2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[Lucky17]

Here's a distraction for you guys: The Clippers -

PG: Goran Dragic/Darren Collison
SG: Eric Gordon/Rip Hamilton
SF: Shawn Marion/Omri Casspi
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/Derrick Favors/Tyler Hansbrough
C: Roy Hibbert/Derrick Favors/Brandan Wright

Huh?

Team goes as far as Goran Dragic can take them, I think, although Gordon can create his own shot. Frontcourt rotation is a real strength of the team.

I have no idea what to think about Omri anymore. Not that the success of the team hinges on him. But I would like to see another wing on the roster, especially given Rip's health issues in recent years.

[ronaldo943]

Steve Novak is a LEGEND
http://youtu.be/IF9qMbr0-8c

[wdleehi]

Here's a distraction for you guys: The Clippers -

PG: Goran Dragic/Darren Collison
SG: Eric Gordon/Rip Hamilton
SF: Shawn Marion/Omri Casspi
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/Derrick Favors/Tyler Hansbrough
C: Roy Hibbert/Derrick Favors/Brandan Wright

Huh?

Gordon is the key.  If he can stay healthy, you have a great one two scoring duo.  If not, your team becomes old and slow. 

[ChampKind]

Here's a distraction for you guys: The Clippers -

PG: Goran Dragic/Darren Collison
SG: Eric Gordon/Rip Hamilton
SF: Shawn Marion/Omri Casspi
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/Derrick Favors/Tyler Hansbrough
C: Roy Hibbert/Derrick Favors/Brandan Wright

Huh?

Team goes as far as Goran Dragic can take them, I think, although Gordon can create his own shot. Frontcourt rotation is a real strength of the team.

I have no idea what to think about Omri anymore. Not that the success of the team hinges on him. But I would like to see another wing on the roster, especially given Rip's health issues in recent years.

Having another starting PG behind Dragic in Collison is definitely a big deal here. I think Dragic is a pure enough point to facilitate this offense well, and Marion/Dirk/Hibbert are solid enough passers to get the team through any prolonged playmaking slumps in the backcourt.

Casspi...who knows. He's talented but he's also been caught up on bad teams and in strange roles. He's a solid jump shooter with the length to hassle opposing wings, so I think he can handle 15 minutes a night on a better team than he's ever seen before. I'm not doing that as a backdoor brag or anything - the Cavs and Kings are just really bad.

[BigAlTheFuture]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

This team is built to Steve Nash's strenghts like 808's and Heartbreaks is built around autotune.

And I like it a lot. I wish you'd taken your token Robin Lopez-esque giant for 'just in case' situations, but I like your team a lot. I don't think Love is as good of a player as Amare was in Phoenix, but I think he's close. I'm not sure where you rank in the West, but thats mostly because its been 6 rounds and a million trades since I thought about it last.

Really? I think Love > Amare in Phoenix, by a fair margin. K-Love is just as good a scorer as Amare was but with a 3 point shot. Neither are good defenders but Love is a better rebounder than Amare, by a mile. Give me Love any day of the week. Might not be as big of a name as Amare, but with the right supporting cast, Love would be Top 5 player.

[wdleehi]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

This team is built to Steve Nash's strenghts like 808's and Heartbreaks is built around autotune.

And I like it a lot. I wish you'd taken your token Robin Lopez-esque giant for 'just in case' situations, but I like your team a lot. I don't think Love is as good of a player as Amare was in Phoenix, but I think he's close. I'm not sure where you rank in the West, but thats mostly because its been 6 rounds and a million trades since I thought about it last.

Really? I think Love > Amare in Phoenix, by a fair margin. K-Love is just as good a scorer as Amare was but with a 3 point shot. Neither are good defenders but Love is a better rebounder than Amare, by a mile. Give me Love any day of the week. Might not be as big of a name as Amare, but with the right supporting cast, Love would be Top 5 player.

Love is not the pick and roll beast that Amare was when he was healthy.


Love fits next to Nash spreading the floor.  I am not sure he is the one to use on the pick and roll. 

[indeedproceed]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

This team is built to Steve Nash's strenghts like 808's and Heartbreaks is built around autotune.

And I like it a lot. I wish you'd taken your token Robin Lopez-esque giant for 'just in case' situations, but I like your team a lot. I don't think Love is as good of a player as Amare was in Phoenix, but I think he's close. I'm not sure where you rank in the West, but thats mostly because its been 6 rounds and a million trades since I thought about it last.

Really? I think Love > Amare in Phoenix, by a fair margin. K-Love is just as good a scorer as Amare was but with a 3 point shot. Neither are good defenders but Love is a better rebounder than Amare, by a mile. Give me Love any day of the week. Might not be as big of a name as Amare, but with the right supporting cast, Love would be Top 5 player.

Amare, before injuries have steadily hurt him, could score from anywhere on the floor, was an elite pick and roll player, and was athletic enough to finish with anyone around the rim.

Love>Amare now by a far margin, but Amare was scoring 25 points, 9 boards, 2 blocks, a call me crazy 65% TS%, and playing for a contender.

Love's been really good for a pretty bad team he can't seem to get out of the cellar.

[Lucky17]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

Absolutely love the talent and fit of the starting lineup. Could be the best in the draft, collectively speaking.

That said, not crazy about your bench guys. Your bigs and SF are all really raw players. DeRozan seemed to regress last year, although I think he'll do fine for you. We've discussed Felton ad nauseum, I think.

With your remaining picks, would like to see some "sure things," even if none of them are particularly sexy players.

[ChampKind]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

Absolutely love the talent and fit of the starting lineup. Could be the best in the draft, collectively speaking.

That said, not crazy about your bench guys. Your bigs and SF are all really raw players. DeRozan seemed to regress last year, although I think he'll do fine for you. We've discussed Felton ad nauseum, I think.

With your remaining picks, would like to see some "sure things," even if none of them are particularly sexy players.

I agree with the concerns about your depth, and I'm also a little skeptical about Prince/JRich on the wings. I'd look into a 1-for-2 trade to add a little more to the bench, but I'm just not sure what you'd want to move here. That Nash-Love-Noah trio is very nice. Also, I'll agree with the sentiment that Love is not the aggressive monster scoring around the rim that Amare was back in his heyday.

[action781]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

Absolutely love the talent and fit of the starting lineup. Could be the best in the draft, collectively speaking.

That said, not crazy about your bench guys. Your bigs and SF are all really raw players. DeRozan seemed to regress last year, although I think he'll do fine for you. We've discussed Felton ad nauseum, I think.

With your remaining picks, would like to see some "sure things," even if none of them are particularly sexy players.

I think Felton, for where he was drafted, is a good player to keep up some of what Nash brings at the PG position.  He's not the "change of pace" player that teams often like off the bench, but this team is built to have an identity around Nash running the show, so that change of place guy is not what would be best for this team and Felton can play a similar style as Nash, just not nearly as well.

What Felton lacks at the PG position, DeRozan can pick up with his ability to create offense.  I like the DeRozan fit well a lot.  Let him put up some shots, maybe get the defensive bigs to react to him a little bit, and allow Love and Noah to clean up underneath some of what doesn't go in.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Through 11

Cleveland Derps:

Projected starting line-up and rotations:



PG - Jeremy Lin / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush  /  Brandon Roy  /  (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist  /  Harrison Barnes
PF - Kenneth Faried  /  Kenyon Martin  /  Jason Smith
C  - Andrew Bogut  /  Andre Drummond  /  (Smith)



Roy, while listed at SG will be running point if he plays with Bayless.

Just me, but that's a pretty deep bench if you ask me. And this is assuming Roy is at least 70% of what he used to be, which is very plausible

[Kane3387]

The Phoenix Suns.

1. Steve Nash/Raymond Felton
2. Jason Richardson/DeMar DeRozan
3. Tayshaun Prince/Al-Farouq Aminu
4. Kevin Love/Tristan Thompson
5. Joakim Noah/Ekpe Udoh

Thoughts? Strengths? Weaknesses? Where do I rank in the West?

Absolutely love the talent and fit of the starting lineup. Could be the best in the draft, collectively speaking.

That said, not crazy about your bench guys. Your bigs and SF are all really raw players. DeRozan seemed to regress last year, although I think he'll do fine for you. We've discussed Felton ad nauseum, I think.

With your remaining picks, would like to see some "sure things," even if none of them are particularly sexy players.

I think Felton, for where he was drafted, is a good player to keep up some of what Nash brings at the PG position.  He's not the "change of pace" player that teams often like off the bench, but this team is built to have an identity around Nash running the show, so that change of place guy is not what would be best for this team and Felton can play a similar style as Nash, just not nearly as well.

What Felton lacks at the PG position, DeRozan can pick up with his ability to create offense.  I like the DeRozan fit well a lot.  Let him put up some shots, maybe get the defensive bigs to react to him a little bit, and allow Love and Noah to clean up underneath some of what doesn't go in.

I think the issue that most people have with Felton is his attitude. He can play, but his commitment and attitude made him enemy of the state number one on Oregon last year.

[nickagneta]

Rip it apart...I know I want to:

Boxers

PG: Russell Westbrook/Mario Chalmers/Jordan Farmar
SG: Stephen Curry/Gerald Green
SF: Wilson Chandler/Jonas Jerebko
PF: Donatas Montiejunas/Reggie Evans
C: Marcin Gortat/Jonas Valanciunas

[indeedproceed]

Rip it apart...I know I want to:

Boxers

PG: Russell Westbrook/Mario Chalmers/Jordan Farmar
SG: Stephen Curry/Gerald Green
SF: Wilson Chandler/Jonas Jerebko
PF: Donatas Montiejunas/Reggie Evans
C: Marcin Gortat/Jonas Valanciunas

I wouldn't, I like that team. Seems like something I'd put together in NBA 2k12. Jonas Jerebko likely doesn't have any bidness playing the 3 against most guys who start there, but I bet he can handle most backups. Kinda hitching your wagon to ol Montie at the 4, but considering you effectively already paid a 4th rounder for him, its hard to not put him to use. Valanciunas should be okay for the 15 minutes you're gonna play him a game hopefully..

Curry's ankles and Montie's ability to pickup the faster NBA game are what's gonna put you into the playoffs or keep you down in the lottery.

[Lucky17]

Rip it apart...I know I want to:

Boxers

PG: Russell Westbrook/Mario Chalmers/Jordan Farmar
SG: Stephen Curry/Gerald Green
SF: Wilson Chandler/Jonas Jerebko
PF: Donatas Montiejunas/Reggie Evans
C: Marcin Gortat/Jonas Valanciunas

I wouldn't, I like that team. Seems like something I'd put together in NBA 2k12. Jonas Jerebko likely doesn't have any bidness playing the 3 against most guys who start there, but I bet he can handle most backups. Kinda hitching your wagon to ol Montie at the 4, but considering you effectively already paid a 4th rounder for him, its hard to not put him to use. Valanciunas should be okay for the 15 minutes you're gonna play him a game hopefully..

Curry's ankles and Montie's ability to pickup the faster NBA game are what's gonna put you into the playoffs or keep you down in the lottery.

Is Montie the preferred moniker? I was thinking it might be Donuts.