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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #840 on: August 01, 2012, 01:22:08 PM »

Offline BigAlTheFuture

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I think the Southeast division has a clear winner.

I think my magic squad could hang with this team:

PG:Teague/Mo Williams
Sg:Thorton/Henderson
SF:Deng/Williams
PF:Amare/Odom
C:Magee/Mullens

I think Atlanta has this division on lock, to be honest. You can't put up that team up against the likes of Kobe and Duncan. A duo of Kobe and Duncan will give you 50+ wins no matter how old they are.

I don't think your squad can match their win totals.

To be honest their bench is old and their starters are old. I dont think Duncan and Kobe can play 40 plus minutes a night. They might win the division but I think their lack of depth on the bench will hurt them.

I agree. Come playoff time, younger teams like Chicago and Boston will be too much for the old-mighty Hawks. But if we're talking regular season, they will rack up wins. And they will win the division.

See I actually think the opposite.  I will manage my teams minutes during the regular season so that they are rested for the playoffs.  I mean untill the Thunder turned the table on the spurs a duncan lead team had won 10 straight games in the playoffs.

Tony Parker led that Spurs team. I think Duncan is a 2nd-3rd option on offense at this point in his career. Just think Boston's duo of Durant-Bynum will be tough for any team to beat.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #841 on: August 01, 2012, 01:24:44 PM »

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Pau Gasol                 David West
DeAndre Jordan            Tim Duncan

Bench:
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Greivis Vasquez           Grant Hill
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J.R. Smith                Samuel Dalembert
Steve Novak
DeJuan Blair
Matt Bonner

I wouldnt say they clearly win the division as we have a team with depth so we will rack 50+ wins while they have an old team and old team will do bad in back to backs

I don't know, man... just don't see a Pau Gasol led team winning 50+ games. 40-45 range seems fair with your team.

we have scorers though in wallace williams evans smith and martin we have 3 elite shooter in bonner redick and novak

Bonner and Novak are very poor defenders if they were out there they would get abused by my front court.  Also Wallace had a real tough time shooting the ball last year, Martin had a really hard time seeing the court last year, and Evans has never been part of a high caliber team. 

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #842 on: August 01, 2012, 01:28:31 PM »

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I think the Southeast division has a clear winner.

I think my magic squad could hang with this team:

PG:Teague/Mo Williams
Sg:Thorton/Henderson
SF:Deng/Williams
PF:Amare/Odom
C:Magee/Mullens

I think Atlanta has this division on lock, to be honest. You can't put up that team up against the likes of Kobe and Duncan. A duo of Kobe and Duncan will give you 50+ wins no matter how old they are.

I don't think your squad can match their win totals.

To be honest their bench is old and their starters are old. I dont think Duncan and Kobe can play 40 plus minutes a night. They might win the division but I think their lack of depth on the bench will hurt them.

I agree. Come playoff time, younger teams like Chicago and Boston will be too much for the old-mighty Hawks. But if we're talking regular season, they will rack up wins. And they will win the division.

See I actually think the opposite.  I will manage my teams minutes during the regular season so that they are rested for the playoffs.  I mean untill the Thunder turned the table on the spurs a duncan lead team had won 10 straight games in the playoffs.

Tony Parker led that Spurs team. I think Duncan is a 2nd-3rd option on offense at this point in his career. Just think Boston's duo of Durant-Bynum will be tough for any team to beat.

I agree and Duncan is the 2nd or 3rd choice here too, Kobe is 33, David west is only 31 Duncan is 36.  In Comparison, Pierce is 34, Ray is 37 and KG is 36.  The Hawks are no where near as old as the celtics were last year yet we were all pretty happy with how they ended up doing come playoff time and we are looking forward to seeing what they can do this year.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #843 on: August 01, 2012, 01:30:11 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #844 on: August 01, 2012, 01:31:16 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #845 on: August 01, 2012, 01:36:50 PM »

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Varejao / Lopez / Joel Anthony  P.S. big men worst nightmare
Lebron / Brand
Green / Dunleavy
Sefolosha / Gordon
Irving

Green and AV are pretty big question marks.  I hope green is a postive because we really need him to be, but AV and Bogut have been cut from the same cloth the last couple of seasons
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #846 on: August 01, 2012, 01:38:30 PM »

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Green and AV are pretty big question marks.  I hope green is a postive because we really need him to be, but AV and Bogut have been cut from the same cloth the last couple of seasons

Are you watching the Olympics
Varejao is pretty much in perfect shape

This team can play LeBron, Thabo and Dunleavy in Greens position all are starters and pretty good ones. so NP if hes up to a slow start... ;)
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #847 on: August 01, 2012, 01:39:28 PM »

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Pau Gasol                 David West
DeAndre Jordan            Tim Duncan

Bench:
Lou Williams              Jason Kidd
Greivis Vasquez           Grant Hill
J.J. Redick               Lavoy Allen
J.R. Smith                Samuel Dalembert
Steve Novak
DeJuan Blair
Matt Bonner

I wouldnt say they clearly win the division as we have a team with depth so we will rack 50+ wins while they have an old team and old team will do bad in back to backs

I don't know, man... just don't see a Pau Gasol led team winning 50+ games. 40-45 range seems fair with your team.

we have scorers though in wallace williams evans smith and martin we have 3 elite shooter in bonner redick and novak

Bonner and Novak are very poor defenders if they were out there they would get abused by my front court.  Also Wallace had a real tough time shooting the ball last year, Martin had a really hard time seeing the court last year, and Evans has never been part of a high caliber team.

Lol i find that funny Mbah A Moute wouldnt abuse Novak ill tell you that and Bonner wont have to play against you guys

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #848 on: August 01, 2012, 01:40:45 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #849 on: August 01, 2012, 01:42:22 PM »

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Green / Dunleavy
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Irving

Green and AV are pretty big question marks.  I hope green is a postive because we really need him to be, but AV and Bogut have been cut from the same cloth the last couple of seasons

Are you watching the Olympics
Varejao is pretty much in perfect shape

This team can play LeBron, Thabo and Dunleavy in Greens position all are starters and pretty good ones. so NP if hes up to a slow start... ;)

He was in perfect shape to start each of the last two seasons too and then couldnt play over 30 games.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #850 on: August 01, 2012, 01:43:22 PM »

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DeAndre Jordan            Tim Duncan

Bench:
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Greivis Vasquez           Grant Hill
J.J. Redick               Lavoy Allen
J.R. Smith                Samuel Dalembert
Steve Novak
DeJuan Blair
Matt Bonner

I wouldnt say they clearly win the division as we have a team with depth so we will rack 50+ wins while they have an old team and old team will do bad in back to backs

I don't know, man... just don't see a Pau Gasol led team winning 50+ games. 40-45 range seems fair with your team.

we have scorers though in wallace williams evans smith and martin we have 3 elite shooter in bonner redick and novak

Bonner and Novak are very poor defenders if they were out there they would get abused by my front court.  Also Wallace had a real tough time shooting the ball last year, Martin had a really hard time seeing the court last year, and Evans has never been part of a high caliber team.

Lol i find that funny Mbah A Moute wouldnt abuse Novak ill tell you that and Bonner wont have to play against you guys

Yes thats true he wouldnt abuse novak I thought you would be  playing novak as a stetch 4.  But ya i'll take Mbah Moute on Novak all day long.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #851 on: August 01, 2012, 01:44:54 PM »

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Pau Gasol                 David West
DeAndre Jordan            Tim Duncan

Bench:
Lou Williams              Jason Kidd
Greivis Vasquez           Grant Hill
J.J. Redick               Lavoy Allen
J.R. Smith                Samuel Dalembert
Steve Novak
DeJuan Blair
Matt Bonner

I wouldnt say they clearly win the division as we have a team with depth so we will rack 50+ wins while they have an old team and old team will do bad in back to backs

I don't know, man... just don't see a Pau Gasol led team winning 50+ games. 40-45 range seems fair with your team.

we have scorers though in wallace williams evans smith and martin we have 3 elite shooter in bonner redick and novak

Bonner and Novak are very poor defenders if they were out there they would get abused by my front court.  Also Wallace had a real tough time shooting the ball last year, Martin had a really hard time seeing the court last year, and Evans has never been part of a high caliber team.

Evans>Hill
Martin<Kobe
Wallace> Mbah A Moute
Gasol>West
DeAndre Jordan<Tim Duncan

Our Bench> Your Bench
Novak> Mbah A Moute

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #852 on: August 01, 2012, 01:46:18 PM »

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I wouldnt say they clearly win the division as we have a team with depth so we will rack 50+ wins while they have an old team and old team will do bad in back to backs

You've got 3 major problems:

1) You don't have a starting caliber point guard.

2) Your 3 most talented players (Tyreke, Crash, Gasol) won't fit well together without real spacers around them, and the floor spacers you have are incredibly flawed.

3) Personally, I don't think DeAndre Jordan is that good, and he's gonna hold you back. he's a good help defender, but a complete loss on offense unless Chris Paul is lobbing him alley-oops. On top of that, he's not an especially gifted man-on defender against better centers. 

I think step one towards embracing Pau Gasol is starting him at the 5, and putting Gerald Wallace next to him.

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #853 on: August 01, 2012, 01:48:37 PM »

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DeAndre Jordan            Tim Duncan

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J.R. Smith                Samuel Dalembert
Steve Novak
DeJuan Blair
Matt Bonner

I wouldnt say they clearly win the division as we have a team with depth so we will rack 50+ wins while they have an old team and old team will do bad in back to backs

You've got 3 major problems:

1) You don't have a starting caliber point guard.

2) Your 3 most talented players (Tyreke, Crash, Gasol) won't fit well together without real spacers around them, and the floor spacers you have are incredibly flawed.

3) Personally, I don't think DeAndre Jordan is that good, and he's gonna hold you back. he's a good help defender, but a complete loss on offense unless Chris Paul is lobbing him alley-oops. On top of that, he's not an especially gifted man-on defender against better centers. 

I think step one towards embracing Pau Gasol is starting him at the 5, and putting Gerald Wallace next to him.

You're gonna want your starting 5 to look like this:

Lou Williams/Vasquez
Tyreke Evans/Kevin Martin
Steve Novak/JR Smith
Crash Wallace/Dajuan Blair
Pau Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

At least I think its a step in the right direction.

that is actually quite a nice starting lineup especially since Wallace can rebound and you are just mad that we took vasquez :P

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #854 on: August 01, 2012, 01:52:32 PM »

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Evans>Hill
Martin<Kobe
Wallace> Mbah A Moute
Gasol>West
DeAndre Jordan<Tim Duncan

Our Bench> Your Bench
Novak> Mbah A Moute

I detest this type of analysis