Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB H2H League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[barefacedmonk]

Looking to move Lamar Odom and BBD as a package...need a youngish player who can help in the points category. PM if you're interested.

Nobody wants to be a part of "Khloe and Lamar"?!?

...plus you get a free lesson on how to dougie by the very talented Glen Davis.

[hpantazo]

Early reaction: I like the deal most for DD, I like it for Lucky, I don't like it for webskins.

I think Webskins are pushing all their chips to the middle of the table to win now.  Kidd and Turk will help with that, even if downgrading from Bogut to Jordan won't.

I guess I can see that, although I think Turk is cooked and Kidd may even retire if the lockout continues.

[Gainesville Celtic]

Three-team deal to announce:

Webskins send Andrew Bogut, Beno Udrih, Spencer Hawes, Jordan Hill
Webskins receive Deandre Jordan, Hedo Turkoglu, Jason Kidd, Zaza Pachulia, Alonzo Gee

Designated Drinkers send DeAndre Jordan, Richard Jefferson, Kirk Hinrich, Zaza Pachulia, Alonzo Gee, Shaun Livingston
Designated Drinkers receive Andrew Bogut, Beno Udrih, Jordan Hill, Lucky17 2012 2nd rounder

Lucky17 sends Hedo Turkoglu, Jason Kidd, own 2012 2nd rounder
Lucky17 receives Kirk Hinrich, Richard Jefferson, Spencer Hawes, Shaun Livingston

interesting... looks on first glance pretty decent (Drinkers arguably get the best player but no one got fleeced). I'd guess that 80% of those names appear in a PM from one of the 3 GMs to/from me at one point or another  

Okay, I have to ask:  what's the argument that Bogut *isn't* the best player in that deal?

haha... there is no argument, but I'd only seen the deal for 3 mins, so I felt it necessary to qualify.

I don't value them as much but others are higher on Kidd and Jordan (well and Alonzo Gee  ) and are thus the 2 guys that, for very different reasons, could be in the conversation if you were arguing.... but I'm not 

[celtsrp33]

Looking to move player(s) for a pick or picks or to do a multiple player for one player deal in order to cut down my roster a bit.  Here are my "most available" guys...

Marshon Brooks
Anthony Morrow
Metta World Peace
Jermaine O'Neal
Kevin Garnett
Nenad Krstic
Timofey Mozgov
Al Thornton
Jeremy Tyler
Bismack Biyombo
Nicola Vucevic
Marreese Speights
Tyler Honeycutt

[Lucky17]

Another (smaller) deal to confirm:

Lucky17 trades Nick Collison
Toine's Boys trades Rondo2287's 2012 2nd rounder

[Kane3387]

Looking to package Deandre Jordan and MMSB 2nd rounder for an upgrade at Center. Teams looking toward building for the future should PM me.

[Lucky17]

Still looking to make a move or two. Anyone on this list could be available, although I doubt I'd find a deal involving Ridnour or Hinrich that would work for me:

Luke Ridnour
Kirk Hinrich
Mario Chalmers
Goran Dragic
Tracy McGrady
Thabo Sefolosha
Richard Jefferson
Joel Przybilla
Yi Jianlian
Sam Young
Shaun Livingston

[barefacedmonk]

I'm looking to move any of these or a combination of these players and pick for a PG and a young-er/ish guy to help with the points category.

Lamar Odom
Glen Davis
Andrew Bynum
Beno Udrih
Jose Barea
Udonis Haslem
Shawne Williams
Dante Cunningham
Jordan Hill
Courtney Lee
Reggie Evans

Pick: Lucky17's #2.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Early reaction: I like the deal most for DD, I like it for Lucky, I don't like it for webskins.

That's my initial reaction too. But because I'm the league grinch I'll add - since when are three way trades allowed?

[The Walker Wiggle]

Another (smaller) deal to confirm:

Lucky17 trades Nick Collison
Toine's Boys trades Rondo2287's 2012 2nd rounder

This guy was just the centerpiece of a six player deal?!

[mkogav]

Early reaction: I like the deal most for DD, I like it for Lucky, I don't like it for webskins.

That's my initial reaction too. But because I'm the league grinch I'll add - since when are three way trades allowed?

There have always been three-way trades. While in the Y!, the deals are staggered b/c the trades must be separate. However, with our extended time in CB threads, three-way trades are easier.

In the very first season, pre-H2H, I was a part of what may be the first three-teamer. All I remember is that I ended up with Big Z. I may have traded Richard Hamilton as my part of the deal, but I don't remember much more than that.

Also, last year in the points league, Pittsburgh Pisces swung a sweet Jeff Green for Chris Kaman for Gortat deal.

Mk

[Gainesville Celtic]

Early reaction: I like the deal most for DD, I like it for Lucky, I don't like it for webskins.

That's my initial reaction too. But because I'm the league grinch I'll add - since when are three way trades allowed?

There have always been three-way trades. While in the Y!, the deals are staggered b/c the trades must be separate. However, with our extended time in CB threads, three-way trades are easier.

In the very first season, pre-H2H, I was a part of what may be the first three-teamer. All I remember is that I ended up with Big Z. I may have traded Richard Hamilton as my part of the deal, but I don't remember much more than that.

Also, last year in the points league, Pittsburgh Pisces swung a sweet Jeff Green for Chris Kaman for Gortat deal.

Mk

4-team trade! 4-team trade! Do it! Do it!

[mkogav]

Since it looks like 12/1 is the cut-down date. I have two players available for 2012 second rounders:

Chandler Parsons
Dominique Jones

For a 2012 first rounder:

Samardo Samuels


Mk

[Lucky17]

Another trade to announce:

Lucky17 trades Joel Przybilla, Sam Young, Tracy McGrady, and the Naturals' 2012 2nd rounder
Webskins trade Mickael Pietrus and Francisco Garcia

[Lucky17]

And another:

Birdman trades Tyson Chandler
Webskins trade DeAndre Jordan and Alonzo Gee