Mocks starting to pick Mcollum or Giannis as possible celtic choices

[KGs Knee]

I thought this draft was trash

I'd say it's a slight exaggeration to call this year's draft "trash", but it's not that great.

Personally, I'd like to see us trade our first as part of a package to net us a big man.  Examples of players I think possibly attainable would be Gortat or Okafor.

[CFAN38]

I wouldn't be opposed to trading our pick this year and trying to upgrade for 2014.

I thought this draft was trash

From what I can see the 2014 draft is going to be a super draft for the top 5picks and a good draft for the top 10. The 2013 draft looks like a weak draft for top 5, weak for top 10, but great from picks 10-35. A lot of parody through the whole first round.

[Birdman]

Hope they trade the pick..and dont want any international player that u have to wait awhile to get either b/c they usually dont pan out

[Kevin OConnor]

I wouldn't be opposed to trading our pick this year and trying to upgrade for 2014.

I thought this draft was trash

From what I can see the 2014 draft is going to be a super draft for the top 5picks and a good draft for the top 10. The 2013 draft looks like a weak draft for top 5, weak for top 10, but great from picks 10-35. A lot of parody through the whole first round.

It'll be impossible to trade into the 2014. Those picks are like gold.

[Boris Badenov]

I wouldn't be opposed to trading our pick this year and trying to upgrade for 2014.

I thought this draft was trash

From what I can see the 2014 draft is going to be a super draft for the top 5picks and a good draft for the top 10. The 2013 draft looks like a weak draft for top 5, weak for top 10, but great from picks 10-35. A lot of parody through the whole first round.

I think you mean "parity," though we may very well see plenty of unintentional parody too if Jay Bilas works the draft again.

[hwangjini_1]

I wouldn't be opposed to trading our pick this year and trying to upgrade for 2014.

I thought this draft was trash

From what I can see the 2014 draft is going to be a super draft for the top 5picks and a good draft for the top 10. The 2013 draft looks like a weak draft for top 5, weak for top 10, but great from picks 10-35. A lot of parody through the whole first round.

I think you mean "parity," though we may very well see plenty of unintentional parody too if Jay Bilas works the draft again.

then again, maybe he didnt. 

[winsomme]

I agree that this is a really good draft for where we are picking. Disappointed that Smart is not going to be in there because it means one less guy that could drop to us but you can't blame him for wanting one more year of college life..

still, if Danny works his magic, we could have a third recent, mid-first round impact pick on our roster to add to Avery and Sullinger...

I think the Avery pick shows that you really need to go BPA but I would love to see us get a legit wing player like GR3... somebody not undersized for the position.

[Boris Badenov]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

[Evantime34]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

Completely agree. I think there will be a lot of starters/rotation players drafted this year. The only guy I see being a superstar is Nerlens Noel.

Although the depth of this draft is hurt by Smart and McAdoo returning to school.

[Tr1boy]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

Completely agree. I think there will be a lot of starters/rotation players drafted this year. The only guy I see being a superstar is Nerlens Noel.

Although the depth of this draft is hurt by Smart and McAdoo returning to school.

Sorry but i disagree about Noel. I don't even think he will be a superstar or a likely one. He has pretty average iq and hands as good as melo. Any tough passes down low, don't expect him to handle it well.  No post moves either

He is no doubt quick and athletic as a cat, that will be an elite shot blocker and decent rebounder, but i can't see much more. Ceiling is Ibaka

My picks for future all star calibre players (and non are considered top 10 picks)
- Burke
- Mcollum
- Giannis
- Saric

[Tr1boy]

Like someone already said, its a weak top 10 draft (for the level of talent a top 10 player should possess) , and an excellent 10-to mid 2nd round pick. Mid 2nd round you could grab Muscala, Jackie Carmichael, Seth Curry etc. guys normally that are chosen early 2nd.

[Evantime34]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

Completely agree. I think there will be a lot of starters/rotation players drafted this year. The only guy I see being a superstar is Nerlens Noel.

Although the depth of this draft is hurt by Smart and McAdoo returning to school.

Sorry but i disagree about Noel. I don't even think he will be a superstar or a likely one. He has pretty average iq and hands as good as melo. Any tough passes down low, don't expect him to handle it well.  No post moves either

He is no doubt quick and athletic as a cat, that will be an elite shot blocker and decent rebounder, but i can't see much more. Ceiling is Ibaka

My picks for future all star calibre players (and non are considered top 10 picks)
- Burke
- Mcollum
- Giannis
- Saric

You don't have to be sorry, you are allowed to disagree, in fact I encourage it.

I like Isaiah Austin as a possible all star caliber as well.

I'm fine with a ceiling of Serge Ibaka, as long as it's Serge Ibaka's ceiling and not how good Ibaka is now. Ibaka is only 24 years old, he still is going to improve a lot before all is said and done.

[Boris Badenov]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

Completely agree. I think there will be a lot of starters/rotation players drafted this year. The only guy I see being a superstar is Nerlens Noel.

Although the depth of this draft is hurt by Smart and McAdoo returning to school.

Sorry but i disagree about Noel. I don't even think he will be a superstar or a likely one. He has pretty average iq and hands as good as melo. Any tough passes down low, don't expect him to handle it well.  No post moves either

He is no doubt quick and athletic as a cat, that will be an elite shot blocker and decent rebounder, but i can't see much more. Ceiling is Ibaka

My picks for future all star calibre players (and non are considered top 10 picks)
- Burke
- Mcollum
- Giannis
- Saric

Burke has moved into the top 10 in both Draftexpress (which I think is the best mock) and nbadraft.net, after the tournament. Before the tournament he was in the 15 range - I was hoping we'd get him.

I like that list too, though. Of course, last year I was dying for us to draft Royce White.

[Mencius]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

Completely agree. I think there will be a lot of starters/rotation players drafted this year. The only guy I see being a superstar is Nerlens Noel.

Although the depth of this draft is hurt by Smart and McAdoo returning to school.

Sorry but i disagree about Noel. I don't even think he will be a superstar or a likely one. He has pretty average iq and hands as good as melo. Any tough passes down low, don't expect him to handle it well.  No post moves either

He is no doubt quick and athletic as a cat, that will be an elite shot blocker and decent rebounder, but i can't see much more. Ceiling is Ibaka

My picks for future all star calibre players (and non are considered top 10 picks)
- Burke
- Mcollum
- Giannis
- Saric

I wish I watched enough college or international ball to give an informed opinion, but alas, I only watched a couple of NCAA games, and only youtube clips of international guys.  That said, my almost utterly uninformed opinion is that Burke will go top 10, Saric reminds me a little of Gallo, but on the clips I saw, he was strictly a jump shooter who looked like he'd have a really hard time beating anyone off the dribble, and looked to not have lateral quickness (all based on a youtube vid or two, lol).  The vids I saw of Giannis, it looked like he was playing exclusively against all short Greek dudes.  I'm taking him with a grain of salt for now.  Oh, and Noel, to me, looked like a better shot blocking version of Walter.  Not at all sold on him being a future star.  I'm a bit intrigued by Mitch McGary (where we're picking).  Looks like he's got great feel for the game.  Him having a sub-par national championship game could be a blessing for somebody if he falls on account of it.  Mildly interested in Steven Adams, too, but such limited video to really say.

I love draft time.  Really fun to speculate about which new toys we might get.

[nickagneta]

My impression is that in many years the so-called "weak drafts" end up becoming stronger than people originally anticipated.

Any player who's deciding between this year and next has a huge incentive to enter this year because waiting a year could really hurt their position in a deeper draft.

I don't think this affects things much in the top 5 - those guys will come out anyway. But in the mid-first round, where guys could go top-15 this year but would be 10 slots lower next year, the incentive is huge.

And of course this re-positioning reduces the difference in quality between the drafts.

I also think that casual evaluations of draft quality tend to focus on talent at the top, rather than overall depth. For where we draft, depth is more important than the number of true franchise guys.

Completely agree. I think there will be a lot of starters/rotation players drafted this year. The only guy I see being a superstar is Nerlens Noel.

Although the depth of this draft is hurt by Smart and McAdoo returning to school.

Sorry but i disagree about Noel. I don't even think he will be a superstar or a likely one. He has pretty average iq and hands as good as melo. Any tough passes down low, don't expect him to handle it well.  No post moves either

He is no doubt quick and athletic as a cat, that will be an elite shot blocker and decent rebounder, but i can't see much more. Ceiling is Ibaka

My picks for future all star calibre players (and non are considered top 10 picks)
- Burke
- Mcollum
- Giannis
- Saric

I think Nerlens has a Marcus Camby-type career in him. Whether you think Camby was a superstar or not(he wasn't) he still was a superstar defensive player and superstar rebounder and around a long time because of those attributes. Having Nerlens as the defensive anchor of a team would benefit any franchise for a decade. He might not be a superstar but he will be to that team's fan base, that is for sure. They are gonna love the kid.