2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[The Walker Wiggle]

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

Its gonna be like this from now on, isn't it? Sigh.

Out of bounds? You're all strong teams in the East and in this discussion.

Or are you trying to make me feel guilty while overlooking my team completely?

[The Walker Wiggle]

Well I'm up 1-0 in kind compliments so far this year.  .

Well, without giving away any strategy, you picked 4 or 5 guys that we had specifically targeted, so I can't think your team is too bad.

1-1. This one might go down to the wire, folks.

(Although note that the ever coy Roy Hobbs at no point used the word, "good.")

[indeedproceed]

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

Its gonna be like this from now on, isn't it? Sigh.

Out of bounds? You're all strong teams in the East and in this discussion.

Or are you trying to make me feel guilty while overlooking my team completely?

Ha, I'm not overlooking your team completely, I've commented on it a few times. Its not out of bounds if you actually believe it, and I'm not trying to make you feel guilty.

If ya don't like the Bulls, ya don't like the Bulls. But I'm not seeing my starting 5 vs his as a particularly close contest in which team is better. Bullz 4-eva.

[ronaldo943]

Walker Wiggle i agree with you 100%

[The Walker Wiggle]

Ha, I'm not overlooking your team completely, I've commented on it a few times. Its not out of bounds if you actually believe it, and I'm not trying to make you feel guilty.

I'd meant overlooking our chances. You're still near the top of my GM rankings in terms of your generosity with player and roster critiques.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Walker Wiggle i agree with you 100%

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[Rondo2287]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man lets Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offensive sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, your offense would run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting...

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

I question what you mean by better.  I think this team has probably some of the worst floor spacing and ball movement in the league.  I would say they are at average rebounding the ball and their backcourt is one of the worst defensive backcourts in theleague.

[indeedproceed]

Ha, I'm not overlooking your team completely, I've commented on it a few times. Its not out of bounds if you actually believe it, and I'm not trying to make you feel guilty.

I'd meant overlooking our chances. You're still near the top of my GM rankings in terms of your generosity with player and roster critiques.

I'm not overlooking your chances, but I do need some help understanding your team. You never even addressed this:

THE DUBS

The beginnings of a bench.

SG Manu Ginobili/ Delonte West
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Anthony Davis
C Channing Frye/ Bismack Biyombo

Tell me about Anthony Davis. Like, compare him to a player of similar tendencies you think he'll match his rookie year on offense, and the same on defense. I've watched him in college, but even the best rookies have an acclimation period. Where is Anthony Davis's baseline, potential notwithstanding.

Also someone explain to me why notwithstanding is one word, and not 3.

[ronaldo943]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man lets Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offensive sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, your offense would run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting...

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

I question what you mean by better.  I think this team has probably some of the worst floor spacing and ball movement in the league.  I would say they are at average rebounding the ball and their backcourt is one of the worst defensive backcourts in theleague.

Worst floor spacing? You have Mbah A Moute and George Hill, Our starting big men would out rebound your big men. Tyreke would abuse Hill in scoring and Evans and Martin arent bad defenders

[ChampKind]

Here's a distraction for you guys: The Clippers -

PG: Goran Dragic/Darren Collison
SG: Eric Gordon/Rip Hamilton
SF: Shawn Marion/Omri Casspi
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/Derrick Favors/Tyler Hansbrough
C: Roy Hibbert/Derrick Favors/Brandan Wright

Huh?

[Rondo2287]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man lets Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offensive sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, your offense would run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting...

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

I question what you mean by better.  I think this team has probably some of the worst floor spacing and ball movement in the league.  I would say they are at average rebounding the ball and their backcourt is one of the worst defensive backcourts in theleague.

Worst floor spacing? You have Mbah A Moute and George Hill, Our starting big men would out rebound your big men. Tyreke would abuse Hill in scoring and Evans and Martin arent bad defenders

You mean George Hill who shot 43% from 3 last year compared to Evans who shot in 20%.  Yes thats the floor spacing im referring to. 

Also Mbah A Moute shot 25% versus Crash shooting 30%  Not that terrible for us considering we have mbah out their to defend and not score.  I disagree on the rebounding and yes Martin and Evans are bad defenders.

[ronaldo943]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man lets Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offensive sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, your offense would run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting...

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

I question what you mean by better.  I think this team has probably some of the worst floor spacing and ball movement in the league.  I would say they are at average rebounding the ball and their backcourt is one of the worst defensive backcourts in theleague.

Worst floor spacing? You have Mbah A Moute and George Hill, Our starting big men would out rebound your big men. Tyreke would abuse Hill in scoring and Evans and Martin arent bad defenders

You mean George Hill who shot 43% from 3 last year compared to Evans who shot in 20%.  Yes thats the floor spacing im referring to. 

Also Mbah A Moute shot 25% versus Crash shooting 30%  Not that terrible for us considering we have mbah out their to defend and not score.  I disagree on the rebounding and yes Martin and Evans are bad defenders.

Look at our bench we can easily add them in and we'd have the best spacing in the world if it pleases you, also here for the rebounding, we out rebound you 17.7 to 15.6 or you can also go by rebounds per 48 minutes where we out rebound you 27 to 26.1


http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds/sort/avgRebounds/position/power-forwards
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds/sort/avgRebounds/position/centers

[BigAlTheFuture]

Here's a distraction for you guys: The Clippers -

PG: Goran Dragic/Darren Collison
SG: Eric Gordon/Rip Hamilton
SF: Shawn Marion/Omri Casspi
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/Derrick Favors/Tyler Hansbrough
C: Roy Hibbert/Derrick Favors/Brandan Wright

Huh?

Dang it, Champ. I was gonna pick Casspi at 11.15.

[BigAlTheFuture]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

[indeedproceed]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

This team is built to Steve Nash's strenghts like 808's and Heartbreaks is built around autotune.

And I like it a lot. I wish you'd taken your token Robin Lopez-esque giant for 'just in case' situations, but I like your team a lot. I don't think Love is as good of a player as Amare was in Phoenix, but I think he's close. I'm not sure where you rank in the West, but thats mostly because its been 6 rounds and a million trades since I thought about it last.