Heat Fans Say Games are Fixed

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

Not to be the spoilsport but this goes for people around here as well. It looks just as comical when complaining the game is fixed for The Heat.

There are poorly called NBA games, superstars get calls, I think we can all look at Game 2 and say The Heat benefited from the whistles in that game. But confusing inconsistency and incompetence with grand conspiracy always looks a little foolish.

Complaining about the ref's is a-ok and often deserved, acknowledging when your team gets a break is ok, chalking it all up to being fixed usually sounds a little loony.

[indeedproceed]

Boston Celtic fans have no credibility criticizing another fan base for conspiracy theories. We all need to shut our pie hole on this one.

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

That tech was legit.

  There were multiple plays in the game where the Heat were called for fouls under our basket and bounced the ball like that. Same way the call on Ray was legit, but Heat players that were similarly demonstrative didn't get T-ed up.

No, nobody spiked the ball as hard as Bass did and allowing it to go as high in the air.

  Because he was in the open court, theirs bounced off the stanchion or the backboard.

No, its because Bass spiked the ball too hard, like a baby, because he was frustrated with himself, and didn't have the awareness needed to know he should have grabbed it on the way back up.

[JBone4eva]

Boston Celtic fans have no credibility criticizing another fan base for conspiracy theories. We all need to shut our pie hole on this one.

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

That tech was legit.

I agree the tech was legit but Lebron did the exact same ball spike last game and didn't even receive a delay of game warning.

[NoraG1]

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So were the 6 called against the C's in game 1

[NoraG1]

Not to be the spoilsport but this goes for people around here as well. It looks just as comical when complaining the game is fixed for The Heat.

There are poorly called NBA games, superstars get calls, I think we can all look at Game 2 and say The Heat benefited from the whistles in that game. But confusing inconsistency and incompetence with grand conspiracy always looks a little foolish.

Complaining about the ref's is a-ok and often deserved, acknowledging when your team gets a break is ok, chalking it all up to being fixed usually sounds a little loony.

It is comical to me those who think the absolutely huge disparity FTs Heat were getting was based on 'incompetance' That game the refs KNEW very well what they were doing. Refs can't be considered just bad when all the calls are for just one team! The rest of the series has been better reffed. But game 2 was stolen in large part by the refs.

[saltlover]

Boston Celtic fans have no credibility criticizing another fan base for conspiracy theories. We all need to shut our pie hole on this one.

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

That tech was legit.

  There were multiple plays in the game where the Heat were called for fouls under our basket and bounced the ball like that. Same way the call on Ray was legit, but Heat players that were similarly demonstrative didn't get T-ed up.

No, nobody spiked the ball as hard as Bass did and allowing it to go as high in the air.

  Because he was in the open court, theirs bounced off the stanchion or the backboard.

No, its because Bass spiked the ball too hard, like a baby, because he was frustrated with himself, and didn't have the awareness needed to know he should have grabbed it on the way back up.

Correct.  If Bass had spiked it and caught it, and then they'd called a T, it would have been a bad call, because players do that all the time with no repercussions.  But whether he spiked it because he was mad at himself, or mad at the call, when the ball goes 10-15 feet in the air, it's a T, be it due to unsportsmanlike conduct or delay of game or whatever.  He earned it.

The Chalmers call may have been phantom at the time it was called, but he earned it in his own way by complaining to the officials more than LeBron.  Earlier in the game I think he was about to get a T, and the ref told him to cool down instead.  But he had lost all benefit of doubt, and so when the ref thought he saw something, he called it, because he'd been inches away from a T all night.  Is it the right call?  Not necessarily.  But Rondo runs into the same problem sometimes by using up goodwill complaining to officials, and then he gets called for an extracurricular shove or semi-kick out of bounds, when these things happen all the time in games or are the second of two actions.

[blink]

Nice comments. I agree with what you said 100%.  I think Chalmers was borderline getting T'd up all night.  He complained about one foul he had when he clearly smacked the hand of the shooter.  I think that when you are complaining all the time about the calls that it doesn't do any good.  The Refs just zone it out, or they have a limit and once you pass that limit it is a T.

I don't believe that the games are fixed, but I believe that sometimes there is direction to watch certain people, and promote certain calls.  Miami fans complaining about it is a bit of a joke though.  Do they not realize how many fouls DW and LJ get away with every game?  They are gifted a lot of non-calls. A whole lot...

Boston Celtic fans have no credibility criticizing another fan base for conspiracy theories. We all need to shut our pie hole on this one.

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

That tech was legit.

  There were multiple plays in the game where the Heat were called for fouls under our basket and bounced the ball like that. Same way the call on Ray was legit, but Heat players that were similarly demonstrative didn't get T-ed up.

No, nobody spiked the ball as hard as Bass did and allowing it to go as high in the air.

  Because he was in the open court, theirs bounced off the stanchion or the backboard.

No, its because Bass spiked the ball too hard, like a baby, because he was frustrated with himself, and didn't have the awareness needed to know he should have grabbed it on the way back up.

Correct.  If Bass had spiked it and caught it, and then they'd called a T, it would have been a bad call, because players do that all the time with no repercussions.  But whether he spiked it because he was mad at himself, or mad at the call, when the ball goes 10-15 feet in the air, it's a T, be it due to unsportsmanlike conduct or delay of game or whatever.  He earned it.

The Chalmers call may have been phantom at the time it was called, but he earned it in his own way by complaining to the officials more than LeBron.  Earlier in the game I think he was about to get a T, and the ref told him to cool down instead.  But he had lost all benefit of doubt, and so when the ref thought he saw something, he called it, because he'd been inches away from a T all night.  Is it the right call?  Not necessarily.  But Rondo runs into the same problem sometimes by using up goodwill complaining to officials, and then he gets called for an extracurricular shove or semi-kick out of bounds, when these things happen all the time in games or are the second of two actions.

[angryguy77]

Boston Celtic fans have no credibility criticizing another fan base for conspiracy theories. We all need to shut our pie hole on this one.

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

That tech was legit.

Believe it or not, I didn't see the ball get away from him. But I will say that the heat were getting away with some crap too last night.

Miami fans have nothing to complain about seeing they have 2 players that get the benefit of the doubt most of the time they drive to the rim. What's funny is that they see a screw job where most neutral fans would agree the game was called decently. What this tells me is that they are used to seeing a lot of bs go their way and when it doesn't, they call shenanigans. They're accustomed to being coddled.

Chalmers T was not a call that's indicative of how the game was called overall(not saying you believe that). Even if we were favored, the heat could have still won the game. Unlike game 2, they wouldn't have needed a near perfect game to overcome the perceived disparity.

[pearljammer10]

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

I agree. I think the only time players should be called a technical is if they get in the refs face or curses them out

It is unfortunate that you don't run the league.

[vinnie]

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

Both techs called last night were awful. And, no tech called when Wade bounced the ball into the crowd after he was called for a foul.

[Junkyard Dawg]

Check box scores.  Last night was the first game the Celts had more FTA than the Heat, and it was 2 more.  Every other game has been even or in favor of the Heat, including about 20 more FTA's in game 2.

I think when we talk about our surprise about how "evenly" the games have been officiated, it just means we're grateful that LeBron and Wade haven't been going to the line 30 times each.  I don't know if that should be considered "even".

[Quetzalcoatl]

I thought they said "Good job!  Good effort!"

[guava_wrench]

I was reading the Miami board on Realgm and some fans were saying that the reason they are losing is because the games are fixed.  Are you kidding me!  Heat fans talking about fixed games?

It is just as reasonable as Celtics fans complaining.

I take them as seriously as I take the conspiracy theorists on here.

[guava_wrench]

Boston Celtic fans have no credibility criticizing another fan base for conspiracy theories. We all need to shut our pie hole on this one.

Don't think it was fixed but that tech on Chalmers in that moment was AWFUL.

So was the foul and T on Bass

That tech was legit.

  There were multiple plays in the game where the Heat were called for fouls under our basket and bounced the ball like that. Same way the call on Ray was legit, but Heat players that were similarly demonstrative didn't get T-ed up.

No, nobody spiked the ball as hard as Bass did and allowing it to go as high in the air.

  Because he was in the open court, theirs bounced off the stanchion or the backboard.

No, its because Bass spiked the ball too hard, like a baby, because he was frustrated with himself, and didn't have the awareness needed to know he should have grabbed it on the way back up.

Correct.  If Bass had spiked it and caught it, and then they'd called a T, it would have been a bad call, because players do that all the time with no repercussions.  But whether he spiked it because he was mad at himself, or mad at the call, when the ball goes 10-15 feet in the air, it's a T, be it due to unsportsmanlike conduct or delay of game or whatever.  He earned it.

The Chalmers call may have been phantom at the time it was called, but he earned it in his own way by complaining to the officials more than LeBron.  Earlier in the game I think he was about to get a T, and the ref told him to cool down instead.  But he had lost all benefit of doubt, and so when the ref thought he saw something, he called it, because he'd been inches away from a T all night.  Is it the right call?  Not necessarily.  But Rondo runs into the same problem sometimes by using up goodwill complaining to officials, and then he gets called for an extracurricular shove or semi-kick out of bounds, when these things happen all the time in games or are the second of two actions.

Rondo also tends to complain in a way that very insulting, unlike the diplomatic way Ray does.

[guava_wrench]

We got two big breaks in the fourth quarter so its only natural.

1. Chalmers technical

2. Pierce appeared to carry the ball on a drive to the hoop in an awkward way that often will get called. (I didn't watch the replay though)

We see the exact same chatter here after the C's lose in similar circumstances.

How about Haslem when he got his hand on that inbounds play, he was all over KG grabbing his shoulder but sometimes those aren't called thank god for that whistle because that could have cost us the game

This is the point to be made. Celtics fans tend to just see what hurts their team, Heat fans see what hurts their team.

This is why complaining about refs calling things imbalanced tends to be such nonsense. People see what their brain latches on to and the filters that control this are very biased. This has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or even integrity. It is just how our brains work. Integrity only comes into play when we understand that our brains are like this but make no attempts to control for it.