Darko is a Beast!

[flyofchange]

[A GOOD REBOUNDER?? hes never averaged over 6.1 rebounds combining off and def rebounds!!

Really? Becase, you know, we usually don't combine offensive and defensive rebounds when we talk about rebounding... 

geee, your a riot guy. Got anything else to add?

[GreenFaith1819]

I'm feeling REALLY good about Darko.

Besides my earlier post in this thread, the man turned down millions overseas to come here.

He must mean business...he must see an opportunity, here.

You don't turn down that much money unless you're on a mission.

I think this man FINALLY has some weapons around him, now.....he MAY not be 86 Bill Walton, but I'm expecting a very positive impact here for Darko.

[flyofchange]

This better be for the vet min. Otherwise its just stupid.

Seems people are living in never-neverland with this guy.

Doesnt matter what team or situatiuon this guy is in, hes not gonna play better than his usual low level.

Hes a bum and always will be one.

Stop hoping for some miracle like some people did with hollins last season, these things dont happen, if your been a scrub your entire career your gonna stay a scrub, I cant believe people think otherwise.

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You're entitled to your opinion, but don't label and attack the opinions of those who feel differently. - RH

[kozlodoev]

[A GOOD REBOUNDER?? hes never averaged over 6.1 rebounds combining off and def rebounds!!

Really? Becase, you know, we usually don't combine offensive and defensive rebounds when we talk about rebounding... 

geee, your a riot guy. Got anything else to add?

Sure - in your particular example (that is, the season when Milicic averaged 6.1 rebounds, while "playing more than 20 minutes"), he pulled 10.6 rebounds per 40 minutes, which puts him pretty much exactly where Kevin Garnett's was last season.

[RyNye]

I can't believe anybody thinks this guy will be better than Stiemsma. You do realize that Stiemsma, as a backup center, put up better numbers last season than Darko EVER DID IN HIS CAREER?!

The guy is the definition of a bum. As long as he is delegated to 3rd/4th string emergency big man who is only used to physically take up space on the court, then he can't hurt us.

Hopefully, he can at least produce like he did in Orlando and his second year in Memphis (his best seasons, by the numbers). Even then, at his best, he is still just a backup.

Sure - in your particular example (that is, the season when Milicic averaged 6.1 rebounds, while "playing more than 20 minutes"), his rebounding per 40 minutes was 10.5, which puts him pretty much exactly as Kevin Garnett's from last season.

That's false. First of all, it's per 48 minutes, not 40, because that's the length of a basketball game. KG last season had 12.7 rebounds per 48 minutes. Darko had 13 per 48 his rookie year, but in only 159 minutes of court time, so that's a small sample size and can't be trusted. For the rest of his career, he has averaged 11, and has never got higher than 12.3. For the record, the average center pulls down 12.7 per 48 minutes.

So basically, in his prime Darko was still a worse rebounder than KG at the tail end of his career. Next time, don't make up numbers.

[flyofchange]

[A GOOD REBOUNDER?? hes never averaged over 6.1 rebounds combining off and def rebounds!!

Really? Becase, you know, we usually don't combine offensive and defensive rebounds when we talk about rebounding... 

geee, your a riot guy. Got anything else to add?

Sure - in your particular example (that is, the season when Milicic averaged 6.1 rebounds, while "playing more than 20 minutes"), he pulled 10.6 rebounds per 40 minutes, which puts him pretty much exactly where Kevin Garnett's was last season.

eeeh, yeah sure its fun to play around with stats.
You cant just assume that if a player is given double the minutes hes gonna double his production.

Do you really believe that darko is a better rebounder than KG?

I think not so whats your point?

[flyofchange]

I can't believe anybody thinks this guy will be better than Stiemsma. You do realize that Stiemsma, as a backup center, put up better numbers last season than Darko EVER DID IN HIS CAREER?!

The guy is the definition of a bum. As long as he is delegated to 3rd/4th string emergency big man who is only used to physically take up space on the court, then he can't hurt us.

Hopefully, he can at least produce like he did in Orlando and his second year in Memphis (his best seasons, by the numbers). Even then, at his best, he is still just a backup.

Sure - in your particular example (that is, the season when Milicic averaged 6.1 rebounds, while "playing more than 20 minutes"), his rebounding per 40 minutes was 10.5, which puts him pretty much exactly as Kevin Garnett's from last season.

That's false. First of all, it's per 48 minutes, not 40, because that's the length of a basketball game. KG last season had 12.7 rebounds per 48 minutes. Darko had 13 per 48 his rookie year, but in only 159 minutes of court time, so that's a small sample size and can't be trusted. For the rest of his career, he has averaged 11, and has never got higher than 12.3. For the record, the average center pulls down 12.7 per 48 minutes.

So basically, in his prime Darko was still a worse rebounder than KG at the tail end of his career. Next time, don't make up numbers.

TP

why are people trying to skew numbers so that darko bum milicic looks better I will never understand.

[GreenFaith1819]

This better be for the vet min. Otherwise its just stupid.

Seems people are living in never-neverland with this guy.

Doesnt matter what team or situatiuon this guy is in, hes not gonna play better than his usual low level.

Hes a bum and always will be one.

Stop hoping for some miracle like some people did with hollins last season, these things dont happen, if your been a scrub your entire career your gonna stay a scrub, I cant believe people think otherwise.

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You're entitled to your opinion, but don't label and attack the opinions of those who feel differently. - RH

flyofchange - so you don't think this is a win-win for BOS?

Darko IS here on the Vet Min, I believe.

I guess you can count me as one of those guys in "Never-Never Land" lol, about Darko.



J/K

The vast majority of Bigs to play here in BOS over the years have looked GOOD, at the very least, and helped the team:

1. JO - (Yes - when he was healthy).

2. Shaq - BOS looked unbeatable when he manned Center back in 10-11.

3. Perk - Next to KG he played well, despite his limitations.

4. Sheed - Granted, Sheed appeared to mail it in during the regular season, but he was key for us in the playoffs in 09-10.

5. Hollins - Yes, even with his limitations, he played well in spot minutes.

6. PJ Brown - I hated to see him retire. Loved his play.

7. Stiem - Hated to see him go, too. He played well in BOS.

I just don't think that Darko will come here and wash out. I'm optimistic about him.

[flyofchange]

This better be for the vet min. Otherwise its just stupid.

Seems people are living in never-neverland with this guy.

Doesnt matter what team or situatiuon this guy is in, hes not gonna play better than his usual low level.

Hes a bum and always will be one.

Stop hoping for some miracle like some people did with hollins last season, these things dont happen, if your been a scrub your entire career your gonna stay a scrub, I cant believe people think otherwise.

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You're entitled to your opinion, but don't label and attack the opinions of those who feel differently. - RH

flyofchange - so you don't think this is a win-win for BOS?

Darko IS here on the Vet Min, I believe.

I guess you can count me as one of those guys in "Never-Never Land" lol, about Darko.



J/K

The vast majority of Bigs to play here in BOS over the years have looked GOOD, at the very least, and helped the team:

1. JO - (Yes - when he was healthy).

2. Shaq - BOS looked unbeatable when he manned Center back in 10-11.

3. Perk - Next to KG he played well, despite his limitations.

4. Sheed - Granted, Sheed appeared to mail it in during the regular season, but he was key for us in the playoffs in 09-10.

5. Hollins - Yes, even with his limitations, he played well in spot minutes.

6. PJ Brown - I hated to see him retire. Loved his play.

7. Stiem - Hated to see him go, too. He played well in BOS.

I just don't think that Darko will come here and wash out. I'm optimistic about him.

Im happy for you if you can be optomistic about this guy.

All those players you listed have been at some point alot better or better than darko.

And believing that its for the vet min is not knowing is it?

[Texstyles]

The thing I don't get on this Blog is people complain when  the Celtics trade Perkins for Green, it was the biggest mistake on the planet and they destroyed the team.

But then when they bring in Darko who has somewhat similar  stats and game to Perkins,it is a waste of a roster spot.

KG (one of the best Def. player at his position ever)makes life easier for whoever is sitting next to him. I dont see why that changes here.

Someone here stated he is starting by christmas.  I hope you are right.  Not that I think Darko is better then Bass but I fear if KG plays Center all year he will be worn down at the end.

[GreenFaith1819]

This better be for the vet min. Otherwise its just stupid.

Seems people are living in never-neverland with this guy.

Doesnt matter what team or situatiuon this guy is in, hes not gonna play better than his usual low level.

Hes a bum and always will be one.

Stop hoping for some miracle like some people did with hollins last season, these things dont happen, if your been a scrub your entire career your gonna stay a scrub, I cant believe people think otherwise.

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You're entitled to your opinion, but don't label and attack the opinions of those who feel differently. - RH

flyofchange - so you don't think this is a win-win for BOS?

Darko IS here on the Vet Min, I believe.

I guess you can count me as one of those guys in "Never-Never Land" lol, about Darko.



J/K

The vast majority of Bigs to play here in BOS over the years have looked GOOD, at the very least, and helped the team:

1. JO - (Yes - when he was healthy).

2. Shaq - BOS looked unbeatable when he manned Center back in 10-11.

3. Perk - Next to KG he played well, despite his limitations.

4. Sheed - Granted, Sheed appeared to mail it in during the regular season, but he was key for us in the playoffs in 09-10.

5. Hollins - Yes, even with his limitations, he played well in spot minutes.

6. PJ Brown - I hated to see him retire. Loved his play.

7. Stiem - Hated to see him go, too. He played well in BOS.

I just don't think that Darko will come here and wash out. I'm optimistic about him.

Im happy for you if you can be optomistic about this guy.

All those players you listed have been at some point alot better or better than darko.

And believing that its for the vet min is not knowing is it?

Vet Min for Darko:

Darko Milicic and the Boston Celtics seems like … an odd fit. But, according to CSN New England, it's very real.
 
The veteran big man, waived by the Minnesota Timberwolves in July, will sign a one-year deal with the Celtics next week for the veteran's minimum, according to CSN.
 
His agent, Marc Cornstein, later confirmed the agreement to ESPN.com.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-09-20/darko-milicic-celtics-2003-nba-draft-pistons-knicks-nicolas-batum-blazers

[kozlodoev]

That's false. First of all, it's per 48 minutes, not 40, because that's the length of a basketball game.

Which parts of it is false exactly? And you can convert it to whatever you want -- to rebounds per minute, or per 5 minutes, or per 33 minutes and a half -- it will still be the same number. I converted it to per40, because that was the easiest way to compare to HoopData's number for KG.

By the way, there are other numbers that prominently display how poor of a rebounder Milicic really is, but the line of argument chosen in that post was particularly poor. Leon Powe never averaged more than 4.9 rebounds for us (in 17.5 minutes), and people considered him a good rebounder.

[flyofchange]

This better be for the vet min. Otherwise its just stupid.

Seems people are living in never-neverland with this guy.

Doesnt matter what team or situatiuon this guy is in, hes not gonna play better than his usual low level.

Hes a bum and always will be one.

Stop hoping for some miracle like some people did with hollins last season, these things dont happen, if your been a scrub your entire career your gonna stay a scrub, I cant believe people think otherwise.

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You're entitled to your opinion, but don't label and attack the opinions of those who feel differently. - RH

flyofchange - so you don't think this is a win-win for BOS?

Darko IS here on the Vet Min, I believe.

I guess you can count me as one of those guys in "Never-Never Land" lol, about Darko.



J/K

The vast majority of Bigs to play here in BOS over the years have looked GOOD, at the very least, and helped the team:

1. JO - (Yes - when he was healthy).

2. Shaq - BOS looked unbeatable when he manned Center back in 10-11.

3. Perk - Next to KG he played well, despite his limitations.

4. Sheed - Granted, Sheed appeared to mail it in during the regular season, but he was key for us in the playoffs in 09-10.

5. Hollins - Yes, even with his limitations, he played well in spot minutes.

6. PJ Brown - I hated to see him retire. Loved his play.

7. Stiem - Hated to see him go, too. He played well in BOS.

I just don't think that Darko will come here and wash out. I'm optimistic about him.

Im happy for you if you can be optomistic about this guy.

All those players you listed have been at some point alot better or better than darko.

And believing that its for the vet min is not knowing is it?

Vet Min for Darko:

Darko Milicic and the Boston Celtics seems like … an odd fit. But, according to CSN New England, it's very real.
 
The veteran big man, waived by the Minnesota Timberwolves in July, will sign a one-year deal with the Celtics next week for the veteran's minimum, according to CSN.
 
His agent, Marc Cornstein, later confirmed the agreement to ESPN.com.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-09-20/darko-milicic-celtics-2003-nba-draft-pistons-knicks-nicolas-batum-blazers

Ok, now i feel alittle better as long as he doesnt see the floor, after all we need someone to carry KGs bags and hand people towels and gatorade on the bench.

If hes starting by christmas hell has probably frozen over.

[Celtics18]

Wow, you people are really something.....
I hope that you are being sarcastic cause
we just signed a 7 footer who shot .454 from the field and .432 from the line, averaged 3.3 reb 4.6 points and 0.9 blocks in 16 minutes per game
and you guys are acting like we signed prime kareem abdul-jabbar.

This guy is a flat out bum and I hope he never sees the floor.

cant belive we have money to sign this sorry scrub and not stiemboat who actually has potential to get better unlike this guy whos hit his peak even though it was more like a valley than a mountain.

Darko Milicic is three months older than Greg Stiemsma.  I would say that he has just as much potential to get better as the SteamBoat.  Actually, I would say he has more potential.  I like Steamer, but Darko unquestionably has much better physical tools.

I happen to think Boston will be a great fit for Darko.  I believe that he'll be more highly motivated than he's ever been in his career, and that he'll be a productive member of the Celtics.

Ah, I love living in la la land.

[kozlodoev]

But then when they bring in Darko who has somewhat similar  stats and game to Perkins,it is a waste of a roster spot

Except for all that toughness and defensive leadership gig. I wasn't down with the OKC trade when it happened, but Darko will never be confused for Kendrick Perkins before the injuries.