I want so clarity from Kane here. You want these guys to compare their teams to teams from 2008-09. But why? Simply because they have a player from each team on their current teams?
B/c it's the only time they matched uo and regardless of stats I saw Howard impact that series more. That series might have been a sweep if not for that game 2 three. And I see alot of similarities in Dallas and Cleveland. Dwight beat Lebron and Cleveland then and I thought it was reasonable Dwight could potentially beat Lebron and Dallas here.
Again I saw similarities in the personnel and I clearly wasn't the only one since many others on here have brought up the comparison. I wanted to see what these two thought as a result and Roy made some very good points that definitely affected my outlook on the series. Unlike some I can be persuaded by good strategy. I don't pretend to know everything and I forget stuff like Brown's double teaming of Dwight.
I try to be objective, but everyone has assumptions before each series if how it will turn out and why. I wanted to give each GM a chance to either disprove or prove my assumptions for the series outcome. I don't want to be lazy and say, "well I already felt this is who is going to win, so I am not really going to read the thread and jut go based off my previous assumptions." That's not cool to all the GMs who pout forth a ton of time throughout the month on this.
And who do you feel was the better team in 2008-09?
Better overall? I thought Cleveland was, but it was close. I thought Orlando could win though if they played great and caught some breaks. Orlando utilized their mismatches and game plan to perfection in that series. If not for a Courtney Lee missed layup in game 2 and Hoawrd missed free throw in game 4 then Orlando is up 3-1 in the Finals.
Roy's team might be better than that Cleveland team and jgod's team worse than that Orlando team but that could still mean that you feel jgod has a better team because you thought that Orlando team heads and shoulders better than that Cleveland team.
No. I liked Cleveland overall. They looked unbeatable that year and had just swept Detroit and Atlanta.
I honestly don't think either team compares to those teams. The surrounding talent is so much different. Portland has a strong starting five but Dallas has great depth. The opposite was true back then
That's cool. I see similarities. Especially front the Dallas perspective. I also see Joe Johnson and HEdo playing the same role with Dwight. I wanted to see more argument about Milsap compare to Lewis and Rubio compared to Nelson. I thought the right argument and strategy could have made a difference for myself. Seeing as how a few other brought up the comparison I thought it was a worthwhile question.
Also, the respective superstars are different players than they were. Portland's superduperstar is reliant upon others to make parts of his game work(mostly offense) and Dallas' superduperstar doesn't. Also, Portland's star has a huge, gigantic major flaw in his game. Dallas' doesn't. Dallas' superstar makes all his team mates better on both ends of the floor. Portland's superstar only makes his team mates better on the defensive end of the floor. I'm not these things were all true back then.
This the kind of stuff I would definitely like to see your thoughts on. It could make a big deal for how people might vote.
Ultimately my goal is to help improve the discussion of the thread. I would like to see more back and forth with less hyperbole as others have stated. I think if you go into further detail about why you feel the way you do above it makes things more interesting.