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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1560 on: July 29, 2011, 07:58:19 PM »

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Here's my opinion on the rankings. I am still attempting to get a hold of Rondo to put in a combined Kings ballot and will be waiting until nearly the deadline to submit if I do not hear from him:

East:

9. Boston


The man starting Wes Matthews is putting my player evaluations at 9th.  :o

The hate from someone who's starting Turk  :o

You mean like a playoff team with less overall talent than mine did this past year?  ;D

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1561 on: July 29, 2011, 08:00:26 PM »

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Some teams look like they might not be regular season beasts, but could be playoff monsters.

Chicago comes to mind. So does Philly

Really? Figured Philly would be either 1 or 2 out of the East.

I actually don't think they'll do that well in the regular season. Smells like a 4 seed that no 1 seed wants to see in the second round.

That PF spot is so injury ridden that there's no way they win a lot of games in the regular season.
How so?  West isn't injury-prone.  Neither is Bonner or Splitter.  Kenyon is a backup.  Varejao can play PF.  Brad Miller, who most likely won't even see minutes, was a solid backup for 60 games last year.

In his 7 seasons, west had had two years in which injury kept him under 60 games and this past year he had a season ending injury before the playoffs.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1562 on: July 29, 2011, 08:08:25 PM »

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He's averaged 76 games for the past 4 seasons.

I think you guys are just yanking my chain.  If you don't want to put me 1st that's fine, but don't act like you can justify it.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1563 on: July 29, 2011, 08:13:39 PM »

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Also I think you meant in his 8 seasons he's had 2 seasons in which injuries kept him under 70 games.

Nice try though.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1564 on: July 29, 2011, 08:16:04 PM »

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Eastern Conference
1.New York
2.Philadelphia
3.South Beach
4.Washington
5.Chicago
6.Pawnee
7.New Jersey
8.Orlando
9.Boston
10.El Salvador
11.Detroit
12.Atlanta

Western Conference
1.Sacramento
2.Denver
3.Golden State
4.Utah
5.Memphis
6.Cleveland
7.LA
8.Portland
9.Phoenix
10.OKC
11. Dallas
Wait for it. Wait for it. Can you hear the reaction coming out of Pawnee yet? Here it comes:

Or worse yet, "you put Boston at number 9 when you have player X starting?" lol
The Nets will finish with the worst record and the Celtics will end up with the 4th pick.

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1565 on: July 29, 2011, 08:19:53 PM »

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Also I think you meant in his 8 seasons he's had 2 seasons in which injuries kept him under 70 games.

Nice try though.

Actually you're right about the seasons it is 8. However, in 04/05 he played 30 games and in 06-07 he played 52.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1566 on: July 29, 2011, 08:20:26 PM »

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Eastern Conference
1.New York
2.Philadelphia
3.South Beach
4.Washington
5.Chicago
6.Pawnee
7.New Jersey
8.Orlando
9.Boston
10.El Salvador
11.Detroit
12.Atlanta

Western Conference
1.Sacramento
2.Denver
3.Golden State
4.Utah
5.Memphis
6.Cleveland
7.LA
8.Portland
9.Phoenix
10.OKC
11. Dallas
Wait for it. Wait for it. Can you hear the reaction coming out of Pawnee yet? Here it comes:

Or worse yet, "you put Boston at number 9 when you have player X starting?" lol


Me thinks you don't get the Wes Matthews joke.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1567 on: July 29, 2011, 08:23:47 PM »

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Also I think you meant in his 8 seasons he's had 2 seasons in which injuries kept him under 70 games.

Nice try though.

Actually you're right about the seasons it is 8. However, in 04/05 he played 30 games and in 06-07 he played 52.
But for the other 6 he played more than 70.  Not injury-prone.

And he'll have the entire season to return to pre-injury form.  Between the quality and depth I've got in my bigs, I really don't see an issue.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

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« Reply #1568 on: July 29, 2011, 08:24:47 PM »

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Eastern Conference
1.New York
2.Philadelphia
3.South Beach
4.Washington
5.Chicago
6.Pawnee
7.New Jersey
8.Orlando
9.Boston
10.El Salvador
11.Detroit
12.Atlanta

Western Conference
1.Sacramento
2.Denver
3.Golden State
4.Utah
5.Memphis
6.Cleveland
7.LA
8.Portland
9.Phoenix
10.OKC
11. Dallas
Wait for it. Wait for it. Can you hear the reaction coming out of Pawnee yet? Here it comes:

Or worse yet, "you put Boston at number 9 when you have player X starting?" lol


Me thinks you don't get the Wes Matthews joke.

Haven't heard it yet but I love a good joke. As long as it's not one of those lame inside jokes  :)
The Nets will finish with the worst record and the Celtics will end up with the 4th pick.

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1569 on: July 29, 2011, 08:29:50 PM »

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Eastern Conference
1.New York
2.Philadelphia
3.South Beach
4.Washington
5.Chicago
6.Pawnee
7.New Jersey
8.Orlando
9.Boston
10.El Salvador
11.Detroit
12.Atlanta

Western Conference
1.Sacramento
2.Denver
3.Golden State
4.Utah
5.Memphis
6.Cleveland
7.LA
8.Portland
9.Phoenix
10.OKC
11. Dallas
Wait for it. Wait for it. Can you hear the reaction coming out of Pawnee yet? Here it comes:

Or worse yet, "you put Boston at number 9 when you have player X starting?" lol


Me thinks you don't get the Wes Matthews joke.

Haven't heard it yet but I love a good joke. As long as it's not one of those lame inside jokes  :)

It's a pretty lame inside joke.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1570 on: July 29, 2011, 08:30:46 PM »

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Eastern Conference
1.New York
2.Philadelphia
3.South Beach
4.Washington
5.Chicago
6.Pawnee
7.New Jersey
8.Orlando
9.Boston
10.El Salvador
11.Detroit
12.Atlanta

Western Conference
1.Sacramento
2.Denver
3.Golden State
4.Utah
5.Memphis
6.Cleveland
7.LA
8.Portland
9.Phoenix
10.OKC
11. Dallas



If I really hated you I'd have put you 12 out of spite. ;D

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1571 on: July 29, 2011, 08:32:14 PM »

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He's averaged 76 games for the past 4 seasons.

I think you guys are just yanking my chain.  If you don't want to put me 1st that's fine, but don't act like you can justify it.

I don't quite get the David West concern.  Yes, it was an injury, but it was a clean tear with no further ligament / nerve damage.  Those are the types of injuries that guys make full recoveries from all the time.  West has been mostly healthy, especially in recent years.  I don't see him as a huge concern going forward.  He might be rusty in the early going, but by the time the playoffs roll around, he'll be back at 100% strength, I have no doubt.

The following guys missed 17+ games (20%+ of the season) last year:

Eric Gordon
Deron Williams
Rudy Gay
Andrew Bogut
Antwan Jamison
Tyreke Evans
Caron Butler
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Carlos Delfino
Andrew Bynum
Carlos Boozer
Danilo Gallinari
Mo Williams
Baron Davis
Nick Young
Brandon Jennings
Rip Hamilton
Anthony Morrow
Andrei Kirilenko
Marvin Williams

... and a ton more.  Yet, the only guy I'm seeing getting seriously critiqued for injuries is David West.  Is that because he's playing on a top contender in the East?
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1572 on: July 29, 2011, 08:35:01 PM »

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He's averaged 76 games for the past 4 seasons.

I think you guys are just yanking my chain.  If you don't want to put me 1st that's fine, but don't act like you can justify it.

I don't quite get the David West concern.  Yes, it was an injury, but it was a clean tear with no further ligament / nerve damage.  Those are the types of injuries that guys make full recoveries from all the time.  West has been mostly healthy, especially in recent years.  I don't see him as a huge concern going forward.  He might be rusty in the early going, but by the time the playoffs roll around, he'll be back at 100% strength, I have no doubt.

The following guys missed 20+ games last year:

Eric Gordon
Rudy Gay
Antwan Jamison
Tyreke Evans
Caron Butler
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Carlos Delfino
Andrew Bynum
Carlos Boozer
Danilo Gallinari
Mo Williams
Baron Davis

... and a ton more.  Yet, the only guy I'm seeing getting seriously critiqued for injuries is David West.  Is that because he's playing on a top contender in the East?

For me it's three things , Age slowing his recuperation from this injury, Two other major injuries and lastly that his primary back up is Kenyon Martin who is also often injured.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1573 on: July 29, 2011, 08:38:02 PM »

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He's averaged 76 games for the past 4 seasons.

I think you guys are just yanking my chain.  If you don't want to put me 1st that's fine, but don't act like you can justify it.

I don't quite get the David West concern.  Yes, it was an injury, but it was a clean tear with no further ligament / nerve damage.  Those are the types of injuries that guys make full recoveries from all the time.  West has been mostly healthy, especially in recent years.  I don't see him as a huge concern going forward.  He might be rusty in the early going, but by the time the playoffs roll around, he'll be back at 100% strength, I have no doubt.

The following guys missed 20+ games last year:

Eric Gordon
Rudy Gay
Antwan Jamison
Tyreke Evans
Caron Butler
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Carlos Delfino
Andrew Bynum
Carlos Boozer
Danilo Gallinari
Mo Williams
Baron Davis

... and a ton more.  Yet, the only guy I'm seeing getting seriously critiqued for injuries is David West.  Is that because he's playing on a top contender in the East?

For me it's three things , Age slowing his recuperation from this injury, Two other major injuries and lastly that his primary back up is Kenyon Martin who is also often injured.

West's other injuries were in 2005 and 2007, though.  I mean, is Amare particularly injury prone?  He's missed 27+ games three times.


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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1574 on: July 29, 2011, 08:43:56 PM »

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... and a ton more.  Yet, the only guy I'm seeing getting seriously critiqued for injuries is David West.  Is that because he's playing on a top contender in the East?

Last year Yao Ming was the starting center for a second seed team and Greg Oden started for a successful Knicks team that made the postseason without a press conference.

I hated both decisions. But I've since made my peace that injuies are the least managable aspect of CB voting.