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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #135 on: August 16, 2012, 09:45:23 PM »

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Geesh Kane, I was just asking for some clarification because I didnt see the similarities in the teams, which I stated. Besides being lazy, unobjective, and spouting hyperbole I must not be too bright either to not see the clear similarities between the four teams in question. Sorry I bothered to ask for clarification. It wont happen again.

Unobjective and hyperbole-spouting:  this is what makes nick a great Co-GM.
Wanna bet Kane and I end up coGms one day.....LOL

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2012, 09:45:38 PM »

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Haha Roy's about to start kissing babies any second now. Edgar will be kissing dogs.

Not because Edgar doesn't like babies. He just really likes dogs. They're mans best friend.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2012, 09:51:04 PM »

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Haha Roy's about to start kissing babies any second now. Edgar will be kissing dogs.

Not because Edgar doesn't like babies. He just really likes dogs. They're mans best friend.

Put them together, and you get dog babies. 



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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2012, 09:51:17 PM »

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Will Dwight win the cookie challenge?

If so, text "Portland" to CB Draft voting
Of not, text "Trailblazers" to CB Draft voting


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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2012, 09:55:29 PM »

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Will Dwight win the cookie challenge?

If so, text "Portland" to CB Draft voting
Of not, text "Trailblazers" to CB Draft voting


*carrier rates may apply if you vote Dallas



I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER... AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!

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Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2012, 09:55:50 PM »

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Votes in - bills and mavs

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2012, 09:56:58 PM »

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Votes in - bills and mavs

Sweet!  We're facing the Bills?  Guaranteed win!

Lebron is going to love dunking on Don Beebe.

;)


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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2012, 09:59:51 PM »

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Votes in - bills and mavs

Sweet!  We're facing the Bills?  Guaranteed win!

Lebron is going to love dunking on Don Beebe.

;)

Misspelling wasn't a mistake.

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #143 on: August 16, 2012, 10:04:31 PM »

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I don't think it's outside the realm of thought to question if a kid going into his second year, with a completely different role, will be able to bump his scoring by more that 5-7 more points while maintaining the same efficiency.  To ask that of Irving without considering progression for Rubio, despite what he accomplished, is a lot.

Well asking Roy to help make your case for Rubio is a lot too. Of course he's got Irving ahead of Rubio. He had him in the pick 2 draft, he went out and got him here. He's obviously a big fan.

I think Jgod, you're going about your arguments a bit wrongly here. You're allowing Roy's view of your players to frame the argument. Where are the quotes from Kevin Love or the millions (and millions) of twolves bloggers out there who lamented the fact that the wolves were a probable playoff team with Rubio, and we're terrible without him?

In simple logical sentences:

1) Rubio makes all his players better with his passing, which should only improve after a full season, full training camp with his team, and another full season where he's helped get them to the conference finals.

2) Rubio is a bad one on one defender but a very good team defender. Numbers back this up (I'm assuming because it's what everyone said during the regular season).

3) Dwight Howard makes all his teammates better defensively, more than anyone else in the league.

4) Dwight Howard isn't a skillful offensive player, but is a force when put in the right positions to succeed, which Rubio and Joe Johnson are more than capable of doing.

So, Rubio should help make Dwight Howard a much more formidable offensive player, while Dwight should be able to cover for a lot of Rubios weaknesses defensively. These two things should also extend to Joe Johnson, Wilson Chandler, and Paul Millsap.

It's the exact same argument Roy is making about Lebron. And no obscure synergy stats needed!

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #144 on: August 16, 2012, 10:30:44 PM »

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IP is scared.


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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #145 on: August 16, 2012, 10:36:19 PM »

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IP is scared.

Resigned is a better word. I'm gonna have one post maybe two in the morning and a few after 10 or 11 when the wife is asleep. And that's IF I win today which isn't a surety.

And I've also got approximately 50 more posts to make against your team for installing 'Ru Paul' in the vernacular. I should've done more Lebron James image searches, but my phone doesn't allow me to look up filthy pictures. It's a good Christian phone that doesn't truck with such smut.

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Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #146 on: August 16, 2012, 10:37:20 PM »

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if Roy promises me a CB Draft next year he gets my vote :P

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #147 on: August 16, 2012, 10:42:43 PM »

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I don't think it's outside the realm of thought to question if a kid going into his second year, with a completely different role, will be able to bump his scoring by more that 5-7 more points while maintaining the same efficiency.  To ask that of Irving without considering progression for Rubio, despite what he accomplished, is a lot.

Well asking Roy to help make your case for Rubio is a lot too. Of course he's got Irvving ahead of Rubio. He had him in the pick 2 draft, he went out got him.
Stop right there.

Cleveland was Roy and my original Pick 2 team and we kept AV and Irving and never let Irving go. We only traded AV because he got hurt and could gwt Bynum. We both thought extremely highly of Irving and never even thought of trading him

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #148 on: August 16, 2012, 10:47:03 PM »

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I don't think it's outside the realm of thought to question if a kid going into his second year, with a completely different role, will be able to bump his scoring by more that 5-7 more points while maintaining the same efficiency.  To ask that of Irving without considering progression for Rubio, despite what he accomplished, is a lot.

Well asking Roy to help make your case for Rubio is a lot too. Of course he's got Irvving ahead of Rubio. He had him in the pick 2 draft, he went out got him.
Stop right there.

Cleveland was Roy and my original Pick 2 team and we kept AV and Irving and never let Irving go. We only traded AV because he got hurt and could gwt Bynum. We both thought extremely highly of Irving and never even thought of trading him

No no I meant he went out and got him this draft.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: CB Draft Western Finals: (1) Mavericks vs. (2) Blazers
« Reply #149 on: August 16, 2012, 10:50:13 PM »

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I don't think it's outside the realm of thought to question if a kid going into his second year, with a completely different role, will be able to bump his scoring by more that 5-7 more points while maintaining the same efficiency.  To ask that of Irving without considering progression for Rubio, despite what he accomplished, is a lot.

Well asking Roy to help make your case for Rubio is a lot too. Of course he's got Irving ahead of Rubio. He had him in the pick 2 draft, he went out and got him here. He's obviously a big fan.

I think Jgod, you're going about your arguments a bit wrongly here. You're allowing Roy's view of your players to frame the argument. Where are the quotes from Kevin Love or the millions (and millions) of twolves bloggers out there who lamented the fact that the wolves were a probable playoff team with Rubio, and we're terrible without him?

In simple logical sentences:

1) Rubio makes all his players better with his passing, which should only improve after a full season, full training camp with his team, and another full season where he's helped get them to the conference finals.

2) Rubio is a bad one on one defender but a very good team defender. Numbers back this up (I'm assuming because it's what everyone said during the regular season).

3) Dwight Howard makes all his teammates better defensively, more than anyone else in the league.

4) Dwight Howard isn't a skillful offensive player, but is a force when put in the right positions to succeed, which Rubio and Joe Johnson are more than capable of doing.

So, Rubio should help make Dwight Howard a much more formidable offensive player, while Dwight should be able to cover for a lot of Rubios weaknesses defensively. These two things should also extend to Joe Johnson, Wilson Chandler, and Paul Millsap.

It's the exact same argument Roy is making about Lebron. And no obscure synergy stats needed!

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