending and another lockout will be right around the corner.

I think the CBA is working - look at Wallace's deal, it's one of the 5 worst in the league, probably the worst since the lockout, and it's "only" 10 million per for 3 years.  6-8 years ago the Knicks alone had multiple deals worse than that, and there were plenty more scattered around the league.

The biggest thing the CBA's done is reduce the length of deals so teams are stuck with bad contracts for fewer seasons, and they're tradeable earlier on.  That alone fixes a lot of the toxic contract problems.
Weren't the Joe Johnson and Eric Gordon contracts after the lockout? I think we will see more bad contracts this year for mid level star talent. Lin also has a really bad contract. $5 million for Brandon Roy when he was diagnosed by insurance doctors as not being able to ever play basketball again is pretty awful too.

I think you are right in that the CBA has shortened bad contracts. The CBA is slowing down bad spending but the owners are still overpaying talent like crazy. I think will will see a raft of bad contracts signed this year. The talent there after Paul and Howard is fringe level All-Stars. A lot will get franchise player money.
I would honestly be surprised if any player was given full max (aside from Paul and Howard).  That doesn't mean there won't be massively overpaid players (there will), I just don't see anyone else getting full max.
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #118 on: July 01, 2013, 09:25:08 AM »

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Please no. If Tyreke is getting paid eight digits, that's not a good sign for this offseason's free agency. Once one player is wildly overvalued like that, it increases the market value of everyone else.

Tyreke is a couple years off of a rookie of the year season, and even with his struggles is averaging 17.5 points and 5 assists for his career.  And he has a TON of potential, to not only be a good player, but to be a superstar.  And the fact that his struggles came on such a terrible franchise, I think a lot of GMs will be happy to give him a second chance.

I think anything less than $10 million a year would be an absolute steal for someone like him. 

He is high risk, but the reward is potentially high enough that he will cost a premium.

What doesn't make as much sense is the glut of guards NOH will have.  They better hope they can find a taker for Gordon.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #119 on: July 01, 2013, 09:30:19 AM »

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can we trade 3 of our 50 shooting guards for him in a sign and trade?  maybe toss in one of our 30 power forwards

(keep Bradley though, natch)
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