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Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #105 on: August 13, 2012, 06:18:23 PM »

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PG = Westbrook vs Steph Curry = advantage Boston
SG = Rip vs JR Smith = advantage Washington
SF = Artest vs G-Wallace = advantage Washington
PF = B.Griffin vs Gortat = advantage Boston
C  = M.Gasol vs P.Gasol = advantage Washington

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PG = DJ Augustin vs Lou Williams = advantage Washington
SG = G.Green vs C.Billups = advantage Washington
SF = S.Jackson vs M.Beasley/Novak = neutral
PF = T.Robinson vs DeJuan Blair = neutral
C  = A.Gray vs S.Hawes = advantage Washington

Coach = Rudy T vs Mike Brown = advantage Washington

Mike Brown has a better winning percentage than Rudy. :)

I think JR does more harm then good. He shoots you into games and shoots you out of them just as much.

PG = Westbrook vs Steph Curry = advantage Boston
SG = Rip vs JR Smith = neutral
SF = Artest vs G-Wallace = neutral
PF = B.Griffin vs Gortat = advantage Boston
C  = M.Gasol vs P.Gasol = advantage Washington - maybe by a little

Bench
PG = DJ Augustin vs Lou Williams = neutral. Not enough is being said about the minutes that Augustine is playing and I like Williams shooting a lot an ball hogging.
SG = G.Green vs C.Billups = neutral. Again look at the minutes. It's like 10. Billups can't guard anyone either. Maybe he scores a little on green but he won't get back on green and he can t chase rip around screens.
SF = S.Jackson vs M.Beasley/Novak = Advatage Boston. Beasley is an overall negative. And please play Novak.
PF = Griffin/T.Robinson vs DeJuan Blair = Advantage Boston. T Rob won't play more then 4 mpg
C  = Marc Gasol/A.Gray vs S.Hawes = Advantage Boston. Gray plays like 6 minutes.


Again I think it is clear to see how many minutes my Big three are playing in relation to his other guys.

Also this series is primarily played in Boston.


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Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2012, 06:19:04 PM »

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Novak will play PF when Griffin is not playing, we have now put Blair to play 10 minutes at PF.
Why not play Michael Beasley at PF? He is a better PF than either Novak or Blair.

Blair is better than Beasley, 9.5 pts 5.5 rebs in 20 minutes

Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2012, 06:22:29 PM »

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Westbtook (32)\ Augustine (16)
Hamilton (29) \ Jackson (11) Westbrook ( 8 )
Artest (20) \ Jackson (17) \ Green (11)
Griffin (38) \ Artest (6) \ Robinson or Erden (4)
Gasol (38) \ Gray (7) \ Erden (3)
I think Artest should play a lot more minutes at SF. I would sync his playing time with Gerald Wallace's court time (32 minutes).

Maybe use Stephen Jackson as your backup power forward against Steve Novak.

I would also reduce DJ Augustin's playing time. I think you are better off staying big on the perimeter rather than trying to go small to matchup with Washington's small backcourts.

I think I referenced this a little on the first page.

Augustine comes in with Westbrook to maximize the advantage of having a smaller 2 guard on Russell. I don't want Rip or Jack defending Lou Williams. I don't like that matchup. I don't think Curry and Williams can play well together. Neither can guard Russell and I want  Russell making either of them working on both ends of the court.

I am going to Griffin all day that Novak is in at PF.

I don't think DJ Augustin can defend Lou Will, Steph Curry or Billups any better than Rip Hamilton can. I would go with Rip's size and length ... more importantly, his team defense + ability to create a mismatch on the other end.

I don't think Washington will ever leave Novak on Blake Griffin.

Then who guards Griffin when Novak is at PF? I don't think Washington really has anyone that can.

As for Augustine. You are right. Boston will adjust the minutes. Didn't realize how dramatic Hamilton's Rating defensively was to DJs. I also like running Curry or Williams off screens.

Westbtook (38)\ Augustine (10)
Hamilton (31) \ Jackson (15) Westbrook (2)
Artest (24) \ Jackson (13) \ Green (11)
Griffin (38) \ Artest (6) \ Robinson or Erden (4)
Gasol (38) \ Gray (7) \ Erden (3)


Novak will play PF when Griffin is not playing, we have now put Blair to play 10 minutes at PF.

So novak plays like ten minutes? It really doesn't matter. I am fine with playing pick and roll and demanding a switch with Novaks man.

Pierce and Rondo do this to PGs all the time. I will utilize it with Russell an Novaks man. Russell is very good at hitting the 18 footer if they go underneath on the switch. I will attack Novak. Make sure of that.

Have fun doing that ;D

Lol Ok...

I feel like a secret to this might just be to say as little as possible and thus avoid any kind of critique.

No one has many questions for Washington? 



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Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #108 on: August 13, 2012, 06:22:52 PM »

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Starters
PG = Westbrook vs Steph Curry = advantage Boston
SG = Rip vs JR Smith = advantage Washington
SF = Artest vs G-Wallace = advantage Washington
PF = B.Griffin vs Gortat = advantage Boston
C  = M.Gasol vs P.Gasol = advantage Washington

Bench
PG = DJ Augustin vs Lou Williams = advantage Washington
SG = G.Green vs C.Billups = advantage Washington
SF = S.Jackson vs M.Beasley/Novak = neutral
PF = T.Robinson vs DeJuan Blair = neutral
C  = A.Gray vs S.Hawes = advantage Washington

Coach = Rudy T vs Mike Brown = advantage Washington

Mike Brown has a better winning percentage than Rudy. :)

I think JR does more harm then good. He shoots you into games and shoots you out of them just as much.

PG = Westbrook vs Steph Curry = advantage Boston
SG = Rip vs JR Smith = neutral
SF = Artest vs G-Wallace = neutral
PF = B.Griffin vs Gortat = advantage Boston
C  = M.Gasol vs P.Gasol = advantage Washington - maybe by a little

Bench
PG = DJ Augustin vs Lou Williams = neutral. Not enough is being said about the minutes that Augustine is playing and I like Williams shooting a lot an ball hogging.
SG = G.Green vs C.Billups = neutral. Again look at the minutes. It's like 10. Billups can't guard anyone either. Maybe he scores a little on green but he won't get back on green and he can t chase rip around screens.
SF = S.Jackson vs M.Beasley/Novak = Advatage Boston. Beasley is an overall negative. And please play Novak.
PF = Griffin/T.Robinson vs DeJuan Blair = Advantage Boston. T Rob won't play more then 4 mpg
C  = Marc Gasol/A.Gray vs S.Hawes = Advantage Boston. Gray plays like 6 minutes.


Again I think it is clear to see how many minutes my Big three are playing in relation to his other guys.

Also this series is primarily played in Boston.

Well if you want to put it that way

westbrook/augustin vs curry/williams=advantage wizards
rip/gerald green vs smith/billups= neutral
artest/jackson vs wallace/beasley= advantage wizards
griffin/robinson vs gortat/blair= advantage boston
marc/gray vs pau/hawes = advantage wizards

Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #109 on: August 13, 2012, 06:30:00 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #110 on: August 13, 2012, 06:33:19 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Then shouldnt it be the same with Griffin and Marc?

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« Reply #111 on: August 13, 2012, 06:34:00 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Gortat will defend Marc

Yes, but Marc will defend Pau on the other end.

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« Reply #112 on: August 13, 2012, 06:35:55 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Gortat will defend Marc

Yes, but Marc will defend Pau on the other end.

Shouldnt it be the same though with Marc and Griffin? Also Wallace has the advantage over Ron

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« Reply #113 on: August 13, 2012, 06:36:28 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Exactly.

And you have to anticipate Marc being better next year.

Also Westbrook and Griffin are both already better the Pau and getting better.

Too much top tier talent in Boston, capable of playing entire games if need be, and at home.

When you have the two best players in the series and your third best player plays at the level of your opposition's best player then you don't lose with HCA.


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Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #114 on: August 13, 2012, 06:42:04 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Exactly.

And you have to anticipate Marc being better next year.

Also Westbrook and Griffin are both already better the Pau and getting better.

Too much top tier talent in Boston, capable of playing entire games if need be, and at home.

When you have the two best players in the series and your third best player plays at the level of your opposition's best player then you don't lose with HCA.

Marc cant play the whole game and neither can Griffin if anything Westbrook. The way i see it is this year Spurs vs the Clippers and we know who won that

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« Reply #115 on: August 13, 2012, 06:44:20 PM »

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At the end of the day he has to rely on his BIG 3 and my depth makes me not have to rely on my main player also when Westbrook has a bad game, Marc and Griffin wont carry the load

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« Reply #116 on: August 13, 2012, 06:49:51 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Gortat will defend Marc

Yes, but Marc will defend Pau on the other end.

Shouldnt it be the same though with Marc and Griffin? Also Wallace has the advantage over Ron

Yes with Pau defending Blake Griffin and Gortat defending Marc Gasol.

I think Marc has an advantage over Gortat due to his jump-shooting and passing ability.

Blake Griffin is too quick and explosive for Pau Gasol. Gasol will have a mix of good and bad sequences against Griffin. Ones where he uses his length well to force low percentage shots but also others where he gets blown by and concedes high percentage shots. From the look of their matchups last season, on the whole, it looked like Blake Griffin was fairly effective scoring against Pau.

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« Reply #117 on: August 13, 2012, 06:57:38 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Exactly.

And you have to anticipate Marc being better next year.

Also Westbrook and Griffin are both already better the Pau and getting better.

Too much top tier talent in Boston, capable of playing entire games if need be, and at home.

When you have the two best players in the series and your third best player plays at the level of your opposition's best player then you don't lose with HCA.

Marc cant play the whole game and neither can Griffin if anything Westbrook. The way i see it is this year Spurs vs the Clippers and we know who won that

You don't have anything like Ginobli and Parker...


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Re: 2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup
« Reply #118 on: August 13, 2012, 07:01:15 PM »

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Final Statement:
I feel like our bigs cancel out their bigs then it comes down to:
westbrook vs curry
rip vs j.r. smith
artest vs wallace

their depth vs our depth

Floor Spacing.

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« Reply #119 on: August 13, 2012, 07:02:20 PM »

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I would consider Pau against Marc to be neutral because I don't think Washington have enough spacing on the interior (with Gortat there) to create enough time and space for Pau to regularly take advantage of Marc with his superior quickness and mobility.

Without that, I think they play one another to a standstill.

Thus allowing Marc to utilize all his size and considerable bulk defensively in making Pau Gasol's life difficult offensively.

Gortat will defend Marc

Yes, but Marc will defend Pau on the other end.

Shouldnt it be the same though with Marc and Griffin? Also Wallace has the advantage over Ron

Yes with Pau defending Blake Griffin and Gortat defending Marc Gasol.

I think Marc has an advantage over Gortat due to his jump-shooting and passing ability.

Blake Griffin is too quick and explosive for Pau Gasol. Gasol will have a mix of good and bad sequences against Griffin. Ones where he uses his length well to force low percentage shots but also others where he gets blown by and concedes high percentage shots. From the look of their matchups last season, on the whole, it looked like Blake Griffin was fairly effective scoring against Pau.

The pick and roll is going to destroy this team. Russell destroyed LAL in the playoffs with the pick and roll because LAL's point guards struggled to fight through screens. All of Washington's guards will struggle in this regard.

You will see Gortat or Gasol matched up on Westbrook several times at the top of the free throw line circle. As a result they will play off 99% of the time. Russell for 15-18 ft is money. Russ can actually blow by to the hoop as the screen roll takes place.

He can hit Marc and Blake on cuts to the basket, throw lobs to Blake and hit Marc for the little jumper. And hit either one in the post when the guard switches.

Washington's backcourt is very susceptible to this b/c of their size and lack of defensive ability.

It's a very simple strategy but it is also very effective due to the personnel Washinton is putting on the court. LAL with both Pau and Bynum have always ahd trouble defending the pick and roll together and they missed Lamar Odom when he left as a guy who could play with either one and defend it better.

The Pick and Roll is a huge part of my strategy in the half court.


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