Boston and Houston potential draft day trade partners according to nbadraft.net

[ianboyextreme]

I don't understand the love for Moultrie on this board. His defense is atrocious, he has character questions.. Do you really want a guy like that on this team?

One more thing, it's seems like you all forget that Doc doesn't play players (especially rookies) who can't play D.

yeah just look at eddy curry.....

You can't teach height or talent.

[ianboyextreme]

You don't move up for Royce White...he'll be around at 21 if you really want him

I hope another team picks him early, so we don't have to hear his name mentioned ever again.

I second that statement. Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Perry Jones III, and Moultrie I'd all move up for at 16.

Royce White was a sub-50% free throw shooter, wasn't he? And a guy that is supposed to be "the sf/pf version of Rondo," handling the ball...that kind of matters - a lot!

you would move up for perry jones III? Really glad you aernt in charge of our team.

[cltc5]

Whites condition is greatly overblown.  For one he stated he gets most nervous before flights but being with teamates and having meds has helped that.  Cant think of a better team to be on that will support him.  Moreover, he's doing alot to deal with it and not make it an issue.  The kid has great upside on and off the court.  The right system, like ours he could really blossom.

[EDWARDO]

Moultrie please...that is who I want to move up to get. Unfortunately I think delusional will move up for White. When DA falls in love he falls hard (see Jeff Green).

what exactly is delusional about Danny Ainge? It appears to me he almost always makes the right decision .

Lets Posey walk- Posey is useless for the last 2 years of his new contract.

Lets Powe Walk- People were angry at Danny for this, but Powe has never regained his early celtics form after multiple knee injuries

Trades Perk for Jeff Green and a 1st- Perk at 8 mil plus is just ridiculous . If Jeff Green comes back healthy(Turiaf  had the same surgery and has played for 5+ years since then), and the c's make even a decent pick(Fab Melo) with # 22 they win this trade hands down .

Trades BBD for Bass: Trades a near 30 mil contract for a 4 mil 1 year deal and better production. We can still use Bass in a s+t or use his free cap space to bring in another player.

The only one you can say that really got away was Tony Allen, but that was more of Tony Allen wanting to step out of the shadow of the big 3 .

He has drafted very well for where he has been picking in the draft. I just don't see how you can hate Danny so much

You make a lot of sense. The only one I disagree with is Posey. He was a key player on that title team and would have been important the next couple of years. If he was horrible for the final year or two, you could always amnesty him.

But TA was very similar to Posey and got all those minutes and was extremely effective. You overpay for Posey and get minutes from TA as well. Too similar as players. TA was the cheaper option and a better player for every year of that Posey contract.

[BballTim]

Moultrie please...that is who I want to move up to get. Unfortunately I think delusional will move up for White. When DA falls in love he falls hard (see Jeff Green).

what exactly is delusional about Danny Ainge? It appears to me he almost always makes the right decision .

Lets Posey walk- Posey is useless for the last 2 years of his new contract.

Lets Powe Walk- People were angry at Danny for this, but Powe has never regained his early celtics form after multiple knee injuries

Trades Perk for Jeff Green and a 1st- Perk at 8 mil plus is just ridiculous . If Jeff Green comes back healthy(Turiaf  had the same surgery and has played for 5+ years since then), and the c's make even a decent pick(Fab Melo) with # 22 they win this trade hands down .

Trades BBD for Bass: Trades a near 30 mil contract for a 4 mil 1 year deal and better production. We can still use Bass in a s+t or use his free cap space to bring in another player.

The only one you can say that really got away was Tony Allen, but that was more of Tony Allen wanting to step out of the shadow of the big 3 .

He has drafted very well for where he has been picking in the draft. I just don't see how you can hate Danny so much

You make a lot of sense. The only one I disagree with is Posey. He was a key player on that title team and would have been important the next couple of years. If he was horrible for the final year or two, you could always amnesty him.

  They didn't have amnesty back then.

[Eddie20]

Boston, Houston, LA in a 3 team trade makes the most sense.

Note: The picks would be made by the original team and the rights to the players would be traded away once the signing period begins.


Boston

Dalembert
Houston #16


Houston

Gasol
Boston #21


LA

Bass (via S & T)
Martin
Houston #14

Why for Boston? The C's are supposedly interested in moving up in the draft and need a center (Dalembert). They swap #21 for #16 as further compensation for absorbing the salary to allow Houston to receive far and away the best player in the deal.

Why for Houston? The Rockets love Gasol and are also rumored to be high on Teague, who should be available at #21. Giving up Dalembert (who they're trying to deal anyways), Martin, the #14,  and sliding down 5 posts in the trade for a player of Gasol's caliber seems like a great deal for them.

Why for LA? LA has been shopping Gasol all summer and have been looking for a first draft pick. They get the #14, Bass (who replaces Gasol as the starting 4), and Martin (who can either  add some serious scoring punch off a weak or start if Kobe moves up to the 3).

[SHAQATTACK]

million and one things could happen. 

I think DA would trade , if he sees a really good deal by getting a worthy player for his trading assets. He is going to have to get NEW blood sooner or later , so I would think he'll hold on to his two picks 

I really hope he keeps his two picks and takes White and Melo .

[rondohondo]

Boston, Houston, LA in a 3 team trade makes the most sense.

Note: The picks would be made by the original team and the rights to the players would be traded away once the signing period begins.


Boston

Dalmbert
Houston #16


Houston

Gasol
Boston #21


LA

Bass (via S & T)
Martin
Houston #14

Why for Boston? The C's are supposedly interested in moving up in the draft and need a center (Dalmebert). They swap #21 for #16 as further compensation for absorbing the salary to allow Houston to receive far and away the best player in the deal.

Why for Houston? The Rockets love Gasol and are also rumored to be high on Teague, who should be available at #21. Giving up Dalmebert (who they're trying to deal anyways), Martin, the #14,  and sliding down 5 posts in the trade for a player of Gasol's caliber seems like a great deal for them.

Why for LA? LA has been shopping Gasol all summer and have been looking for a first draft pick. They get the #14, Bass (who replaces Gasol as the starting 4), and Martin (who can either  add some serious scoring punch off a weak or start if Kobe moves up to the 3).

I was actually thinking of the same thing earlier , but it makes more sense for LA to get either Lowry or Dragic, they need a young starting PG badly. So replace Martin with a signed and traded Dragic and it makes more sense.

Hou sends: Dalembert,Dragic,14,16
Hou gets:  Gasol, #21

Bos sends: Bass S+t, #21
Bos gets : Dalembert + # 16

LAL sends: Gasol
LAL gets : Dragic,Bass #14

* I would even send Boston's # 22 pick to LA if thats what it takes to get the deal done. It's worth it to move up 5 spots in this draft to get and impact rookie and pick up a legit athletic center.

I like this trade a lot for all involved!

[CantBeRight]

When draft day comes I don't think this will happen.
ESPN is already reporting Houston is trying to trade both picks and fillers for sac's #5.

[Tradetime]

You don't move up for Royce White...he'll be around at 21 if you really want him

I hope another team picks him early, so we don't have to hear his name mentioned ever again.

I second that statement. Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Perry Jones III, and Moultrie I'd all move up for at 16.

Royce White was a sub-50% free throw shooter, wasn't he? And a guy that is supposed to be "the sf/pf version of Rondo," handling the ball...that kind of matters - a lot!

you would move up for perry jones III? Really glad you aernt in charge of our team.

He can shoot free throws, (unlike White), and he's athletic. It was also stated that he was not given the ball as much due to the system he played in at Baylor. He's been performing well at the combine, so I'm going to base my choice on all of those.

My first overall choice would be Sullinger. I'm guessing you're a Royce fan...

[LooseCannon]

At ESPN's TrueHoop blog, Chad Ford and Marc Stein are reporting:

Upon hearing of Sunday night's developments, one rival general manager told ESPN.com that he believes Houston's real aim is acquiring two top-10 picks this week to turn around quickly and offer both to the Orlando Magic as part of a considerable trade offer for Dwight Howard.

The Rockets' willingness to trade for Howard -- even without the All-Star center's signature on a contract extension -- is an open secret around the league. But it's believed that two top-eight picks, assuming Houston managed to complete trades with both Sacramento and Toronto, would seriously pique the interest of new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, who could then quickly start following the same sort of roster-building blueprint relied on by his previous employers in Oklahoma City.

If this is true, could Ainge be angling to find his way into the deal?  With salary cap rules, it would have to be something along the lines of the Celtics acquiring a player on his rookie deal for a first-round pick.  If officially consummated before the July moratorium, I believe such a deal would require the Celtics to send out some combination of JuJuan Johnson and the non-guaranteed contracts of E'Twuan Moore and Sean Williams for salary matching purposes.  Arguably, Sean Williams is on the roster with a non-guaranteed next season precisely so he can be traded and waived to make it easier to match salaries.  After the moratorium, there are some other options that open up, so a deal might be agreed to but not made official until July.  One reason to wait would be that the Celtics would be able to take back 150% of the salaries sent out instead of 125%.

[Theodora5]

so excited!

[jyyzzoel]

sullinger

yep!!! 100% agree. 16 is where sullinger could drop... and at that point in the draft he would be a steal.

NO WAY u move up to get royce white. he's not a danny pick anyways. he's not that good on D. rivers isnt a danny pick. same reason. sully is a danny pick in soooooo many ways...

[jyyzzoel]

At ESPN's TrueHoop blog, Chad Ford and Marc Stein are reporting:

Upon hearing of Sunday night's developments, one rival general manager told ESPN.com that he believes Houston's real aim is acquiring two top-10 picks this week to turn around quickly and offer both to the Orlando Magic as part of a considerable trade offer for Dwight Howard.

The Rockets' willingness to trade for Howard -- even without the All-Star center's signature on a contract extension -- is an open secret around the league. But it's believed that two top-eight picks, assuming Houston managed to complete trades with both Sacramento and Toronto, would seriously pique the interest of new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, who could then quickly start following the same sort of roster-building blueprint relied on by his previous employers in Oklahoma City.

If this is true, could Ainge be angling to find his way into the deal?  With salary cap rules, it would have to be something along the lines of the Celtics acquiring a player on his rookie deal for a first-round pick.  If officially consummated before the July moratorium, I believe such a deal would require the Celtics to send out some combination of JuJuan Johnson and the non-guaranteed contracts of E'Twuan Moore and Sean Williams for salary matching purposes.  Arguably, Sean Williams is on the roster with a non-guaranteed next season precisely so he can be traded and waived to make it easier to match salaries.  After the moratorium, there are some other options that open up, so a deal might be agreed to but not made official until July.  One reason to wait would be that the Celtics would be able to take back 150% of the salaries sent out instead of 125%.

yeah, ive been thinking danny would trade jajuan johnson on draft night since reading that toward the end of the season danny was praising moore for his work ethic, but he didnt even mention johnson at all. add to that the fact that he had a whole season in which he rarely played to put weight on - and he didnt.  i think danny wants to trade the kid before anyone realises what danny does about him.

[bfrombleacher]

At ESPN's TrueHoop blog, Chad Ford and Marc Stein are reporting:

Upon hearing of Sunday night's developments, one rival general manager told ESPN.com that he believes Houston's real aim is acquiring two top-10 picks this week to turn around quickly and offer both to the Orlando Magic as part of a considerable trade offer for Dwight Howard.

The Rockets' willingness to trade for Howard -- even without the All-Star center's signature on a contract extension -- is an open secret around the league. But it's believed that two top-eight picks, assuming Houston managed to complete trades with both Sacramento and Toronto, would seriously pique the interest of new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, who could then quickly start following the same sort of roster-building blueprint relied on by his previous employers in Oklahoma City.

If this is true, could Ainge be angling to find his way into the deal?  With salary cap rules, it would have to be something along the lines of the Celtics acquiring a player on his rookie deal for a first-round pick.  If officially consummated before the July moratorium, I believe such a deal would require the Celtics to send out some combination of JuJuan Johnson and the non-guaranteed contracts of E'Twuan Moore and Sean Williams for salary matching purposes.  Arguably, Sean Williams is on the roster with a non-guaranteed next season precisely so he can be traded and waived to make it easier to match salaries.  After the moratorium, there are some other options that open up, so a deal might be agreed to but not made official until July.  One reason to wait would be that the Celtics would be able to take back 150% of the salaries sent out instead of 125%.

yeah, ive been thinking danny would trade jajuan johnson on draft night since reading that toward the end of the season danny was praising moore for his work ethic, but he didnt even mention johnson at all. add to that the fact that he had a whole season in which he rarely played to put weight on - and he didnt.  i think danny wants to trade the kid before anyone realises what danny does about him.

Jajuan did gain 10 pounds in the offseason. Of all the C's I like, this one I like least at this point. But he's still on my like list.