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Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2012, 10:19:54 PM »

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Bass had a career game.  One game.

How many times did we have to hear them say that Tony Delk once scored 40-something?  He was still a role player and marginal starter.  Ditto for Bass.

Bass is a role player, yes.  However, we shouldn't minimize his contributions; he's had three pretty good games in a row, including his outstanding Game 5.


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Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2012, 10:33:44 PM »

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Bass had a career game.  One game.

How many times did we have to hear them say that Tony Delk once scored 40-something?  He was still a role player and marginal starter.  Ditto for Bass.

Bass is a role player, yes.  However, we shouldn't minimize his contributions; he's had three pretty good games in a row, including his outstanding Game 5.

Must admit to not watching the game, but...

taking out the big 3rd, or if his scoring in that quarter was similar to the rest of the game, the numbers look like it would've been a pretty average Bass game, true?  He didn't suddenly learn how to create shots for himself like an oversized Kobe or something, right?

He's surely lining himself up for a nice paycheck and a chance to be the next terrible contract...on a terrible team, most likely.  Danny shouldn't be in a hurry to break down his door on July 1.

But that's just one guy's opinion, of course.

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« Reply #92 on: May 22, 2012, 10:36:06 PM »

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Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #93 on: May 22, 2012, 10:44:44 PM »

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Bass had a career game.  One game.

How many times did we have to hear them say that Tony Delk once scored 40-something?  He was still a role player and marginal starter.  Ditto for Bass.

Bass is a role player, yes.  However, we shouldn't minimize his contributions; he's had three pretty good games in a row, including his outstanding Game 5.

Must admit to not watching the game, but...

taking out the big 3rd, or if his scoring in that quarter was similar to the rest of the game, the numbers look like it would've been a pretty average Bass game, true?  He didn't suddenly learn how to create shots for himself like an oversized Kobe or something, right?

He's surely lining himself up for a nice paycheck and a chance to be the next terrible contract...on a terrible team, most likely.  Danny shouldn't be in a hurry to break down his door on July 1.

But that's just one guy's opinion, of course.

I'd love to bring Brandon Bass back, but if anyone is offering him more than six or seven million dollars a year then I can only say, "good luck to ya, Brandon."
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Re: I don't want Bass back
« Reply #94 on: May 22, 2012, 10:50:50 PM »

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Bass had a career game.  One game.

How many times did we have to hear them say that Tony Delk once scored 40-something?  He was still a role player and marginal starter.  Ditto for Bass.

Bass is a role player, yes.  However, we shouldn't minimize his contributions; he's had three pretty good games in a row, including his outstanding Game 5.

Must admit to not watching the game, but...

taking out the big 3rd, or if his scoring in that quarter was similar to the rest of the game, the numbers look like it would've been a pretty average Bass game, true?  He didn't suddenly learn how to create shots for himself like an oversized Kobe or something, right?

He's surely lining himself up for a nice paycheck and a chance to be the next terrible contract...on a terrible team, most likely.  Danny shouldn't be in a hurry to break down his door on July 1.

But that's just one guy's opinion, of course.

I'd love to bring Brandon Bass back, but if anyone is offering him more than six or seven million dollars a year then I can only say, "good luck to ya, Brandon."

That's even a bit much for me.

Being undersized and having a pretty limited (though well developed) skillset, I'd rather have him off the bench.  $5M would be a stretch.  I don't think there are any contenders that could pay more than the mini-MLE of $3M, so I'd set the ceiling at $5M, but really want to pay less than that.

He's just not the type of player that smart teams commit long term, big money to.

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« Reply #95 on: May 22, 2012, 11:10:14 PM »

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Bass has had 3 good shooting games in a row..sure he's a roleplayer and we shouldnt expect 27ppg all the time but getting 12ppg out of him(which he averaged during the season) is big for us offensively because there's another option when teams key in on the big 4. He takes it strong inside and has a nice jumper

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« Reply #96 on: May 22, 2012, 11:28:38 PM »

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Bass has had 3 good shooting games in a row..sure he's a roleplayer and we shouldnt expect 27ppg all the time but getting 12ppg out of him(which he averaged during the season) is big for us offensively because there's another option when teams key in on the big 4. He takes it strong inside and has a nice jumper

Exactly.  That's not worth $7-8M long term.  The list of journeyman PF's who can do that isn't that short.  Wilcox looked good and came here for one year, $3M, after all.

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« Reply #97 on: May 23, 2012, 01:09:15 AM »

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If Bass doesn't exercise his player option and Ainge is interested in retaining his services, I think the main point of contention is going to be more about the length of the contract and how much is guaranteed than the dollars per year.  Perhaps Bass would prefer four years and $20m elsewhere to two years and $12m in Boston.  Don't get hung up on the dollar amounts.  My point is, whatever you think Bass is worth for a two-year contract in Boston, imagine him maybe preferring a million less per year for a four-year deal elsewhere where he thinks he will have a defined, stable role.

Whatever you think is a good value for Bass on a four-year deal that you would love to see the Celtics sign him to, I can see Ainge saying no on a guaranteed fourth year and holding firm even if it means Bass walks with the team getting nothing in return.
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« Reply #98 on: May 23, 2012, 05:23:39 AM »

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If Bass doesn't exercise his player option and Ainge is interested in retaining his services, I think the main point of contention is going to be more about the length of the contract and how much is guaranteed than the dollars per year.  Perhaps Bass would prefer four years and $20m elsewhere to two years and $12m in Boston.  Don't get hung up on the dollar amounts.  My point is, whatever you think Bass is worth for a two-year contract in Boston, imagine him maybe preferring a million less per year for a four-year deal elsewhere where he thinks he will have a defined, stable role.

Whatever you think is a good value for Bass on a four-year deal that you would love to see the Celtics sign him to, I can see Ainge saying no on a guaranteed fourth year and holding firm even if it means Bass walks with the team getting nothing in return.

I just can't remember where I saw and heard it but Bass said he's done becoming a 2 year player (2 years in NO/OKC, Dallas, Orlando) and he wants to be here for a long time.

I doubt he'll be asking for too much as long as he gets the stability that he's asking for.
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« Reply #99 on: May 23, 2012, 10:46:58 AM »

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I doubt he'll be asking for too much as long as he gets the stability that he's asking for.

James Posey, Tony Allen....Ainge ain't the guy who likes to hand players that stability.
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« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2012, 11:10:52 AM »

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James Posey, Tony Allen....Ainge ain't the guy who likes to hand players that stability.
He might for Bass, if the price is right. Bass knows his role, isn't a headcase, doesn't have a checkered injury history, loves the organization.

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« Reply #101 on: May 23, 2012, 11:13:18 AM »

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James Posey, Tony Allen....Ainge ain't the guy who likes to hand players that stability.
He might for Bass, if the price is right. Bass knows his role, isn't a headcase, doesn't have a checkered injury history, loves the organization.


Except that the team is so close to that transition point.  Bass is good for a competitor, but a deal longer then 1 year is not good for a team in transition. 

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« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2012, 11:41:52 AM »

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Except that the team is so close to that transition point.  Bass is good for a competitor, but a deal longer then 1 year is not good for a team in transition. 
It's fine as long as he is not overpaid (which would make his contract impossible to move in a trade). Bass is going to have good value as long as Rondo keeps setting the table for him like he's been doing.

The future of this team is Rondo and Bradley, maybe Jeff Green too. Bass could be a part of that. Hopefully not as a starter, but I'd be perfectly fine with him as our first guy off the bench. I think that the "transition" is going to be more of a "hit the ground running" thing rather than a "suck for a few seasons and draft big" thing. In Ainge We Trust.

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« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2012, 09:15:26 AM »

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James Posey, Tony Allen....Ainge ain't the guy who likes to hand players that stability.
He might for Bass, if the price is right. Bass knows his role, isn't a headcase, doesn't have a checkered injury history, loves the organization.

No, Danny won't.

Danny seems to put the stars in line first, then fills in around them.  Bass will have to wait for Danny to poke around free agency for stars and deals before even talking specifics of a deal. 

Bass will want long-term, and Danny will think about it while other teams make offers that Danny probably wouldn't match.

Bass is a complementary piece and marginal starter (due to size).  He'll be competing for leftovers with other role players.

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« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2012, 11:09:19 AM »

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People that don't want Bass back are forgetting who he is. He is not a go to scorer as doc has tried to make him in his search for more points. Bass has been forced into that role. He is not used to having defenses key on him and cannot pass out of a double team to save his life (no pass Bass). He is good at what he does; but he has obvious limitations. I don't think he gets huge offers from other teams.