Author Topic: I don't want Bass back  (Read 27727 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2012, 01:21:45 PM »

Offline scaryjerry

  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3836
  • Tommy Points: 232
Jeff green is a more athletic, longer, higher jumper , and a get your own shot capable player.  Unproven in the playoffs, but I feel he needs a solid year to work in the system.

Wilcox can out work Bass 6 to 1  ,was just comming into his own as a CELTIC....and doing very well,  rebounding , hustle, blocking shots, running the court. Bacically all the thing we want Brandon to do , and he has done very little of in the playoffs.

Bass has been  standing around looking sort of lost IMO.    Not that I  thought that in the regular season .

Anyway time for Bass to wake up !! Its playoff time !!

Yep, the smaller 76ers would seem to be a chance for Bass to shine. Block em out and "REBOUND"

I dont have a problem with the Jeff green opinion( although im not sure youre right that he can get his own shot, is longer, hes actually the same height and played in the regular season like bass has struggled in the playoffs) but the Wilcox one is absurd...Wilcox could not start over Brandon Bass just this season when he was healthy and has been injury prone and unimpressive for 10 years in the league now....give me bass over wilcox any and everyday

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2012, 01:30:53 PM »

Offline KGs Knee

  • Frank Ramsey
  • ************
  • Posts: 12765
  • Tommy Points: 1546
Well, apparently having a good regular season and then falling off in the playoffs has been Bass' M.O..  Happened in both Dallas and Orlando.

I think with how little most Celtics' fans knew of Bass, this ended up being overlooked.  Everyone just assumed since he played so well in his role during the regular season, it would continue in the playoffs.  I am guilty as well.

Ultimately, this is partly why Bass is best suited to be a backup PF.  Relying on a one-dimensional player eventually comes back to bite you (not that the C's had much choice).

As far as retaining Bass for future seasons, I think it depends on dollars and role.  I do not want him back at big money or as a starter.  As a bench PF for similar money to what he was making this season, I'd take him back.

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2012, 02:25:45 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

  • NCE
  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11833
  • Tommy Points: 950
I can't find any quote right now to support it, but I was under the impression that Bass was a guy who could be at least a borderline starter in the NBA, but accepts coming off the bench.  It's useful to have someone good enough to start on some teams but who have an attitude problem about being a non-starter.

I could see Bass in the role of nominal starter who gets 20-25 mpg, but who doesn't play at the end of games that much because he is replaced by either a defensive specialist or Doc goes with a smallball lineup (if Ainge can find the right combo forward, Jeff Green or not, who can play that role).  $4-5m/year would not necessarily be a bad deal for that kind of role player.
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2012, 03:03:28 PM »

Offline Senninsage

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 725
  • Tommy Points: 112
Listen, Bass did his job early in the game to get us off to a great start. So, he started missing some shots that we all feel he should have made. However, he isn't the only one to blame for that situation. We neglected to establish KG's post game until later. And please don't blame Bass for us going cold in the 3rd quarter.

I also firmly think that if Bradley doesn't go out for the entire 3rd quarter, we win game 2, and aren't even having this discussion.

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2012, 03:04:56 PM »

Offline thestackshow

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1349
  • Tommy Points: 112
I just dont understand what happened.

He couldnt miss a shot in the regular season, but in the playoffs all the sudden he cant make one.

Its a slump and nothing more, once he breaks out of this slump we will be right in the finals.
[img width= height=]http://oi43.tinypic.com/2afde6p.jpg[/img]

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2012, 03:37:23 PM »

Offline Bankshot

  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7540
  • Tommy Points: 632
I just dont understand what happened.

He couldnt miss a shot in the regular season, but in the playoffs all the sudden he cant make one.

Its a slump and nothing more, once he breaks out of this slump we will be right in the finals.

If what Kgs Knee said is true, and I do remember hearing something about Bass being a poor playoff performer for Orlando, then it is more than a slump, it's a pattern.
"If somebody would have told you when he was playing with the Knicks that Nate Robinson was going to change a big time game and he was going to do it mostly because of his defense, somebody would have got slapped."  Mark Jackson

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2012, 03:43:22 PM »

Offline thestackshow

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1349
  • Tommy Points: 112
I just dont understand what happened.

He couldnt miss a shot in the regular season, but in the playoffs all the sudden he cant make one.

Its a slump and nothing more, once he breaks out of this slump we will be right in the finals.

If what Kgs Knee said is true, and I do remember hearing something about Bass being a poor playoff performer for Orlando, then it is more than a slump, it's a pattern.

So does he change his form when the playoffs start?

Hes also never been a starter in the playoffs, hes a career bench guy. All he needs to do is hit a few more open jumpers and get 15 a game, we can live with that.
[img width= height=]http://oi43.tinypic.com/2afde6p.jpg[/img]

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2012, 04:09:41 PM »

Offline scaryjerry

  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3836
  • Tommy Points: 232
Well, apparently having a good regular season and then falling off in the playoffs has been Bass' M.O..  Happened in both Dallas and Orlando.

I think with how little most Celtics' fans knew of Bass, this ended up being overlooked.  Everyone just assumed since he played so well in his role during the regular season, it would continue in the playoffs.  I am guilty as well.

Ultimately, this is partly why Bass is best suited to be a backup PF.  Relying on a one-dimensional player eventually comes back to bite you (not that the C's had much choice).

As far as retaining Bass for future seasons, I think it depends on dollars and role.  I do not want him back at big money or as a starter.  As a bench PF for similar money to what he was making this season, I'd take him back.

He didnt get enough minutes in the regular season or playoffs with either team for it to be his M.O to be drop off as a playoff performer...The Magic didnt even play him when they went up against us in the playoffs, and used sparringly in the regular season....I was under the impression wrongly so but who knows

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2012, 05:56:45 PM »

Offline Meadowlark_Scal

  • NCE
  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8193
  • Tommy Points: 670
  • You say when......
Has anyone ever considered that DOC is TELLING bass to take those shots..? I think he is...I'd rather bass take it inside, post, and have kg or hollins or steam go to the other side for the rebound...a much better distribution of our talent....

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2012, 05:58:54 PM »

Offline Meadowlark_Scal

  • NCE
  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8193
  • Tommy Points: 670
  • You say when......
remember,unlike bbd...BASS can elevate and dunk anytime from anywhere...lets use this more...he powers up VERY well..get that man inside....he can rebound...if doc will let him......and we can abuse the smaller sixers inside...kg post, bass rebound, and vice-versa

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2012, 07:01:12 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

  • NCE
  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11833
  • Tommy Points: 950
Has anyone ever considered that DOC is TELLING bass to take those shots..? I think he is...I'd rather bass take it inside, post, and have kg or hollins or steam go to the other side for the rebound...a much better distribution of our talent....

I think the problem is more of Bass missing shots he should take rather than taking shots he shouldn't.
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2012, 08:01:21 PM »

Offline Tr1boy

  • Paul Pierce
  • ***************************
  • Posts: 27260
  • Tommy Points: 867
All he can do is make the mid range jumper. Which is nothing to sneeze at, but a little more would be nice. A little more such are grabbing important rebounds, diving for the ball etc

I can see now why magic fans were enormed with receiving big baby instead

Unless he will sign a deal to play from the bench, i wouldn't bring him back.

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2012, 08:19:22 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

  • Bill Sharman
  • *******************
  • Posts: 19003
  • Tommy Points: 1833
Bass is just in a bit of a funk, shown some good signs lately, so not concerned. He's had a lot of rim-outs.

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2012, 09:51:04 PM »

Offline CelticHooligan3

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1073
  • Tommy Points: 130
Well, apparently having a good regular season and then falling off in the playoffs has been Bass' M.O..  Happened in both Dallas and Orlando.

I think with how little most Celtics' fans knew of Bass, this ended up being overlooked.  Everyone just assumed since he played so well in his role during the regular season, it would continue in the playoffs.  I am guilty as well.

Ultimately, this is partly why Bass is best suited to be a backup PF.  Relying on a one-dimensional player eventually comes back to bite you (not that the C's had much choice).

As far as retaining Bass for future seasons, I think it depends on dollars and role.  I do not want him back at big money or as a starter.  As a bench PF for similar money to what he was making this season, I'd take him back.


Although I'm hopeful he will eventually come around in these playoffs, I think this post by KG's Knee pretty much sums it all up.

However I'll also say he's a shooter so all good shooters know they have to keep taking the open shots because eventually they'll start to fall.

Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2012, 09:08:13 AM »

Offline jdz101

  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3171
  • Tommy Points: 404
Man....we spend the scraps of our salary cap on players and you guys expect them to be consistent double-double machines.

Both the ex Orlando guys have been magnificent this year for what we paid. Bass has destroyed Baby this year in almost every facet of the game.


how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck was chris bosh?