2012 CB Draft (4)Celtics Vs (5)Wizards First Round Matchup

[Kane3387]

Final Statement:
1)I feel like our bigs cancel out their bigs then it comes down to:
2)westbrook vs curry
3)rip vs j.r. smith
4)artest vs wallace

5)their depth vs our depth

Floor Spacing.

1) My bigs are overall more talented, but I can say that they will play us tough. But the strategy we will use against both of them in the half court will separate mine from yours. I am talking about the Pick and roll.

Neither of your bigs will get back on defense and be able to guard blake.

2) Westbrook wins this matchup. Curry is not the same guy with the ankle. And we screen Curry to death.

3) Rip vs JR? How is having JR an advantage in a playoff series. He is a very flawed player and should not be counted on as a major piece to the puzzle for winning a 7 game series.

4) A lot like number 3 this isn't really an advantage. Artest and Wallace is a wash. I covered the statistics. Even if Wallace is better overall. It will be minimal and not enough to decide a 7 game series. Wallace at SF isn't that good and Artest doesn't have the pinched nerve like last year.

5) Minute distribution. Look at the minutes my subs are playing. My three best guys are all playing 38-40 minutes a game and will play more if they have too. Gasol as the oldest at 27 years old makes them all capable of playing heavy minutes.

I also have HCA.

[GreenFaith1819]

Starters
PG = Westbrook vs Steph Curry
SG = Rip vs JR Smith
SF = Artest vs G-Wallace
PF = B.Griffin vs P.Gasol
C  = M.Gasol vs Gortat

Bench
PG = DJ Augustin vs Lou Williams
SG = G.Green vs C.Billups
SF = S.Jackson vs M.Beasley
PF = T.Robinson vs S.Novak
C  = A.Gray vs S.Hawes

Posted to get a good look at the rosters.

I'd give a slight edge to Marc and Blake vs Gortat and Pau.

Last season, I thought that Blake outplayed Pau. As I checked the head-head matchups, Blake seemed to have a slight edge statistics-wise. Plus, I think by playing next to Marc, Blake would be a better player.

Pau is on the decline a bit, but still a top PF I believe. I can see him making Gortat better. But even with that I still like Marc-Blake over Pau-Gortat.

With Marc-Blake, you have two very good Bigs, one in their prime and the other is just approaching his prime (Blake).

As for Guard matchups, I like Westbrook's scoring and athleticism. He'd prove very hard to defend. As far as being a distributor and running the offense, Westbrook is still getting better in this regard, BUT: The fact that Marc Gasol is one of the best passing Bigs in the game helps to alleviate this, IMO.

A very close matchup, but I like Marc-Blake in this matchup and think those two would help their team prevail in a series.

[dark_lord]

these teams are pretty close, but i would give the nod to boston

[indeedproceed]

Have you guys posted this yet?:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=westbru01&p2=curryst01

Wayyyy closer than I thought. You could even argue Curry played better.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I got Wizards.

Unlike others I always see injuries as glass half full, and with a healthy Curry, he's a good enough pick and roll player with Gortat. I like that bench too, especially Chauncey who might not put put numbers, but he can lead those young studs.

Wizards in 6-7 games.

[ronaldo943]

Have you guys posted this yet?:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=westbru01&p2=curryst01

Wayyyy closer than I thought. You could even argue Curry played better.

Ill just say this, Curry did play better, he shot way better, the thing is though star power all ways wins so the chances of us winning are close to 0

[ronaldo943]

I got Wizards.

Unlike others I always see injuries as glass half full, and with a healthy Curry, he's a good enough pick and roll player with Gortat. I like that bench too, especially Chauncey who might not put put numbers, but he can lead those young studs.

Wizards in 6-7 games.

Finally someone with knowledge Curry is not going to be injured for his entire career and that is something that people need to understand, with monta ellis out of GS i see curry playing great this season

[Kane3387]

Have you guys posted this yet?:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=westbru01&p2=curryst01

Wayyyy closer than I thought. You could even argue Curry played better.

Besides the fact that Curry has had several ankle surgeries to the same ankle. Here are the numbers after all the ankle surgeries this past year. Clearly all the surgeries to the same body part will hurt him. Much like Grant Hill. Hill is still solid but he never returned to All Star form.

This past season.

Game 1
Westbrook - 28 points, 11 assts, 7 stls, 6 rebs, and .500 fg%
Curry - 15 points, 6 assays, 2 stls, 2 rebs, and .375 fg%

Game 2
Westbrook - 31 points, 7 assts, 2 stls, 1 rebs, and .571 fg%
Curry - 16 points, 10 assts, 2 stls, 7 rebs, and .777 fg%

Game 3
Westbrook - 18 points, 3 assts, 3 stls, 3 rebs, and .583 fg%
Curry - 11 points, 4 assts, 0 stls, 2 rebs, and .307 fg%

Westbrook left game 3 with an injury in the third qtr.

Curry can't stop Westbrook and no one else on this team can either. After the ankle surgeries you are betting a lot on him being 100% again. Isn't there a reason he was traded so much?

Before the injuries Curry could hang but post surgery he just wasn't the same player. And he isn't training this off-season. He is rehabbing.

[Kane3387]

I got Wizards.

Unlike others I always see injuries as glass half full, and with a healthy Curry, he's a good enough pick and roll player with Gortat. I like that bench too, especially Chauncey who might not put put numbers, but he can lead those young studs.

Wizards in 6-7 games.

You glass half full comment for Bogut was that he had several different injuries to different areas of the body.

Curry has only had injuries to the same ankle... How is this the same? It doesn't fit your glass half full argument that you had for Curry...

Plus we have HCA ..

[ronaldo943]

to be quite honest i'll root for whichever team wins this series.

[Kane3387]

I got Wizards.

Unlike others I always see injuries as glass half full, and with a healthy Curry, he's a good enough pick and roll player with Gortat. I like that bench too, especially Chauncey who might not put put numbers, but he can lead those young studs.

Wizards in 6-7 games.

Finally someone with knowledge Curry is not going to be injured for his entire career and that is something that people need to understand, with monta ellis out of GS i see curry playing great this season

Until Curry goes to Phoenix I can't see why he wouldn't be... I mean the argument can be made that he just isn't durable and lost a step. Plus he is rehabbing all off season and not working on his game like Russ is.

Russ will improve and Curry will be lucky to maintain. That is how rehab is compared to working out. WE all saw that with KG.

Also Russ just flat out destroyed him this past season after all the ankle surgeries.

[ronaldo943]

I got Wizards.

Unlike others I always see injuries as glass half full, and with a healthy Curry, he's a good enough pick and roll player with Gortat. I like that bench too, especially Chauncey who might not put put numbers, but he can lead those young studs.

Wizards in 6-7 games.

Finally someone with knowledge Curry is not going to be injured for his entire career and that is something that people need to understand, with monta ellis out of GS i see curry playing great this season

Until Curry goes to Phoenix I can't see why he wouldn't be... I mean the argument can be made that he just isn't durable and lost a step. Plus he is rehabbing all off season and not working on his game like Russ is.

Russ will improve and Curry will be lucky to maintain. That is how rehab is compared to working out. WE all saw that with KG.

Also Russ just flat out destroyed him this past season after all the ankle surgeries.

Im not saying this for the draft i am saying this in reality, Curry will still be a great player, a shooter never loses his shot. Either way like i said before ill root for whichever team wins this series

[Kane3387]

Im not saying this for the draft i am saying this in reality, Curry will still be a great player, a shooter never loses his shot. Either way like i said before ill root for whichever team wins this series

Sadly this isn't necessarily true. Curry just didn't depend on a shot. He depended on quickness but he also depended on a scheme.

These Wizards aren't like the Warriors and Curry wasn't the same player after the ankle issues.

Some guys bodies just don't hold up. McGrady is a great example. So is Penny and Grant Hill.

Guys with injuries all the time never get to train and develop. They are alway rehabbing and trying to catch up.

Curry played like 20 games and has had several injuries to the same place which is what is so bad. It's why so many people dumped him in this contest. They didn't trust him. Now you want him to efficiently score 20 a game, run an offense, and guard Russell Westbrook for an entire series?

Not happening. Not after a year of rehabbing. KG was a shell of himself after less of an injury. He had one surgery. Curry has had multiple to the same EXACT place.

[indeedproceed]

This is why I traded Curry. Any team that faces you in the playoffs will basically be hitting from the ladies tee, it's such an easy shot to drive home.

[ronaldo943]

Im not saying this for the draft i am saying this in reality, Curry will still be a great player, a shooter never loses his shot. Either way like i said before ill root for whichever team wins this series

Sadly this isn't necessarily true. Curry just didn't depend on a shot. He depended on quickness but he also depended on a scheme.

These Wizards aren't like the Warriors and Curry wasn't the same player after the ankle issues.

Some guys bodies just don't hold up. McGrady is a great example. So is Penny and Grant Hill.

Guys with injuries all the time never get to train and develop. They are alway rehabbing and trying to catch up.

Curry played like 20 games and has had several injuries to the same place which is what is so bad. It's why so many people dumped him in this contest. They didn't trust him. Now you want him to core 20 a game and guard Russell Westbrook?

Not happening. Not after a year of rehabbing. KG was a shell of himself after less of an injury. He had one surgery. Curry has had multiple to the same EXACT place.

Once again i said real life not draft okay i dont know why you keep on bringing the draft up, T-Mac isnt the shooter Curry is, Curry will have a great season and if there was a  CB Draft Hindsight Award i would get it