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Offline Loose Cannon

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You don't move up for Royce White...he'll be around at 21 if you really want him

I hope another team picks him early, so we don't have to hear his name mentioned ever again.

I second that statement. Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Perry Jones III, and Moultrie I'd all move up for at 16.

Royce White was a sub-50% free throw shooter, wasn't he? And a guy that is supposed to be "the sf/pf version of Rondo," handling the ball...that kind of matters - a lot!
you would move up for perry jones III? Really glad you aernt in charge of our team.

Perry Jones has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He would fit in perfect with Rondo. If there is a situation where he'll reach his full potential, it's in Boston IMO.

I wouldn't want to trade up at all, but if we do I'd rather it be for Jones than Royce White.

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We are not moving up 5 spots to get one specific player, unless it is someone who was projected to go in the top 10-12 that has slid down to 16.  And I will only accept a move up to nab Austin Rivers.

As for the Houston deal, if Morley thinks Danny gave Royce White a promise, maybe it is a shrewd move to pick him and try to force Danny into a trade.  We all know Morley is trying to outsmart his opponents.

Danny is a cool customer though, he is not going to get worked up all over one player.  I have a hard time believing he loves Royce White that much that he is willing to give up a pick for him.

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My first overall choice would be Sullinger. I'm guessing you're a Royce fan...

I am a Celtics fan.  Sullinger makes me nervous with his back issues and lack of athletic ability.  He got blown away by Josh Harrelson last year in the NCAA's who is a bench guy for the Knicks.

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At ESPN's TrueHoop blog, Chad Ford and Marc Stein are reporting:

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Upon hearing of Sunday night's developments, one rival general manager told ESPN.com that he believes Houston's real aim is acquiring two top-10 picks this week to turn around quickly and offer both to the Orlando Magic as part of a considerable trade offer for Dwight Howard.

The Rockets' willingness to trade for Howard -- even without the All-Star center's signature on a contract extension -- is an open secret around the league. But it's believed that two top-eight picks, assuming Houston managed to complete trades with both Sacramento and Toronto, would seriously pique the interest of new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, who could then quickly start following the same sort of roster-building blueprint relied on by his previous employers in Oklahoma City.

If this is true, could Ainge be angling to find his way into the deal?  With salary cap rules, it would have to be something along the lines of the Celtics acquiring a player on his rookie deal for a first-round pick.  If officially consummated before the July moratorium, I believe such a deal would require the Celtics to send out some combination of JuJuan Johnson and the non-guaranteed contracts of E'Twuan Moore and Sean Williams for salary matching purposes.  Arguably, Sean Williams is on the roster with a non-guaranteed next season precisely so he can be traded and waived to make it easier to match salaries.  After the moratorium, there are some other options that open up, so a deal might be agreed to but not made official until July.  One reason to wait would be that the Celtics would be able to take back 150% of the salaries sent out instead of 125%.

yeah, ive been thinking danny would trade jajuan johnson on draft night since reading that toward the end of the season danny was praising moore for his work ethic, but he didnt even mention johnson at all. add to that the fact that he had a whole season in which he rarely played to put weight on - and he didnt.  i think danny wants to trade the kid before anyone realises what danny does about him.

That wouldn't surprise me.  I remember 3J essentially acknowledging at midyear that he hadn't worked hard enough to learn the plays and rotations.  But Stiemer was repeatedly praised by his veteran teammates for listening to them and working hard and EM for working hard.  3J not as much.  

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You don't move up for Royce White...he'll be around at 21 if you really want him

I hope another team picks him early, so we don't have to hear his name mentioned ever again.

I second that statement. Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Perry Jones III, and Moultrie I'd all move up for at 16.

Royce White was a sub-50% free throw shooter, wasn't he? And a guy that is supposed to be "the sf/pf version of Rondo," handling the ball...that kind of matters - a lot!
you would move up for perry jones III? Really glad you aernt in charge of our team.

Perry Jones has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He would fit in perfect with Rondo. If there is a situation where he'll reach his full potential, it's in Boston IMO.

I wouldn't want to trade up at all, but if we do I'd rather it be for Jones than Royce White.

http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

Latest nbadraft.net mock has us getting Perry and Terrence Jones.

If that's the case, don't move an inch Danny!

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My first overall choice would be Sullinger. I'm guessing you're a Royce fan...

I am a Celtics fan.  Sullinger makes me nervous with his back issues and lack of athletic ability.  He got blown away by Josh Harrelson last year in the NCAA's who is a bench guy for the Knicks.

I have seen every game Sullinger game has played in college...some in person and on TV. Sully didn't get destroyed by Josh Harrelson. Go rewatch the game. He would instantly upgrade the post offense and rebounding positions. Biggest obstacle would be guarding 4s.

Sully is a great kid and would be a VERY good player for boston.

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You don't move up for Royce White...he'll be around at 21 if you really want him

I hope another team picks him early, so we don't have to hear his name mentioned ever again.

I second that statement. Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Perry Jones III, and Moultrie I'd all move up for at 16.

Royce White was a sub-50% free throw shooter, wasn't he? And a guy that is supposed to be "the sf/pf version of Rondo," handling the ball...that kind of matters - a lot!
you would move up for perry jones III? Really glad you aernt in charge of our team.

Perry Jones has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He would fit in perfect with Rondo. If there is a situation where he'll reach his full potential, it's in Boston IMO.

I wouldn't want to trade up at all, but if we do I'd rather it be for Jones than Royce White.

http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

Latest nbadraft.net mock has us getting Perry and Terrence Jones.

If that's the case, don't move an inch Danny!
I saw that as well and found it very hard to believe either of those 2 slide to us however if that did happen, I'm agreement -->snag them immediately

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I don't understand the love for Moultrie on this board. His defense is atrocious, he has character questions.. Do you really want a guy like that on this team?

One more thing, it's seems like you all forget that Doc doesn't play players (especially rookies) who can't play D.

You can't teach height or talent.

That's what people here said about Thabeet, who's been declared legally dead - Paddy O'Blount Part Deux - by the league.
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You don't move up for Royce White...he'll be around at 21 if you really want him

I hope another team picks him early, so we don't have to hear his name mentioned ever again.

I second that statement. Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Perry Jones III, and Moultrie I'd all move up for at 16.

Royce White was a sub-50% free throw shooter, wasn't he? And a guy that is supposed to be "the sf/pf version of Rondo," handling the ball...that kind of matters - a lot!
you would move up for perry jones III? Really glad you aernt in charge of our team.

Perry Jones has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He would fit in perfect with Rondo. If there is a situation where he'll reach his full potential, it's in Boston IMO.

I wouldn't want to trade up at all, but if we do I'd rather it be for Jones than Royce White.

http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

Latest nbadraft.net mock has us getting Perry and Terrence Jones.

If that's the case, don't move an inch Danny!
lol dis is da most inaccurate mock draft i done see no way a team like da Wolves take Moe Harkless ova Terrance Jones iont think he falls to us at all

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I don't understand the love for Moultrie on this board. His defense is atrocious, he has character questions.. Do you really want a guy like that on this team?

One more thing, it's seems like you all forget that Doc doesn't play players (especially rookies) who can't play D.

You can't teach height or talent.

That's what people here said about Thabeet, who's been declared legally dead - Paddy O'Blount Part Deux - by the league.


  Thabeet had talent?

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Sully didn't get destroyed by Josh Harrelson. Go rewatch the game. He would instantly upgrade the post offense and rebounding positions. Biggest obstacle would be guarding 4s.

Sully is so good he is not going to the green room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9QEtvxdq4
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Moultrie please...that is who I want to move up to get. Unfortunately I think delusional will move up for White. When DA falls in love he falls hard (see Jeff Green).

what exactly is delusional about Danny Ainge? It appears to me he almost always makes the right decision .

Lets Posey walk- Posey is useless for the last 2 years of his new contract.

Lets Powe Walk- People were angry at Danny for this, but Powe has never regained his early celtics form after multiple knee injuries

Trades Perk for Jeff Green and a 1st- Perk at 8 mil plus is just ridiculous . If Jeff Green comes back healthy(Turiaf  had the same surgery and has played for 5+ years since then), and the c's make even a decent pick(Fab Melo) with # 22 they win this trade hands down .

Trades BBD for Bass: Trades a near 30 mil contract for a 4 mil 1 year deal and better production. We can still use Bass in a s+t or use his free cap space to bring in another player.

The only one you can say that really got away was Tony Allen, but that was more of Tony Allen wanting to step out of the shadow of the big 3 .

He has drafted very well for where he has been picking in the draft. I just don't see how you can hate Danny so much ::)

now, who's being delusional ?

Ainge traded our starting championship center for ZERO. the Celts win the title last season if Danny doesn't rip the team apart with the Perk trade - and if you start quoting stats to measure Perk's value to this Celtics team, then you'll never see why that may have been the worst trade in Celtics history (save for John Y.)
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Moultrie please...that is who I want to move up to get. Unfortunately I think delusional will move up for White. When DA falls in love he falls hard (see Jeff Green).

what exactly is delusional about Danny Ainge? It appears to me he almost always makes the right decision .

Lets Posey walk- Posey is useless for the last 2 years of his new contract.

Lets Powe Walk- People were angry at Danny for this, but Powe has never regained his early celtics form after multiple knee injuries

Trades Perk for Jeff Green and a 1st- Perk at 8 mil plus is just ridiculous . If Jeff Green comes back healthy(Turiaf  had the same surgery and has played for 5+ years since then), and the c's make even a decent pick(Fab Melo) with # 22 they win this trade hands down .

Trades BBD for Bass: Trades a near 30 mil contract for a 4 mil 1 year deal and better production. We can still use Bass in a s+t or use his free cap space to bring in another player.

The only one you can say that really got away was Tony Allen, but that was more of Tony Allen wanting to step out of the shadow of the big 3 .

He has drafted very well for where he has been picking in the draft. I just don't see how you can hate Danny so much ::)

now, who's being delusional ?

Ainge traded our starting championship center for ZERO. the Celts win the title last season if Danny doesn't rip the team apart with the Perk trade - and if you start quoting stats to measure Perk's value to this Celtics team, then you'll never see why that may have been the worst trade in Celtics history (save for John Y.)

Celtics win the title if we have perk? Getting a little ahead of yourself
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Moultrie please...that is who I want to move up to get. Unfortunately I think delusional will move up for White. When DA falls in love he falls hard (see Jeff Green).

what exactly is delusional about Danny Ainge? It appears to me he almost always makes the right decision .

Lets Posey walk- Posey is useless for the last 2 years of his new contract.

Lets Powe Walk- People were angry at Danny for this, but Powe has never regained his early celtics form after multiple knee injuries

Trades Perk for Jeff Green and a 1st- Perk at 8 mil plus is just ridiculous . If Jeff Green comes back healthy(Turiaf  had the same surgery and has played for 5+ years since then), and the c's make even a decent pick(Fab Melo) with # 22 they win this trade hands down .

Trades BBD for Bass: Trades a near 30 mil contract for a 4 mil 1 year deal and better production. We can still use Bass in a s+t or use his free cap space to bring in another player.

The only one you can say that really got away was Tony Allen, but that was more of Tony Allen wanting to step out of the shadow of the big 3 .

He has drafted very well for where he has been picking in the draft. I just don't see how you can hate Danny so much ::)

now, who's being delusional ?

Ainge traded our starting championship center for ZERO. the Celts win the title last season if Danny doesn't rip the team apart with the Perk trade - and if you start quoting stats to measure Perk's value to this Celtics team, then you'll never see why that may have been the worst trade in Celtics history (save for John Y.)


Worst trade in C's history? Not sure about that. If Green comes back this year lets see what the season brings before that argument starts. Not DA's fault Green had a freak health scare.

You can't blame DA for it. Perk turned down a contract, what the C's could give him with out knowing what the CBA was going to do.

So instead of letting Perk walk like Allen, he trades, also knowing there at this point are only 2 centers they really have to worry about. And that the real teams they have to compete with is Miami and Chicago, neither have a legit banging center. So he went for Green know PP is on his way out and they need a big SF for the future to guard Queen James, which he did well against in '11.