Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?

[green7]

instead of draining kg & Bass thru the whole game.

i don't see why hollins and stiemsma, can't be added as PF & C Off the bench from time to time.

Doc is going to need a couple of years before he can trust Hollins in a game.

i bet if hollins was in his mid 30's doc would do it lol.

[OmarSekou]

A lot of people are severely undervaluing Perk. Steimsma has been huge for us this year coming off the bench, but Perk was a quality starter when he was with us.

Also, Stiemsma is a year younger than Perk. He can improve, but I wouldn't assume that he has significant potential beyond what he's showing. He's an NBA newcomer, but a basketball veteran.

It would be great if he could develop into a starter, which I think he can.

[Celtics4ever]

Greg's rookie year was better than Perk but that is moot.   Perk is damaged goods with the knees.   Both ideally are back up centers on a good team.   I was never totally happy with Perk especially on the boards or on offense.  Defense and toughness he had in spades though.

[Tr1boy]

As much as i love perk, Stiesma at times this year has looked better than Perk ever as in his career.

Stiesma is not as strong as Perk, not yet anyways, but i rarely see him get mandled inside.

Also he has a better mid range shot, bc of length and some more speed is a better shot blocker and rebounder, when you see touch passes he makes for example like the one to kg yesterday it proves he has high basketball iq (can't be said about perk).

Perks intimidation and intensity factor is far greater. Not many in the nba can match this. Has shows great leadership also.

But right now i'm enormed by stiesma. Ainge did a super job finding this kid and he fits well with the team. Remember cavs tried him out a year or two ago and waived him fast. Kudos to kg for also working with him. I seriously think we have found our centre for the future to play along bradley and rondo.

[CFAN38]

Stiemsma's potential is slightly less then perks. Perk has dealt with alot of injuries already in his carrier but at his best he is one of the top 3 post defenders in the NBA. Steimsma best skill is his shot blocking but I would take an elite post defender over an elite shot blocker any day.

However i'm a big steimsma fan. I see him at his full potential be a weaker but much more mobile Greg Ostertag.

[Tr1boy]

Stiemsma's potential is slightly less then perks. Perk has dealt with alot of injuries already in his carrier but at his best he is one of the top 3 post defenders in the NBA. Steimsma best skill is his shot blocking but I would take an elite post defender over an elite shot blocker any day.

However i'm a big steimsma fan. I see him at his full potential be a weaker but much more mobile Greg Ostertag.

Perk overachieved ,hard to move and also penetrators were weary to drive in at times, but even at his peak, was never an elite defender in the nba imo. Only about 6'10, long arms but wasn't a very good leaper. Footwork was good but not considered fluid.

When you think of great defenders, guys like kg, olojuwon, David Robinson and Tim Duncan come to mind. And Stiesma has the ingredients similar to what these guys have .

While perk is like a chained rottweiler guardog, Stiesma is  like a Doberman without a leash.

Up to you what kind of defender you want, but Stiesma imo is more versatile. Can guard more areas on the court and temporary different position players effectively

[clover]

As much as i love perk, Stiesma at times this year has looked better than Perk ever as in his career.

Stiesma is not as strong as Perk, not yet anyways, but i rarely see him get mandled inside.

Also he has a better mid range shot, bc of length and some more speed is a better shot blocker and rebounder, when you see touch passes he makes for example like the one to kg yesterday it proves he has high basketball iq (can't be said about perk).

Perks intimidation and intensity factor is far greater. Not many in the nba can match this. Has shows great leadership also.

But right now i'm enormed by stiesma. Ainge did a super job finding this kid and he fits well with the team. Remember cavs tried him out a year or two ago and waived him fast. Kudos to kg for also working with him. I seriously think we have found our centre for the future to play along bradley and rondo.

I agree with you.  I think Danny will add a veteran center and possibly draft a young one too, be Stiemer's likely to be so valuable with this team, especially if KG resigns, that I bet he gets the most minutes at that slot next year.

[Finkelskyhook]

I loved that Stiemsa looked comfortable taking his shot in a big game on the road last night.

[Tr1boy]

I loved that Stiemsa looked comfortable taking his shot in a big game on the road last night.

it was awsome. No hesitation. I rarely seen him miss a jumper so far. Excellent shooter. People state he has a near non existent inside game. But honestly i don't even see him needing one as long as he can shoot the mid range and run the fast break. 

[Fafnir]

Offensively if he can hit that jump shot and continue to hit 70+% of his free throws he'll be a very good option as backup center offensively.

Defensively he's come along nicely and now just needs to avoid the silly fouls he sometimes gets. (its not all rookie hazing he just makes rookie mistakes too)

The only area that's disappointing for me is his defensive rebounding. But overall I'm really pleased with his play since the all-star break.

[the_Bird]

You're not going to get me to say a bad word about Perk, so I'm not going to compare the two players.

Is it my imagination, or does Stiemer look to be more aggressive about using his body to box out than earlier in the year?  Early on, I didn't think much of him because he seemed to play almost timidly, he didn't seem like he was using his size to rebound.  It looks like he's being more aggressive about getting a body on the opponent, it looks like he's holding his ground better.  Rebounding number still aren't great, but it looks like he's getting better.  Am I insane?  Anyone else notice this?

[biggs]

I think the bigger question is "Why haven't we gone to the d league more often"?  

There seems to be a lot of talent there.  Stiesma came out of no where and has done more for us than any rookie has done in years (ps I love our rookies this year). If there is talent out there why haven't we gone to the d-league before, or is Stiesma really a diamond in the rough?

[Smitty77]

As someone else mentioned, Perk will likely be bought out in two years.

Smitty77

[jpd985]

I think the bigger question is "Why haven't we gone to the d league more often"?  

There seems to be a lot of talent there.  Stiesma came out of no where and has done more for us than any rookie has done in years (ps I love our rookies this year). If there is talent out there why haven't we gone to the d-league before, or is Stiesma really a diamond in the rough?

I think both points are right.

[Tr1boy]

I think the bigger question is "Why haven't we gone to the d league more often"?  

There seems to be a lot of talent there.  Stiesma came out of no where and has done more for us than any rookie has done in years (ps I love our rookies this year). If there is talent out there why haven't we gone to the d-league before, or is Stiesma really a diamond in the rough?

Most d leaguers don't pan out in the nba. Guys like Lasme and Miki Moore where defensive players of the year in the d league at one point. Hardly that great defensively when they played in the nba.

Its rare to find a career d leaguer to be able to do well in the nba. Thats why stiesma is such a great find.