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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1620 on: July 30, 2011, 06:52:44 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?
I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

That's what got me thinking. I was thinking: How good is this team without LeBron? There will be a giant gaping hole at the SF position, but how bad would they really be? What would that even look like?
Lot of teams out there like that.

Miami without Carmelo
New Jersey and Durant
Orlando and Paul
Dallas and Howard
San Antonio and Westbrook
OKC and Kobe
GSW and Dirk
Philly and Wade

You start saying that I'm evaluating this team based on _________ __________ finally having a season ending injury because he's due and where does it end?

No team, real or fantasy, is ever going to be any good if you take away their superstar.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1621 on: July 30, 2011, 06:54:10 PM »

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For some reason i couldnt send the ballots i am sending them to Roy hope he can


If not feel free to ignore my vote

I dont know if theyre complete
I am king of extremely tired...


Saludos and ty Roy

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1622 on: July 30, 2011, 06:55:24 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?
I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

That's what got me thinking. I was thinking: How good is this team without LeBron? There will be a giant gaping hole at the SF position, but how bad would they really be? What would that even look like?
Lot of teams out there like that.

Miami without Carmelo
New Jersey and Durant
Orlando and Paul
Dallas and Howard
San Antonio and Westbrook
OKC and Kobe
GSW and Dirk
Philly and Wade

You start saying that I'm evaluating this team based on _________ __________ finally having a season ending injury because he's due and where does it end?

No team, real or fantasy, is ever going to be any good if you take away their superstar.

I agree.

"You've gotta respect a 15-percent 3-point shooter. A guy
like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1623 on: July 30, 2011, 07:16:06 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?

I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

Nick, settle for being the consensus favorite.  ;) Why the need for unanimous praise?

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Looks like Joe Johnson, Nene, Lamarcus Aldridge, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Chauncey Billups, Josh Smith, Kenyon Martin and Dwyane Wade are all missing the playoffs for the first time in a while.

It isn't a very interesting or influential argument in a full redraft league. Did you leave Kobe and Rondo out of the playoffs? Manu? Or Pau? How did you even put your list together? And anyway wasn't one of the motivating factors in caping the league at twenty-four teams to reduce the impact of superstars?Followed by everyone voting in favor of superstars?

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1624 on: July 30, 2011, 07:26:04 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?

I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

Nick, settle for being the consensus favorite.  ;) Why the need for unanimous praise?



Oh it doesn't bother me I was just wondering what the logic behind the decision to put what are considered some of the consensus best teams towards the end of your rankings.

If it is no more than I hate LeBron and Wade and whoever else, I can respect that. Heck, I'm going to have to take a shower after every post I write defending LeBron next week because it makes me feel dirty to do it.

But I respect your basketball knowledge and your eye for putting talent together and I was just wondering what it was about the 76ers and Kings that made you rank them so low.

I'm sure it wasn't just to be contrary to the consensus.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1625 on: July 30, 2011, 07:27:48 PM »

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And anyway wasn't one of the motivating factors in caping the league at twenty-four teams to reduce the impact of superstars?Followed by everyone voting in favor of superstars?

Well I don't think that's fair (and the 24 team thing had nothing to do with it either. It was about GM participation.)

The implication there is that Nick's team, and the praise that has followed it is a product of draft position. But, I think nick and rondo have together assembled a heck of a team, and that's not easy to do with the modified snake.

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« Reply #1626 on: July 30, 2011, 08:14:35 PM »

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Eastern Conference:
Nets
76ers
Pacers
Knicks
Celtics
Bucks
Bulls
Magic
Pistons
Heat
Hawks
 

Western Conference
Kings
Grizzlies
Trailblazers
Jazz
Warriors
Nuggets
Spurs
Suns
Thunder
Cavaliers
Lakers
Hornets

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1627 on: July 30, 2011, 08:30:25 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?
I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

That's what got me thinking. I was thinking: How good is this team without LeBron? There will be a giant gaping hole at the SF position, but how bad would they really be? What would that even look like?
Lot of teams out there like that.

Miami without Carmelo
New Jersey and Durant
Orlando and Paul
Dallas and Howard
San Antonio and Westbrook
OKC and Kobe
GSW and Dirk
Philly and Wade

You start saying that I'm evaluating this team based on _________ __________ finally having a season ending injury because he's due and where does it end?

No team, real or fantasy, is ever going to be any good if you take away their superstar.
I don't think Philly would be in as bad of a shape as the other teams you listed.  Iguodala lead a much worse defense to 41 wins, and West is better than Brand.  Barbosa can replace some of the offense lost with Wade out.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1628 on: July 30, 2011, 08:32:05 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?

I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

Nick, settle for being the consensus favorite.  ;) Why the need for unanimous praise?

Looks like Joe Johnson, Nene, Lamarcus Aldridge, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Chauncey Billups, Josh Smith, Kenyon Martin and Dwyane Wade are all missing the playoffs for the first time in a while.

It isn't a very interesting or influential argument in a full redraft league. Did you leave Kobe and Rondo out of the playoffs? Manu? Or Pau? How did you even put your list together? And anyway wasn't one of the motivating factors in caping the league at twenty-four teams to reduce the impact of superstars?Followed by everyone voting in favor of superstars?
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As much as I like being ranked 4th ( ???) in the east, this list makes no sense. Unless it's a joke, then never mind.
The Nets will finish with the worst record and the Celtics will end up with the 4th pick.

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1629 on: July 30, 2011, 08:40:35 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?

I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

Nick, settle for being the consensus favorite.  ;) Why the need for unanimous praise?

Looks like Joe Johnson, Nene, Lamarcus Aldridge, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Chauncey Billups, Josh Smith, Kenyon Martin and Dwyane Wade are all missing the playoffs for the first time in a while.

It isn't a very interesting or influential argument in a full redraft league. Did you leave Kobe and Rondo out of the playoffs? Manu? Or Pau? How did you even put your list together? And anyway wasn't one of the motivating factors in caping the league at twenty-four teams to reduce the impact of superstars?Followed by everyone voting in favor of superstars?

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I had Manu first in the West, Pau isn't a superstar/was playing out of position, and Kobe/Rondo didn't have enough of a supporting cast to contradict the horrible fit between them.

Basically my point was those guys lead crap to the playoffs every year, so for some of them to miss the playoffs is very uncharacteristic.  And some of them have better supporting casts in this league then they've ever seen.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1630 on: July 30, 2011, 08:43:27 PM »

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When is LeBron James going to have a season-ending injury?

He's due, right?
I think that must be what The Walker Wiggle is thinking ;D

That's what got me thinking. I was thinking: How good is this team without LeBron? There will be a giant gaping hole at the SF position, but how bad would they really be? What would that even look like?
Lot of teams out there like that.

Miami without Carmelo
New Jersey and Durant
Orlando and Paul
Dallas and Howard
San Antonio and Westbrook
OKC and Kobe
GSW and Dirk
Philly and Wade

You start saying that I'm evaluating this team based on _________ __________ finally having a season ending injury because he's due and where does it end?

No team, real or fantasy, is ever going to be any good if you take away their superstar.
I don't think Philly would be in as bad of a shape as the other teams you listed.  Iguodala lead a much worse defense to 41 wins, and West is better than Brand.  Barbosa can replace some of the offense lost with Wade out.
Maybe not but you definitely go from top contender to struggling to make the playoffs.

Then again, TWW's ranking had the Sixers 9th in the East so according to his ranking without Wade, your team would probably bottom out in the East. Not in my opinion but maybe in Wiggle's.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1631 on: July 30, 2011, 11:00:18 PM »

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« Reply #1632 on: July 30, 2011, 11:25:20 PM »

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When do the results get posted?

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1633 on: July 30, 2011, 11:33:47 PM »

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When do the results get posted?

Soon I hope, Fafnir was finishing them up earlier tonight.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1634 on: July 30, 2011, 11:34:33 PM »

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I rest my case... ;D

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