2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings

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            PG. Steve Nash  
            SG. Kobe Bryant
            SF. Trevor Ariza
            PF. JJ Hickson
             C. Chris Kaman

Great guards. Good team. Depends on the style though. Nash has to be in an uptempo system. Kaman is not a runner so I think he needs a solid backup that can run. You know maybe like a guy who can help him stunt like his daddy or something. IDK, but he wsa a Center last year and has a good post game. Lol but anyways I think Hickson will play well off Kobe and Nash. It's hard to argue with Kobe and Nash. Kobe has never really played with a pg of that caliber. Definitely a playoff team as of now in my opinion.

Ive always wanted to see Nash play with Josh Smith at the 4.  Trade away Hickson, Kaman, and picks for Josh Smith if possible, then draft whoever at the center and this starting lineup is awesome!

Did I read somebody earlier say they didn't think Kobe and Ariza complement eachother well?  I think that's bogus.  Ariza playing alongside Kobe is what got Ariza is horribly overpaid contract (which even then didn't seem that horrendous!)  They're a great match on the wings.  They can defend anybody, can both shoot, and Kobe can do everything else on offense.  Both great complements to Nash too since they can both shoot and get out and run with him.  And Hickson can get out and run too. 

GET JOSH SMITH PLEASE!  I'll vote for you!

[Edgar]

Again.. Nash and Kobe are great and not old

and better than Deron and Monta after a carrer year

But Jamison and Brand are plain old in positions where you dont
need the movility you need on a guard that nash and kobe ddont have anymore

UN believable

Anti Pandism

[mgent]

I'm putting my team up for criticism/positive feedbacks for everyone.



Atlanta Army Ants:

PG - Rajon Rondo

pass first/assist machine
can create open opportunities for teammates
can't make jumpshots

SG - Caron Butler

good scorer
can make outside shots and drive to the lane
coming off an injury and a little old

SF - Gerald Wallace

GREAT man and help defender
tough and gritty on both ends
has tendency to fall in love with jumpshots, which he's not as good.

PF - Andray Blatche

Big and athletic
has a solid mid range game
poor defense, decision making and WAY poor maturity issues

C - Jermaine O'neal

Tenacious interior defender
Solid post game
Fragile and lost a step or two (or four)

G - Jamal Crawford

can score in bunches
can create own shots
chuckler and tends to shoots ill advised shots


Bring it guys.

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but how is the spacing going to work with your starting lineup?  Neither Butler nor Wallace are a threat from 3.  We already know Rondo's reputation as a space-killer, and that's with two of the best 3pt shooters (including THE best) in the game next to him.

How are Butler and Wallace gonna do what they do best with the defense packing the paint?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'm putting my team up for criticism/positive feedbacks for everyone.



Atlanta Army Ants:

PG - Rajon Rondo

pass first/assist machine
can create open opportunities for teammates
can't make jumpshots

SG - Caron Butler

good scorer
can make outside shots and drive to the lane
coming off an injury and a little old

SF - Gerald Wallace

GREAT man and help defender
tough and gritty on both ends
has tendency to fall in love with jumpshots, which he's not as good.

PF - Andray Blatche

Big and athletic
has a solid mid range game
poor defense, decision making and WAY poor maturity issues

C - Jermaine O'neal

Tenacious interior defender
Solid post game
Fragile and lost a step or two (or four)

G - Jamal Crawford

can score in bunches
can create own shots
chuckler and tends to shoots ill advised shots


Bring it guys.

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but how is the spacing going to work with your starting lineup?  Neither Butler nor Wallace are a threat from 3.  We already know Rondo's reputation as a space-killer, and that's with two of the best 3pt shooters (including THE best) in the game next to him.

How are Butler and Wallace gonna do what they do best with the defense packing the paint?

Caron will play spot up. He can hit threes. Not like Ray but he can. Jamal can come in and do the same. Caron has solid mid range, he can just step a little closer inside the arc and make a shot after Rondo draws the defense. Blatche the cancer has a decent mid range too so as JO so they can pick and pop. Gerald can hit shots outside too. Again, not as good and consistent as Ray and other shooters, but decent enough to give attention.

Outside shooting after a kickout pass is not big of a problem for this team.

[wdleehi]

I will put my incomplete roster up in a moment, but thought I should start on some feedback first.

Washington Bullets   wdleehi
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
SF Danny Granger
C Marcin Gortat, Ryan Anderson
SG
PG Raymond Felton

Needs:  Guards.  Luckily, I have multiple picked out that I like and fit my need and two picks next round.

I liked the Felton selection. I think he'll do well next year in Portland.

I also like your forwards, in Granger and Aldridge.

I think Gortat without Nash loses a lot. He'll rebound and defend for you, but anything more than 8-10 points a night from him will be found money.

I don't believe Anderson can play C. A fine PF option off the bench, though.

He played some backup C last year with the Magic and did OK.


But chances are, he will always be on the court with another player that can play C well (Gortat or Aldridge)

I am only expecting 10-12 out of Gortat at this point, which is fine.  I have plenty of offense at other spots to assure the team scores enough.  He is there to help stop the other team from scoring.

[wdleehi]

I'm putting my team up for criticism/positive feedbacks for everyone.



Atlanta Army Ants:

PG - Rajon Rondo

pass first/assist machine
can create open opportunities for teammates
can't make jumpshots

SG - Caron Butler

good scorer
can make outside shots and drive to the lane
coming off an injury and a little old

SF - Gerald Wallace

GREAT man and help defender
tough and gritty on both ends
has tendency to fall in love with jumpshots, which he's not as good.

PF - Andray Blatche

Big and athletic
has a solid mid range game
poor defense, decision making and WAY poor maturity issues

C - Jermaine O'neal

Tenacious interior defender
Solid post game
Fragile and lost a step or two (or four)

G - Jamal Crawford

can score in bunches
can create own shots
chuckler and tends to shoots ill advised shots


Bring it guys.

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but how is the spacing going to work with your starting lineup?  Neither Butler nor Wallace are a threat from 3.  We already know Rondo's reputation as a space-killer, and that's with two of the best 3pt shooters (including THE best) in the game next to him.

How are Butler and Wallace gonna do what they do best with the defense packing the paint?

Caron will play spot up. He can hit threes. Not like Ray but he can. Jamal can come in and do the same. Caron has solid mid range, he can just step a little closer inside the arc and make a shot after Rondo draws the defense. Blatche the cancer has a decent mid range too so as JO so they can pick and pop. Gerald can hit shots outside too. Again, not as good and consistent as Ray and other shooters, but decent enough to give attention.

Outside shooting after a kickout pass is not big of a problem for this team.

I agree with others.  This team is set up to crash and burn.


There is no space for Rondo to do what makes him great. 

JO, I pray he makes it through a season.


Blatche, least favorite player in the league since he is wasting his talent by being soft and refusing to play defense.



There are some pieces here, but I don't think enough to ever recover from the Gay trade.

[Kane3387]

Well since I gave my 2 cents on some teams, it's only fair that I allow you to do the same. I was not trying to be overly critical of any team, and just give an honest opinion of it. I think the Pacers are number 1 for sure. I think the Warriors are number 2 if they do the right lineup. I think a few teams could be argued as the third best team. That is just my opinion though.

Utah Jazz

SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Pau Gasol
C - Sam Dalembert
SG - 6.7
PG - Andre Miller

Bench - 6.9
Bench - 6.20
Bench - 6.22

Gasol is arguably the most talented player on this team. A perennial All Star but not a #1 guy.
Pierce is a leader, clutch player, and warrior. He is my captain. Yet, he can't do it alone but with Gasol I get an All Star Big and Pierce an All Star Wing. They compliment each other nicely.

Dalembert will get more minutes and I expect his number to go up as a result. At 24 mpg he got 8 and 8 last year. I am looking for blocks, double doubles, and a guy to finish lobs. He along with Gasol provide a lot of length.

Miller is a solid pg. He will never get rattled and almost always make the correct play. He doesn't shoot the three well but he has a great post game and great court awareness and vision.

The next round is big for me. It will set up my key 8 man playoff rotation. My team is being built for the playoffs. They are a veteran group that will play very well in the halfcourt and no moment will ever be too big for them.

I like your Pierce-Gasol duo.  They are both very talen ted offensively, both solid defensively, and a good fit alongside eachother.

I like Dalembert as a center for this team since you won't need much offense from there, similar to the '08-'10 celtics.

I don't like Andre Miller as a fit for this team.  Yes, he's solid.  But he likes to run the fast break and I don't see a SG yet and Pierce is solid, yet pretty average, on the break.  I think a pick and roll PG would be a fantastic guy to put alongside Pau.

Here's my thinking. I expect my team to play at a faster pace then Portland did last year. Also pierce might not be a high flyer but he can finish on the break. I mean doc is always wanting the team to run. Dalembert can run and is agile, he can finish on the break. I like him with miller. They were good in Philly.

[Edgar]

Well since I gave my 2 cents on some teams, it's only fair that I allow you to do the same. I was not trying to be overly critical of any team, and just give an honest opinion of it. I think the Pacers are number 1 for sure. I think the Warriors are number 2 if they do the right lineup. I think a few teams could be argued as the third best team. That is just my opinion though.

Utah Jazz

SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Pau Gasol
C - Sam Dalembert
SG - 6.7
PG - Andre Miller

Bench - 6.9
Bench - 6.20
Bench - 6.22

Gasol is arguably the most talented player on this team. A perennial All Star but not a #1 guy.
Pierce is a leader, clutch player, and warrior. He is my captain. Yet, he can't do it alone but with Gasol I get an All Star Big and Pierce an All Star Wing. They compliment each other nicely.

Dalembert will get more minutes and I expect his number to go up as a result. At 24 mpg he got 8 and 8 last year. I am looking for blocks, double doubles, and a guy to finish lobs. He along with Gasol provide a lot of length.

Miller is a solid pg. He will never get rattled and almost always make the correct play. He doesn't shoot the three well but he has a great post game and great court awareness and vision.

The next round is big for me. It will set up my key 8 man playoff rotation. My team is being built for the playoffs. They are a veteran group that will play very well in the halfcourt and no moment will ever be too big for them.

I like your Pierce-Gasol duo.  They are both very talen ted offensively, both solid defensively, and a good fit alongside eachother.

I like Dalembert as a center for this team since you won't need much offense from there, similar to the '08-'10 celtics.

I don't like Andre Miller as a fit for this team.  Yes, he's solid.  But he likes to run the fast break and I don't see a SG yet and Pierce is solid, yet pretty average, on the break.  I think a pick and roll PG would be a fantastic guy to put alongside Pau.

Here's my thinking. I expect my team to play at a faster pace then Portland did last year. Also pierce might not be a high flyer but he can finish on the break. I mean doc is always wanting the team to run. Dalembert can run and is agile, he can finish on the break. I like him with miller. They were good in Philly.

I DO like your PG more

I thing hes still one of the most underrated players in the league


Good pick and I really like the core
other than Sammy. never been a fan
SG is deep so your ok there
the only worry is at center but sam do
the job ok when HE wants

[GaBerkowitz]

Memphis Grizzlies

PG: Derrick Rose
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: Kris Humphries
C:  Roy Hibbert

I think this team needs some scorers in a big way. D should be pretty good, though hum grids needs to prove it more consistently and tayshaun who knows what he has in the tank. With that being said you got the reigning MVP and Jesus so that's always a good thing in my book. Also I really liked Hibbert in the playoffs last year. He is tougher than people give him credit for.





I really like this team.  Ray give Rose a true 2nd option.  

That front court looks awful familiar.  Looks like two of the guys I picked last year.

[GaBerkowitz]

C - Dwight Howard
PF - Andrea Bargnani/ Carl Landry
SF - Shawn Marion
SG -
PG - Darren Collison


Clearly team is still a work in progress. Bargs is a controversy, ingot it. However I think offensively him and D12 compliment each other amazingly. Also with Marion I have one of the premier lockdown perimeter defenders in the game.  Collison is a bit of a work in progress but he has a high compete level, plays above average d, and has plus penetration skills.

Clearly the backcourt is thin, but I have a bunch of guys pegged that I think can help my team.  Thoughts and opinions? TP's for constructive criticism

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'm putting my team up for criticism/positive feedbacks for everyone.



Atlanta Army Ants:

PG - Rajon Rondo

pass first/assist machine
can create open opportunities for teammates
can't make jumpshots

SG - Caron Butler

good scorer
can make outside shots and drive to the lane
coming off an injury and a little old

SF - Gerald Wallace

GREAT man and help defender
tough and gritty on both ends
has tendency to fall in love with jumpshots, which he's not as good.

PF - Andray Blatche

Big and athletic
has a solid mid range game
poor defense, decision making and WAY poor maturity issues

C - Jermaine O'neal

Tenacious interior defender
Solid post game
Fragile and lost a step or two (or four)

G - Jamal Crawford

can score in bunches
can create own shots
chuckler and tends to shoots ill advised shots


Bring it guys.

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but how is the spacing going to work with your starting lineup?  Neither Butler nor Wallace are a threat from 3.  We already know Rondo's reputation as a space-killer, and that's with two of the best 3pt shooters (including THE best) in the game next to him.

How are Butler and Wallace gonna do what they do best with the defense packing the paint?

Caron will play spot up. He can hit threes. Not like Ray but he can. Jamal can come in and do the same. Caron has solid mid range, he can just step a little closer inside the arc and make a shot after Rondo draws the defense. Blatche the cancer has a decent mid range too so as JO so they can pick and pop. Gerald can hit shots outside too. Again, not as good and consistent as Ray and other shooters, but decent enough to give attention.

Outside shooting after a kickout pass is not big of a problem for this team.

I agree with others.  This team is set up to crash and burn.


There is no space for Rondo to do what makes him great.  

JO, I pray he makes it through a season.


Blatche, least favorite player in the league since he is wasting his talent by being soft and refusing to play defense.



There are some pieces here, but I don't think enough to ever recover from the Gay trade.

I can understand that Caron plays like a slasher. But he still has a mid range game and can shoot threes so how can he not stretch the floor for Rondo? The fact that he's older and maybe slower will make him play that role on this team.

Wallace can make 15-19 footers as well. And Jamal, need we ask his outside shooting? So how come this team can't stretch the floor?

Blatche, as soft and defensively poor he is, he can still make contributions to this team. He's a 16 pts - 8 reb guy. He's ahletic so he can run with Rondo and Crash on fastbreaks. He knows how to place himself inside and get open for Rondo to find him. He can and will rebound even if he's lazy on defense. And he can hit 10-15 ft jumpers too. His defense is indeed a problem but JO and Crash and another big man I'll select later in the drafts will help him to cover up that assignment, and then go for the rebound after JO, mystery big and/or Crash makes some dude miss. He could be a nutcase but let's remember that he was a candidate for most improved player last year and has shown consistent improvement every year.

And oh, let's not forget JO's solid 15-18 ft jumpers. How can that not stretch the floor for Rondo to move?

[Edgar]

people critizice Pandas a lot
but the more I see full 5 team rosters
the more i think we are a tough mathup against anyone

not to mention the superiority

of course talking trash cannot last forever
nothing last
if you think that just ask JLo
 


last 2 lines where a joke.

[wdleehi]

I'm putting my team up for criticism/positive feedbacks for everyone.



Atlanta Army Ants:

PG - Rajon Rondo

pass first/assist machine
can create open opportunities for teammates
can't make jumpshots

SG - Caron Butler

good scorer
can make outside shots and drive to the lane
coming off an injury and a little old

SF - Gerald Wallace

GREAT man and help defender
tough and gritty on both ends
has tendency to fall in love with jumpshots, which he's not as good.

PF - Andray Blatche

Big and athletic
has a solid mid range game
poor defense, decision making and WAY poor maturity issues

C - Jermaine O'neal

Tenacious interior defender
Solid post game
Fragile and lost a step or two (or four)

G - Jamal Crawford

can score in bunches
can create own shots
chuckler and tends to shoots ill advised shots


Bring it guys.

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but how is the spacing going to work with your starting lineup?  Neither Butler nor Wallace are a threat from 3.  We already know Rondo's reputation as a space-killer, and that's with two of the best 3pt shooters (including THE best) in the game next to him.

How are Butler and Wallace gonna do what they do best with the defense packing the paint?

Caron will play spot up. He can hit threes. Not like Ray but he can. Jamal can come in and do the same. Caron has solid mid range, he can just step a little closer inside the arc and make a shot after Rondo draws the defense. Blatche the cancer has a decent mid range too so as JO so they can pick and pop. Gerald can hit shots outside too. Again, not as good and consistent as Ray and other shooters, but decent enough to give attention.

Outside shooting after a kickout pass is not big of a problem for this team.

I agree with others.  This team is set up to crash and burn.


There is no space for Rondo to do what makes him great. 

JO, I pray he makes it through a season.


Blatche, least favorite player in the league since he is wasting his talent by being soft and refusing to play defense.



There are some pieces here, but I don't think enough to ever recover from the Gay trade.

I can understand that Caron plays like a slasher. But he still has a mid range game and can shoot threes so how can he not stretch the floor for Rondo? The fact that he's older and maybe slower will make him play that role on this team.

Wallace can make 15-19 footers as well. And Jamal, need we ask his outside shooting? So how come this team can't stretch the floor?

Blatche, as soft and defensively poor he is, he can still make contributions to this team. He's a 16 pts - 8 reb guy. He's ahletic so he can run with Rondo and Crash on fastbreaks. He knows how to place himself inside and get open for Rondo to find him. He can and will rebound even if he's lazy on defense. And he can hit 10-15 ft jumpers too. His defense is indeed a problem but JO and Crash and another big man I'll select later in the drafts will help him to cover up that assignment, and then go for the rebound after JO, mystery big and/or Crash makes some dude miss.

And oh, let's not forget JO's solid 15-18 ft jumpers. How can that not stretch the floor for Rondo to move?

Butler, for his career, is a 32% outside shooter.  Same as Wallace.

The rest of your players are playing the mid range game and need someone to set them up.  


Therefor, pack it in for Rondo to keep him from penetrating and making it hard for him to set up the mid range jump shooters.  



I don't see playoffs for this team the way it is built.  

[wdleehi]

C - Dwight Howard
PF - Andrea Bargnani/ Carl Landry
SF - Shawn Marion
SG -
PG - Darren Collison


Clearly team is still a work in progress. Bargs is a controversy, ingot it. However I think offensively him and D12 compliment each other amazingly. Also with Marion I have one of the premier lockdown perimeter defenders in the game.  Collison is a bit of a work in progress but he has a high compete level, plays above average d, and has plus penetration skills.

Clearly the backcourt is thin, but I have a bunch of guys pegged that I think can help my team.  Thoughts and opinions? TP's for constructive criticism

I don't like the team around Howard. 

I get that Bargnani spreads the floor, but he is not good enough to be the 2nd best player on a good team. 


I like Marion.  I like Landry



I worry that Collison is about to lose his starting spot in real life. 


Really needs someone who can create their own shot and play the pick and roll with Howard

[wdleehi]

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            PG. Steve Nash  
            SG. Kobe Bryant
            SF. Trevor Ariza
            PF. JJ Hickson
             C. Chris Kaman

Great guards. Good team. Depends on the style though. Nash has to be in an uptempo system. Kaman is not a runner so I think he needs a solid backup that can run. You know maybe like a guy who can help him stunt like his daddy or something. IDK, but he wsa a Center last year and has a good post game. Lol but anyways I think Hickson will play well off Kobe and Nash. It's hard to argue with Kobe and Nash. Kobe has never really played with a pg of that caliber. Definitely a playoff team as of now in my opinion.

Ive always wanted to see Nash play with Josh Smith at the 4.  Trade away Hickson, Kaman, and picks for Josh Smith if possible, then draft whoever at the center and this starting lineup is awesome!

Did I read somebody earlier say they didn't think Kobe and Ariza complement eachother well?  I think that's bogus.  Ariza playing alongside Kobe is what got Ariza is horribly overpaid contract (which even then didn't seem that horrendous!)  They're a great match on the wings.  They can defend anybody, can both shoot, and Kobe can do everything else on offense.  Both great complements to Nash too since they can both shoot and get out and run with him.  And Hickson can get out and run too. 

GET JOSH SMITH PLEASE!  I'll vote for you!

I just don't like the backcourt mix.