The Celtic-Clipper trade talk (merged) - Clippers back out.

[crownontherocks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

For now, the Clippers and Celtics plan to reconnect on Tuesday morning to further negotiate the Garnett-Rivers deal, league sources tell Y!

Was just about to post this

[Kane3387]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

For now, the Clippers and Celtics plan to reconnect on Tuesday morning to further negotiate the Garnett-Rivers deal, league sources tell Y!

Was just about to post this

Lame.

[esel1000]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

For now, the Clippers and Celtics plan to reconnect on Tuesday morning to further negotiate the Garnett-Rivers deal, league sources tell Y!

Was just about to post this

Finally won one haha, I need to make little games for myself to keep from going crazy

[CT32]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

why? my point is boston doesnt need this done.  they can call rivers bluff and see if he coaches.  he probably doesnt.  let hollins or some other coach get a crack at it.  plus they don't have to pay rivers if he quits.  why is this so important for boston if they don't get what they want?

cause if not now, they won't have the pieces to make a trade anymore. and you make it seem so simple, there's alot of things involved in contracts. they're most probably going to have to pay rivers even if he doesnt coach

[rondohondo]

All the Brian Shaw reports, and reports of the trade dying are all coming from LA Sources , aren't they?

Clippers leaking nonsense to the media out there

Those scumbags are bluffing big time


Stand strong Danny!

[crownontherocks]

All the Brian Shaw reports, and reports of the trade dying are all coming from LA Sources , aren't they?

Clippers leaking nonsense to the media out there

Those scumbags are bluffing big time


Stand strong Danny!

The only problem is ainge already caved in when he said they didnt need to get bledsoe in return

[CT32]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

Celtics have the pieces that LAC wants under contract. So that's the leverage. We have the pieces they want; they are simply one path to possibly get an extra asset to speed up the rebuilding process. The Clippers are setting the tone for the next several years to try to keep Chris Paul and re-sign Blake.


And I think of it this way: If I'm LAC and I upgrade from VDN to Doc and Jordan to KG and get to keep Bledsoe only giving up a crappy late first, I'm ecstatic. Therefore it's a bad deal for the C's and they should walk away and make those under contract work for them. They need Bledsoe or at least a future lottery-guaranteed ("reverse protected") pick coming back. They don't have to do anything.

Or think about it like this. If you're the clippers and you walk away from this deal, you keep your pick and DJ. DJ's heading to the US camp this summer, so he should develop. Now you bring in somebody like hollins, and he further helps DJ develop into a legit big man. you then trade bledsoe and butler for the wing player that you need, and I forgot to mention that they can re-sign matt barnes too. The clippers don't need this deal and much as boston does. heck, the clippers don't even know if KG can hold up for most of this up coming season.

[SHAQATTACK]

Fire Ainge

Hire Larry

[hpantazo]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

Celtics have the pieces that LAC wants under contract. So that's the leverage. We have the pieces they want; they are simply one path to possibly get an extra asset to speed up the rebuilding process. The Clippers are setting the tone for the next several years to try to keep Chris Paul and re-sign Blake.


And I think of it this way: If I'm LAC and I upgrade from VDN to Doc and Jordan to KG and get to keep Bledsoe only giving up a crappy late first, I'm ecstatic. Therefore it's a bad deal for the C's and they should walk away and make those under contract work for them. They need Bledsoe or at least a future lottery-guaranteed ("reverse protected") pick coming back. They don't have to do anything.

Or think about it like this. If you're the clippers and you walk away from this deal, you keep your pick and DJ. DJ's heading to the US camp this summer, so he should develop. Now you bring in somebody like hollins, and he further helps DJ develop into a legit big man. you then trade bledsoe and butler for the wing player that you need, and I forgot to mention that they can re-sign matt barnes too. The clippers don't need this deal and much as boston does. heck, the clippers don't even know if KG can hold up for most of this up coming season.

and you forgot to mention that they lose Chris Paul, who already said that if they get KG and Doc he stays

[CT32]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

Get out troll. The Celtics are not desperate to win. 17 Championships buys you time unlike endless Clipper failure doesn't.

Din't even troll once, you just can't handle simple logic. You want to be bias, but you're seeing more and more than I'm right in this situation. Ye, those 17 rings are really helping out your current team.

[Celtics Insider]

Screw them, don't give them the time of the day. They're trying to screw us over. Do the Pierce trade to DAL and let Pierce, KG, and Doc retire.

[j804]

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard about 6 minutes ago
Some sources insist both C's & Clips r posturing & that deal will eventually get done....either way, currently at an impasse again

[hpantazo]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

Get out troll. The Celtics are not desperate to win. 17 Championships buys you time unlike endless Clipper failure doesn't.

Din't even troll once, you just can't handle simple logic. You want to be bias, but you're seeing more and more than I'm right in this situation. Ye, those 17 rings are really helping out your current team.

they are banners, not rings, and they look very nice everytime I walk into the Garden

[CT32]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

This deal for the Clippers is about only one thing, keeping Chris Paul. They desperately need the deal because there are no other options out there for them to get to appease Paul.

For the celtics, they don't need to do anything, they have ALL the leverage. They are rebuilding anyway, so who cares if they lose Doc and KG. If no team wants to give up some value for them, then no big loss. If the Clippers fail to get KG and Doc and CP3 walks, they are screwed.

Again, your assumptions are completely wrong. Chris Paul is just as happy with hollins, shaw, or scott at the head coaching position. Every inside clipper source says cp3 was planning on signing this 5 year extension from the moment he got there.

[fairweatherfan]

I don't understand what you guys are angry about. The Clippers have all of the leverage here, why shouldn't they use it to full extent? if they DIDN'T use their leverage, then they'd be bad management. cp3 staying really has nothing to do with the clipps getting Doc or not, idk why you guys are assuming this. He'd be just as happy with shaw, scott, or hollins. And the clippers don't want to take on Lee's contract because they want to trade bledsoe to orlando for Afflalo (who has a BIGGER contract than lee, so enough of that "they're being cheap" BS). Yes, the clippers are "threatening" to walk away. If they do happen to walk away, they aren't gonna get screwed over, and Ainge isn't gonna "stick it to them" by pulling out of this deal. They're still going to be in great shape. I think the celtics, however, are at a point of no return. They need to make this trade or else doc goes into broadcasting, and without him coaching pierce and KG retire this off season.

you're just wrong.  ainge doesn't have to do anything.  who cares if rivers leaves.  get another coach. kg either plays or retires a celtic.  jordon and a crappy first rounder are pointless.  the clips have no leverage.  they are the ones that want something to win next year.

lol how am I wrong, everything I said is true. Who cares if rivers leaves? apparently Ainge and the celtics FO cares. the clippers have ALL of the leverage because they don't need this deal done as much as boston does.

Get out troll. The Celtics are not desperate to win. 17 Championships buys you time unlike endless Clipper failure doesn't.

Din't even troll once, you just can't handle simple logic. You want to be bias, but you're seeing more and more than I'm right in this situation. Ye, those 17 rings are really helping out your current team.

they are banners, not rings, and they look very nice everytime I walk into the Garden

Yup.  Did the Clippers decide whether or not to hang that division banner yet?  Big milestone for them.

Also nobody wants to be Bias, cuz he dead.