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Forget Austin Rivers; we need to go for these guys:
« on: February 22, 2012, 05:21:40 AM »

Offline chambers

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I would never give up both picks to get Rivers.
He's good, but he's got a long way to go and is living off his dads name more than anything.
We wouldn't give two hoots about him if not for the team connection.

I want a big man. I also want a big man that can run with Rondo and Green or whoever they put out there. Now if we somehow manage to scrape together a deal that gives us a 8-13 pick, I want one of these two guys:

1) Perry Jones;
6'11", huge wingspan, athletic as all get out. Incredible athlete. Needs size/strength but this guy can handle rock at almost 7 feet tall. Reminds me a lot of KG in high school around the rim. Doesn't have much of a jumpshot so isn't the biggest threat in the pick and roll, thus losing any comparisons to KG's overall game.
If he could develop a more consistent shot, he would be naassstyy, and he's my number one WANT by far.

high school beating up on shorter, younger punks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quxsxSe1YTo

College:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHFymjyG_0c

Arnett Moultrie: 6' 11" he's ranked going later than Rivers but again, is like Jones with a huge frame, very athletic and hungry on the offensive and defensive boards.
Not the best outside shooter, but goes after the ball and plays hard on the defensive end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drYl3P4omzw


If both guys are gone, I would probably forget any of the other big guys,Maybe Meyers Leonard, but most of these 7 feet white guys are Tyler Hansborough clones and don't have much of a ceiling. In other words, solid role players, but there ain't no Kevin Love's in this draft.

So I'd go after Terence Jones. Very solid small forward prospect at 6' 9". Talent and athleticism to really be a game changer on a young team, can shoot inside and out, can get to the whole, and is in my opinion one of the best passers in the NCAA right now.
high school footage:(beating up on youngsters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtTQV6taV6c&feature=fvst


college:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEIw4qhiFF0

Of course there's the Zeller brothers, Mason Plumlee, as well as John Henson (he's gonna go too high for us).

Our 2013 pick may go higher as our record gets worse so we may be able to combine two picks for a 9-15 pick if we are lucky and get our hands on one of these guys.
Am I missing any realistic big men here?
Feel free to add.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2012, 05:29:12 AM by chambers »
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Re: Forget Austin Rivers; we need to go for these guys:
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 06:09:13 AM »

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while all 3 of those guys could have potentially successful nba careers, I would rather Austin Rivers overall of them. Perry Jones is wildly inconsistent and has no killer instinct whatsoever. He will drop 30 one game and then score 4 points in the next 3 games. Arnett Moultrie looks like he is gonna be a good stretch 4 but if we were drafting a big man, i would most certainly want a guy with post presence, which Moultrie does not currently have. Terrence Jones is the quintessential tweener. He doesnt have the post presence for a 4 and doesnt have the handles for a 3. Of course they could improve on all those things but I would much rather have an excellent driving 2 guard who wants to take game winning shots especially since we will be needing a shooting guard next year.

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 06:18:34 AM »

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while all 3 of those guys could have potentially successful nba careers, I would rather Austin Rivers overall of them. Perry Jones is wildly inconsistent and has no killer instinct whatsoever. He will drop 30 one game and then score 4 points in the next 3 games. Arnett Moultrie looks like he is gonna be a good stretch 4 but if we were drafting a big man, i would most certainly want a guy with post presence, which Moultrie does not currently have. Terrence Jones is the quintessential tweener. He doesnt have the post presence for a 4 and doesnt have the handles for a 3. Of course they could improve on all those things but I would much rather have an excellent driving 2 guard who wants to take game winning shots especially since we will be needing a shooting guard next year.
If we somehow get Howard, then we won't a big man.
If we don't get him, I want big men to run with Rondo and make his life easier.
I don't mind Austin, I just think he's completely overrated by C's fans because of the family link.
The family link is why this would be a bad move in my opinion.
A young kid, his dad forcing him to sit on the pine for longer than he should have.
There are always going to be personal issues coming into the locker room.

Both Jones and Arnett have a giant ceiling, and are athletic has anything. We can make them oversized fours if we must, but they are so athletic that they could become superstars.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 06:25:22 AM »

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All 3 of those guys will make it as NBA players, Jones may even be an allstar.

However I havent seen any of them show that they have "IT". By it I mean that star quality, the ability to be the best player on the court when it matters. Watching duke beat UNC rivers showed it.

I really think this kid is going to be a star.
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Re: Forget Austin Rivers; we need to go for these guys:
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 06:38:15 AM »

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I don't think both Jones will be available for us when it's time for the C's to pick.

Arnett Moultrie on the other hand, is the most reachable selection as he is projected at mid first. He should be the pick. I love how the dude is playing. The kid REBOUNDS. Good post moves. He cuts the lanes hard. He is not a good shot blocker for his size though but heck, id take everything else he does good. Everybody says JJJ can be the next KG, well, Moultrie is far closer to being one.

Problem is, if KG does not hang up his kicks, we'll have a log jam of 4' (KG, Bass, JJJ, and him). But I'd hope to Talos Danny Ainge draft this kid and just figure out the rest later.

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I'm a Perry Jones fan and I'd love to have him in green, but another name you don't mention at all that I'd like very much is Thomas Robinson, what about that?

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I'm a Perry Jones fan and I'd love to have him in green, but another name you don't mention at all that I'd like very much is Thomas Robinson, what about that?

Oh man, i agree. He's gonna be a top 5 pick though so he's too out of reach, like the Jones'. But talk about agressive and back to basket and toughness. Athletic and powerful on the inside. I'd love to have him. Danny can work some magic maybe?
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 07:23:10 AM »

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I'm a Perry Jones fan and I'd love to have him in green, but another name you don't mention at all that I'd like very much is Thomas Robinson, what about that?
I was thinking of guys that we might have a shot at if we combine picks or move Ray+ our pick for a higher pick etc...

Robinson is going top 5 no doubt, even Perry Jones is probably wishful thinking, he's projected #7.

One can dream.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 09:26:29 AM »

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Arnett Moultrie looks like he is gonna be a good stretch 4 but if we were drafting a big man, i would most certainly want a guy with post presence, which Moultrie does not currently have.

How many Mississippi State games have you watched?
He DEFINITELY has a post presence and some nice spin and up and under moves.
He can also run and catch lobs very easily with his reach.

Right now I think we need some bigs to runnnnn.
If Perry Jones was somehow attainable I'd give up anything for him except Rondo-which is a problem in itself.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
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I'd stay as far away from Perry Jones as possible. He is the kind of guy that is bound to bust in the NBA.

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If we trade Rondo for some scoring punch in a deal, I say we draft Kendall Marshall from Carolina, who will be a mid-late 1st round pick if he comes out. Not super athletic but that guy's passing is just unbelievable. Makes his teammates so much better. He'd be like the American Ricky Rubio.

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as far as drafting goes i'd like to see terrance hones & or austin rivers

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My draft Binky, Jae Crowder.

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austin rivers can create his own shot, has a great first step, and has a lot of great moves. not to mention hes quick. he has a lot to like.

youre just a naysayer, they come with greatness.

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My draft Binky, Jae Crowder.

Season averages of 16.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.0 apg, .9 bpg, 2.3 spg 50% fg, 39% 3pt, 76% ft. Last three games versus Cincy, UConn, Rutgers went for 23, 29, 27 respectively. And has Marquette up to #10 in the country.

And to think he will probably be a late first or second round pick is a steal.