2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[BigAlTheFuture]

Evans>Hill
Martin<Kobe
Wallace> Mbah A Moute
Gasol>West
DeAndre Jordan<Tim Duncan

Our Bench> Your Bench
Novak> Mbah A Moute

I detest this type of analysis

Same, they could be better individually but if they don't play well together, forget it. Washington has talent, just very bad fit. 

[Rondo2287]

Evans>Hill
Martin<Kobe
Wallace> Mbah A Moute
Gasol>West
DeAndre Jordan<Tim Duncan

Our Bench> Your Bench
Novak> Mbah A Moute

I detest this type of analysis

Meh its alright we all know it doesnt really mean anything.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Varejao / Lopez / Joel Anthony  P.S. big men worst nightmare
Lebron / Brand
Green / Dunleavy
Sefolosha / Gordon
Irving

You're going to slot the games best 3 in at the 4? Believe the guy that started Garnett at the 5, it's going to hurt you on votes.

Otherwise a strong team, reminiscent of the Cavs.

[Lucky17]

Evans>Hill
Martin<Kobe
Wallace> Mbah A Moute
Gasol>West
DeAndre Jordan<Tim Duncan

Our Bench> Your Bench
Novak> Mbah A Moute

I detest this type of analysis

this type of analysis < other types of analysis

[Roy H.]

Varejao / Lopez / Joel Anthony  P.S. big men worst nightmare
Lebron / Brand
Green / Dunleavy
Sefolosha / Gordon
Irving

You're going to slot the games best 3 in at the 4? Believe the guy that started Garnett at the 5, it's going to hurt you on votes.

Otherwise a strong team, reminiscent of the Cavs.

Well, that was the kindest thing Wiggle ever said to us, so we'll take it.

This team is much, much better than any team Lebron was on with the Cavs, though.  Also, Lebron played 24% of the Heat's minutes at PF last year, and he put up a redunkulous 37.1 PER.  He outrebounded opposing PFs, he outshot them by over ten percentage points, and he outscored them by more than double.

Much like Larry Bird before him, Lebron James is the best PF in the NBA.  He just happens to play most of his time at SF.

[The Walker Wiggle]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man lets Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offensive sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, your offense would run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting...

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

[Roy H.]

Are you arguing that a wrist injury is a chronic condition?  Is there any player in the history of the NBA that was repeatedly hampered by severe wrist injuries?

This isn't a knee we're talking about.

[Roy H.]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man let's Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offense sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, you're offense would probably run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

I hate the Evans / Martin back court -- it's talented, but very poor in terms of fit and chemistry -- but I prefer Wiggle's lineup to IP's.

[ronaldo943]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man let's Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offense sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, you're offense would probably run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

I hate the Evans / Martin back court -- it's talented, but very poor in terms of fit and chemistry -- but I prefer Wiggle's lineup to IP's.

lets just remember that the evans and martin lineup didnt work when evans was a rookie and the kings wanted to make him their main player

[Kane3387]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man let's Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offense sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, you're offense would probably run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

You have to start Gasol and Jordan. I think you need to look into a Big man who can shoot though and could play beside either Jordan or Gasol. I don't think that guy is Blair or Wallace.

Gasol is better at PF but he needs to place close to the basket. I like Wallace at the three because playing him at the 4 and Gasol at the 5 just doesn't give you a lot of interior defense.

Tyreke and Lou Williams is a chemistry disaster. I think you really need to acquire a pure PG.

[ronaldo943]

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

Terrible advice or great gamesmanship? The length of Gasol and Jordan is going to give other team's fits. And Jordan's role as a cutter and clean up man let's Gasol work on the block. Mike Brown's questionable offense sets pushed Pau out to the perimeter too often because he couldn't figure out more effective ways to make space for Bynum.

Novak doesn't belong in an NBA starting line-up and while Martin is coming off a tough campaign, he's a first round talent. Keep in mind this is a guy who in 10-11 posted a 60% TS% as a fist option on offense. That's phenomenal. To put it in perspective, it's something that Lebron has never done.

Yes, you're offense would probably run smoother if you could move either Evans or Crash for a high calibre point guard but starting

PG Tyreke Evans
SG Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Pau Gasol
C DeAndre Jordan

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

thats the starting lineup we like also and martin still play good last year

[Rondo2287]

Are you arguing that a wrist injury is a chronic condition?  Is there any player in the history of the NBA that was repeatedly hampered by severe wrist injuries?

This isn't a knee we're talking about.

I hear ya its not a knee, but it still doesnt mean his durability shouldnt be brought into question.  Two seasons of just about 30 games is pretty serious stuff. 

I mean its similar to the Bogut injuries he doesnt have the same injury recurring but eventually you have to question his durability. 

This all being said though Varejao is a unique physical specimen, not many guys could take a full fledged elbow to the groin without flinching. 

[indeedproceed]

Still gives the Wizards a better starting five than the Bulls or Hawks.

Its gonna be like this from now on, isn't it? Sigh.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Varejao / Lopez / Joel Anthony  P.S. big men worst nightmare
Lebron / Brand
Green / Dunleavy
Sefolosha / Gordon
Irving

You're going to slot the games best 3 in at the 4? Believe the guy that started Garnett at the 5, it's going to hurt you on votes.

Otherwise a strong team, reminiscent of the Cavs.

Well, that was the kindest thing Wiggle ever said to us, so we'll take it.

This team is much, much better than any team Lebron was on with the Cavs, though.  Also, Lebron played 24% of the Heat's minutes at PF last year, and he put up a redunkulous 37.1 PER.  He outrebounded opposing PFs, he outshot them by over ten percentage points, and he outscored them by more than double.

Much like Larry Bird before him, Lebron James is the best PF in the NBA.  He just happens to play most of his time at SF.

Well I'm up 1-0 in kind compliments so far this year.  . I'm willing to consider the case that this team is better than James's Cavs squad, though not the Heat. The Irving trade was a classic Roy heist.

As for starting James at the 4, I'm personally open to it. I probably even floated the idea two years ago in the Pick Two. I would be curious to know whether Spoelstra was carefully picking his battles.

The cons? I don't think Jeff Green gives you enough as a starter - poor shooting, mediocre defense and rebounding - to justify the move and I expect the argument to go along the lines of my Garnett at center argument. He's more skilled, the quickness advantage is increasingly valuable in today's NBA, the numbers are in his favor. But he hasn't actually ever started a twenty game stretch at the four, let alone an 82 games and this tends to be an I'll-believe-when-I-see-it crowd. Of course I'm not half the hype man.

[Roy H.]

Well I'm up 1-0 in kind compliments so far this year.  .

Well, without giving away any strategy, you picked 4 or 5 guys that we had specifically targeted, so I can't think your team is too bad.