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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4020 on: July 21, 2011, 10:54:30 PM »

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4021 on: July 21, 2011, 11:00:01 PM »

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OKC Trades: Trevor Ariza

Very bad trade for OKC. Very good trade for Indy.

Ron Artest's decline over the past two seasons makes Ariza the superior talent. Especially for a team that intends to run the Triangle and know how much Artest has struggled within that offense for the past two years. In contrast to Ariza, who blossomed in it.


I don't necessarily disagree what you said about Artest in the triangle offense, but on a much simpler level, I think that the role reversal each player will have on their new teams suit each player well.

Artest wouldn't be happy coming off the bench backing up Rudy Gay for 15 min or so per night.  He wants to play and he is capable of being a starting SF and still locking down SFs in the NBA.  There are many statistics that show this which I'll hold back from and allow celticpride to bust out when the time is right.

Ariza, in my opinion, was an absolute stud coming off the bench for LAL.  Then he regressed when he became a starter in Houston and NOH.  I think he is best suited to play 20 min per game off the bench.  He defends very well, forces turnovers, is a streaky shooter, and has athleticism that teams look for as a "spark off the bench".

I think both players will be more valuable in their new roles.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4022 on: July 21, 2011, 11:02:19 PM »

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I'll stick up for Artest:

He's still a decent shooter for distance, if nothing else, his body type and strength present a unique defensive option that's fairly unmatched by other threes in the league.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4023 on: July 21, 2011, 11:03:58 PM »

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I'll stick up for Artest:

He's still a decent shooter for distance, if nothing else, his body type and strength present a unique defensive option that's fairly unmatched by other threes in the league.

i also have pierce in my division and we know artest can give pierce fits. and when the kobe double comes he can knock down shots.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4024 on: July 21, 2011, 11:05:00 PM »

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I'll stick up for Artest:

He's still a decent shooter for distance, if nothing else, his body type and strength present a unique defensive option that's fairly unmatched by other threes in the league.

i also have pierce in my division and we know artest can give pierce fits. and when the kobe double comes he can knock down shots.

I think you should dump the Triangle offense. Mo Williams, Ron Artest and Samuel Dalembert would each fare better outside of that offense.

Fire Rambis (a questionable head coach) and replace him with somebody else.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4025 on: July 21, 2011, 11:07:16 PM »

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I'll stick up for Artest:

He's still a decent shooter for distance, if nothing else, his body type and strength present a unique defensive option that's fairly unmatched by other threes in the league.

Absolutely.  StartOrien and I weren't 100% sure in our initial discussions on whether to pull the trigger on this deal or not mostly for that reason he just mentioned.  I think Artest is going to give the elite wings of the West more trouble than Ariza.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4026 on: July 21, 2011, 11:13:34 PM »

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Fire Rambis (a questionable head coach) and replace him with somebody else.

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« Reply #4027 on: July 21, 2011, 11:21:30 PM »

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4028 on: July 21, 2011, 11:25:26 PM »

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Fire Rambis (a questionable head coach) and replace him with somebody else.

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 fire kurt and hire who?
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4029 on: July 21, 2011, 11:27:04 PM »

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Fire Rambis (a questionable head coach) and replace him with somebody else.

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 fire kurt and hire who?
 

Brian Shaw. Kobe liked him as a successor to PJ, he knew the system, and that right there should be enough.

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4030 on: July 21, 2011, 11:30:02 PM »

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Fire Rambis (a questionable head coach) and replace him with somebody else.

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 fire kurt and hire who?

anybody not named Kurt Rambis

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4031 on: July 21, 2011, 11:33:10 PM »

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thunder fire rambis and hire Byron Scott
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Pick 2 Heat: 
Pg: Jennings/Vasquez
Sg: Wade/R. Allen/Rivers
SF: Lebron/M. Williams
PF: Bosh/Humphries
C: B. Lopez/Dalembert/Anthony

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4032 on: July 21, 2011, 11:35:13 PM »

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thunder fire rambis and hire Dwayne Casey

Fire an incompetent person and hire a competent one. I like it!

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4033 on: July 21, 2011, 11:40:11 PM »

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thunder fire rambis and hire Dwayne Casey

Fire an incompetent person and hire a competent one. I like it!

i changed my mind to byron scott..but still a competent person.
Pick 2 Heat: 
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Sg: Wade/R. Allen/Rivers
SF: Lebron/M. Williams
PF: Bosh/Humphries
C: B. Lopez/Dalembert/Anthony

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #4034 on: July 21, 2011, 11:41:40 PM »

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thunder fire rambis and hire Dwayne Casey

Fire an incompetent person and hire a competent one. I like it!

i changed my mind to byron scott..but still a competent person.

He's still not Kurt Rambis!