2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup

[Kane3387]

Im not saying this for the draft i am saying this in reality, Curry will still be a great player, a shooter never loses his shot. Either way like i said before ill root for whichever team wins this series

Sadly this isn't necessarily true. Curry just didn't depend on a shot. He depended on quickness but he also depended on a scheme.

These Wizards aren't like the Warriors and Curry wasn't the same player after the ankle issues.

Some guys bodies just don't hold up. McGrady is a great example. So is Penny and Grant Hill.

Guys with injuries all the time never get to train and develop. They are alway rehabbing and trying to catch up.

Curry played like 20 games and has had several injuries to the same place which is what is so bad. It's why so many people dumped him in this contest. They didn't trust him. Now you want him to core 20 a game and guard Russell Westbrook?

Not happening. Not after a year of rehabbing. KG was a shell of himself after less of an injury. He had one surgery. Curry has had multiple to the same EXACT place.

Once again i said real life not draft okay i dont know why you keep on bringing the draft up, T-Mac isnt the shooter Curry is, Curry will have a great season and if there was a  CB Draft Hindsight Award i would get it

Curry has to be able to play. He has to stay on the court AND BE 100% before the surgeries. There is nothing from this past season that tells me this will happen.

Well what about Griffin didnt he have also 2 knee surgeries?

The second is very minor and Roy Hobbs himself mentioned how in todays NBA
 the meniscus surgery like this is nothing. Also Griffin came back incredibly after the first surgery. His track record shows that he can come back strong and dominate.

His track record? Curry also was pretty good this season with 15 points 5 assist a game

In 30% of the games he could play? And he didn't play any at the end of the year? He is a huge unknown. You are radically hoping for a best case scenario for  a guy who has repeatedly had the same body part hurt.

His surgery wasnt major the second time he only got it to clean loose debris also curry is already playing basketball and he will be playing in a tourney next week he will be ready by the start of the season

Link..

Also that was the case last season. Pickup game aren't NBA games...

Shouldn't this thread be closed? I will keep going all night. 

here is the link
http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/08/10/article/williams_harvick_currys_to_play_in_wyndham_pro_ams

And like i said before, we want you to win cause clearly your life depends on it You take this way too seriously

Lol cute

Why would I not try to win if I am playing?... Might as well after all the time I invested in this the past month.

[Kane3387]

When is the voting deadlIne?

Thought it was 11:59 pm EST

[ronaldo943]

Why Boston Wins!

Boston has arguably the three best players in the series.

The Pick and Roll in the half court will destroy with Russ and my two bigs. Washington's guards will have enough issues fighting through screens let alone trying to recover to handle Russ. Not to mention Marc Gasol in the post

Washington has a lot of inefficient shooters. And this will help with the transition game of the Celtics. Russ and Blake will be running a lot.

Also my Big three are playing 38-40 minutes which offsets Depth entirely. They will be playing against backups a lot.

Lastly talent prevails in this series in which the Celtics have HCA. Too much top tier talent compared to that of the opposition and this ultimately prevails in the end. There is no matchup that Washington has that you can say, "OK clear advantage Washington and this is why they pull the upset without HCA."

Okay thats enough

Boston inefficient shooters:
Russell Westbrook
Ron Artest
Stephen Jackson
Richard Hamilton
D.J Augustine

Boston efficient shooters:

Lol I have already addresses this one repeatedly... Read the thread. Come with something new.

Lou Williams, JR Smith, Gerald Wallace, Jameer Nelson, Michale Beasley...

Same thing.

Washingtons efficient shooters:
Novak
Curry
Billups

Let the guy win the series you can clearly tell his life depends on it

Novak and Billups off a ACL injury at 37 can play all they want. Curry will have his hands full on D. Not tripping about one dude who hits 40% maybe on a team of 13.

Once again a shooter never loses his shot that being said Billups will never lose his shot nor Curry! Novak was #! in 3PT% and #2 in TS%.
i mean even if you beat us you will most likely lose to IP but hey if your lifetime goal is to win the CB Draft ill let it be

[ronaldo943]

When is the voting deadlIne?

Thought it was 11:59 pm EST

It ends tommorow at 11:59 PM EST

[Kane3387]

Why Boston Wins!

Boston has arguably the three best players in the series.

The Pick and Roll in the half court will destroy with Russ and my two bigs. Washington's guards will have enough issues fighting through screens let alone trying to recover to handle Russ. Not to mention Marc Gasol in the post

Washington has a lot of inefficient shooters. And this will help with the transition game of the Celtics. Russ and Blake will be running a lot.

Also my Big three are playing 38-40 minutes which offsets Depth entirely. They will be playing against backups a lot.

Lastly talent prevails in this series in which the Celtics have HCA. Too much top tier talent compared to that of the opposition and this ultimately prevails in the end. There is no matchup that Washington has that you can say, "OK clear advantage Washington and this is why they pull the upset without HCA."

Okay thats enough

Boston inefficient shooters:
Russell Westbrook
Ron Artest
Stephen Jackson
Richard Hamilton
D.J Augustine

Boston efficient shooters:

Lol I have already addresses this one repeatedly... Read the thread. Come with something new.

Lou Williams, JR Smith, Gerald Wallace, Jameer Nelson, Michale Beasley...

Same thing.

Washingtons efficient shooters:
Novak
Curry
Billups

Let the guy win the series you can clearly tell his life depends on it

Novak and Billups off a ACL injury at 37 can play all they want. Curry will have his hands full on D. Not tripping about one dude who hits 40% maybe on a team of 13.

Once again a shooter never loses his shot that being said Billups will never lose his shot nor Curry! Novak was #! in 3PT% and #2 in TS%.
i mean even if you beat us you will most likely lose to IP but hey if your lifetime goal is to win the CB Draft ill let it be

You think they will just be wide open shooting though? 

I mean tell that to Michael Redd.

They can shoot, ok, but what are you sacrificing on defense?

My lifetime goal? Lol what?

[ronaldo943]

Im going to sleep as i have Cross Country in the morning

[Kane3387]

When is the voting deadlIne?

Thought it was 11:59 pm EST

It ends tommorow at 11:59 PM EST

Yup. You are right. I will respond tomorrow since I have time.

[bfrombleacher]

Don't the C's have home court advantage on Celticsblog? 

[Kane3387]

Im not saying this for the draft i am saying this in reality, Curry will still be a great player, a shooter never loses his shot. Either way like i said before ill root for whichever team wins this series

Sadly this isn't necessarily true. Curry just didn't depend on a shot. He depended on quickness but he also depended on a scheme.

These Wizards aren't like the Warriors and Curry wasn't the same player after the ankle issues.

Some guys bodies just don't hold up. McGrady is a great example. So is Penny and Grant Hill.

Guys with injuries all the time never get to train and develop. They are alway rehabbing and trying to catch up.

Curry played like 20 games and has had several injuries to the same place which is what is so bad. It's why so many people dumped him in this contest. They didn't trust him. Now you want him to core 20 a game and guard Russell Westbrook?

Not happening. Not after a year of rehabbing. KG was a shell of himself after less of an injury. He had one surgery. Curry has had multiple to the same EXACT place.

Once again i said real life not draft okay i dont know why you keep on bringing the draft up, T-Mac isnt the shooter Curry is, Curry will have a great season and if there was a  CB Draft Hindsight Award i would get it

Curry has to be able to play. He has to stay on the court AND BE 100% before the surgeries. There is nothing from this past season that tells me this will happen.

Well what about Griffin didnt he have also 2 knee surgeries?

The second is very minor and Roy Hobbs himself mentioned how in todays NBA
 the meniscus surgery like this is nothing. Also Griffin came back incredibly after the first surgery. His track record shows that he can come back strong and dominate.

His track record? Curry also was pretty good this season with 15 points 5 assist a game

In 30% of the games he could play? And he didn't play any at the end of the year? He is a huge unknown. You are radically hoping for a best case scenario for  a guy who has repeatedly had the same body part hurt.

His surgery wasnt major the second time he only got it to clean loose debris also curry is already playing basketball and he will be playing in a tourney next week he will be ready by the start of the season

Link..

Also that was the case last season. Pickup game aren't NBA games...

Shouldn't this thread be closed? I will keep going all night. 

here is the link
http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/08/10/article/williams_harvick_currys_to_play_in_wyndham_pro_ams

And like i said before, we want you to win cause clearly your life depends on it You take this way too seriously

Seriously? Golf?

You try to pass golf off for him being back on the court? This is the CB Draft. You can try to make fun of me for taking it seriously, but at least come correct for the most part with evidence to support your claims. This is bad.

North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams and former Davidson basketball star Stephen Curry of the Golden State Warriors will be among the amateur competitors in the Wyndham Championship's pro-ams next week at Sedgefield Country Club.

Curry; his father and former Charlotte Hornets star Dell Curry; NASCAR driver and Oak Ridge resident Kevin Harvick; and model and former pro golfer Anna Rawson are expected to play in Monday’s Kevin Harvick Foundation Pro-Am presented by Technology Concepts & Design Inc.

Three junior golfers representing the First Tee of the Triad also will play Monday in the Harvick pro-am. Technology Concepts & Design Inc. has donated one of its groups to the program. The golfers are Whitsett's Anthony Atkins, 17, a part of the program since 2008; Pfafftown's Seth Lomison, 15, who joined the program in 2008; and Clemmons' Mathew Gao, 13.

Rawson returns to the Wyndham to participate in the Monday and Wednesday pro-am. Rawson grew up in Australia and has a career in golf and modeling. She played golf at Southern California and helped the Trojans win the 2003 NCAA national championship before turning professional. Rawson also models for corporate campaigns, high-end brands and fashion magazines.

http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/08/10/article/williams_harvick_currys_to_play_in_wyndham_pro_ams#nrcAnc_Middle2_Jump

[Rondo2287]

Gotta go celtics in this matchup, too much talent not to IMO

[Kane3387]

Found this interesting. The last two years for Pau Gasol in the playoffs.

2010-11 VS New Orleans (without David West). LAL wins series 4-2

Averages - 13.5 points, 6.8 rebs, and .418 fg%

2010-11 VS Dallas. LAL loses series 4-0

Averages -12.5 points, 9.3 rebs, and .422 fg%

2011-12 VS Denver. LAL wins series 4-3

Averages -12.9 pts, 9.1 rebs, and .427 fg%

2011-12 VS OKC. LAL loses series 4-1

Averages -12.0 pts, 10.0 rebs, and .444 fg%

Seeing as how Boston has HCA I will point out how Pau has been underwhelming on the road the last two years in the playoffs.

Against the Hornets in three road playoff games Pau scored 17, 16, and 16 points.
Against the Mavs in two road playoff games Pau scored 12 and 10 points.
Against the Nuggets in three road playoff games Pau scored 16, 13, and 3 points.
Against the Thunder in three road playoff games Pau scored 10, 14, and 14 points.

So in his last 11 road playoff games Pau has not scored more then 17 points?!

In his last 4 playoff series Pau has not been able to shoot over 45% from the field? This is your best player and inside presence...

Now some will point out that this is because Mike Brown didn't know how to use Pau. Well Phil Jackson was the coach in 2011. Also Washington's coach IS Mike Brown. Some will say it's because he didn't fit with Andrew Bynum. Well why is Marcin Gortat such a better fit?

Washington how does Mike Brown plan on playing Pau Gasol with Marcin Gortat? Will he use him differently then he did when he was with Andrew Bynum? If so, then how?

Also why should anyone believe Pau Gasol will perform better in this playoff series then he did in his last Four playoff series over the past two years?

I believe these are important questions seeing as how Pau Gasol is the best player on the Wizards and has to bring his 'A' game to win this series.

[ronaldo943]

Found this interesting. The last two years for Pau Gasol in the playoffs.

2010-11 VS New Orleans (without David West). LAL wins series 4-2

Averages - 13.5 points, 6.8 rebs, and .418 fg%

2010-11 VS Dallas. LAL loses series 4-0

Averages -12.5 points, 9.3 rebs, and .422 fg%

2011-12 VS Denver. LAL wins series 4-3

Averages -12.9 pts, 9.1 rebs, and .427 fg%

2011-12 VS OKC. LAL loses series 4-1

Averages -12.0 pts, 10.0 rebs, and .444 fg%

Seeing as how Boston has HCA I will point out how Pau has been underwhelming on the road the last two years in the playoffs.

Against the Hornets in three road playoff games Pau scored 17, 16, and 16 points.
Against the Mavs in two road playoff games Pau scored 12 and 10 points.
Against the Nuggets in three road playoff games Pau scored 16, 13, and 3 points.
Against the Thunder in three road playoff games Pau scored 10, 14, and 14 points.

So in his last 11 road playoff games Pau has not scored more then 17 points?!

In his last 4 playoff series Pau has not been able to shoot over 45% from the field? This is your best player and inside presence...

Now some will point out that this is because Mike Brown didn't know how to use Pau. Well Phil Jackson was the coach in 2011. Also Washington's coach IS Mike Brown. Some will say it's because he didn't fit with Andrew Bynum. Well why is Marcin Gortat such a better fit?

Washington how does Mike Brown plan on playing Pau Gasol with Marcin Gortat? Will he use him differently then he did when he was with Andrew Bynum? If so, then how?

Also why should anyone believe Pau Gasol will perform better in this playoff series then he did in his last Four playoff series over the past two years?

I believe these are important questions seeing as how Pau Gasol is the best player on the Wizards and has to bring his 'A' game to win this series.

This all we ever here from you Pau Gasol is his best player Pau this Pau that you only have 3 stars, congrats we have 6 great players and our depth is better then yours, if anything you arent convincing people to vote for your team you are just annoying them. Please go outside.

[ronaldo943]

Also realistically if Marc is a star then Gortat is also a star since didnt Gortat play better than Marc in head to head?

So you have 3 stars
we have Gortat, Gasol (2 stars) Wallace who is actually like a star. Curry who is a great player. Williams who was second in voting for 6th man, Spencer Hawes who in 25 minutes gets 9.6 points and 7.3 rebounds 1.3 blocks, DeJuan Blair who in 21 minutes get 9.5 points 5.5 rebounds

[Kane3387]

Found this interesting. The last two years for Pau Gasol in the playoffs.

2010-11 VS New Orleans (without David West). LAL wins series 4-2

Averages - 13.5 points, 6.8 rebs, and .418 fg%

2010-11 VS Dallas. LAL loses series 4-0

Averages -12.5 points, 9.3 rebs, and .422 fg%

2011-12 VS Denver. LAL wins series 4-3

Averages -12.9 pts, 9.1 rebs, and .427 fg%

2011-12 VS OKC. LAL loses series 4-1

Averages -12.0 pts, 10.0 rebs, and .444 fg%

Seeing as how Boston has HCA I will point out how Pau has been underwhelming on the road the last two years in the playoffs.

Against the Hornets in three road playoff games Pau scored 17, 16, and 16 points.
Against the Mavs in two road playoff games Pau scored 12 and 10 points.
Against the Nuggets in three road playoff games Pau scored 16, 13, and 3 points.
Against the Thunder in three road playoff games Pau scored 10, 14, and 14 points.

So in his last 11 road playoff games Pau has not scored more then 17 points?!

In his last 4 playoff series Pau has not been able to shoot over 45% from the field? This is your best player and inside presence...

Now some will point out that this is because Mike Brown didn't know how to use Pau. Well Phil Jackson was the coach in 2011. Also Washington's coach IS Mike Brown. Some will say it's because he didn't fit with Andrew Bynum. Well why is Marcin Gortat such a better fit?

Washington how does Mike Brown plan on playing Pau Gasol with Marcin Gortat? Will he use him differently then he did when he was with Andrew Bynum? If so, then how?

Also why should anyone believe Pau Gasol will perform better in this playoff series then he did in his last Four playoff series over the past two years?

I believe these are important questions seeing as how Pau Gasol is the best player on the Wizards and has to bring his 'A' game to win this series.

This all we ever here from you Pau Gasol is his best player Pau this Pau that you only have 3 stars, congrats we have 6 great players and our depth is better then yours, if anything you arent convincing people to vote for your team you are just annoying them. Please go outside.

Washington how does Mike Brown plan on playing Pau Gasol with Marcin Gortat? Will he use him differently then he did when he was with Andrew Bynum? If so, then how?

Also why should anyone believe Pau Gasol will perform better in this playoff series then he did in his last Four playoff series over the past two years?

[Kane3387]

So you have 3 stars
we have Gortat, Gasol (2 stars) Wallace who is actually like a star. Curry who is a great player. Williams who was second in voting for 6th man, Spencer Hawes who in 25 minutes gets 9.6 points and 7.3 rebounds 1.3 blocks, DeJuan Blair who in 21 minutes get 9.5 points 5.5 rebounds

Technically I have two SUPER stars and another All Star. Gortat isn't playing with Nash anymore. We will see how he fares next season.

Interesting in Red. Is that how many minutes he will see behind Pau?