Where would you rank Kidd on the list of All-Time Point Guards?

[BASS_THUMPER]

he is not in the top ten..

[Roy H.]

he is not in the top ten..

Certainly not as a human being.

[mgent]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

[mgent]

he is not in the top ten..

Certainly not as a human being.

You have a ton ten human beings?

[KCattheStripe]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

[mgent]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

Um no he plays the 3.

[KCattheStripe]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

Um no he plays the 3.

But he's a forward/Point forward. How is that different than Guard/Point -Forward?

[Celtics18]

1. Magic Johnson
2. Tiny Archibald
3. Isaiah Thomas
4. Gary Payton
5. John Stockton
6. Steve Nash
7. Jason Kidd
8. Rajon Rondo
9. Chris Paul
10. Ricky Rubio

Honorable mention: Kevin Johnson and Mark Jackson.

[Roy H.]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

Um no he plays the 3.

But he's a forward/Point forward. How is that different than Guard/Point -Forward?

I don't think many people would consider Oscar a forward.  He was a 6'5" combo guard, who usually had the ball in his hands (and thus, is widely construed as a PG).

[KCattheStripe]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

Um no he plays the 3.

But he's a forward/Point forward. How is that different than Guard/Point -Forward?

I don't think many people would consider Oscar a forward.  He was a 6'5" combo guard, who usually had the ball in his hands (and thus, is widely construed as a PG).

Basketball reference just got Lawyered.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

1. Big O
2. Magic
3. Isaiah Thomas
4. Bob Cousy
5. John Stockton (yes he did not win a championship but the #1 all time assist puts him ahead of...)
6. Jason Kidd

[Edgar]

magic, stockton, O


who cares..................................

[mgent]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

Um no he plays the 3.

But he's a forward/Point forward. How is that different than Guard/Point -Forward?

But Oscar played PG.  He was capable of playing SG and SF but he was a PG.  LeBron plays SF.  He often handles the PG's duties, but he's never played the 1.  He's always played with a 1 even if it's always been a scoring-only PG.

Don't know what's so difficult to understand even though it's a wordy explanation.  Even though LeBron often is the team's PG, he's never played the position.  Oscar was a PG, SG, SF, point-forward all in one but he actually played the 1.  AKA he played with an off guard and a SF.  Nothing like LeBron.

[KCattheStripe]

Lot of talk about The Big O as a PG but Basketball reference has him listed as a "guard-forward". Either way I have Cousy ahead of him.

Guard/point-forward

So is LeBron going to be on this list some day?

Um no he plays the 3.

But he's a forward/Point forward. How is that different than Guard/Point -Forward?

But Oscar played PG.  He was capable of playing SG and SF but he was a PG.  LeBron plays SF.  He often handles the PG's duties, but he's never played the 1.  He's always played with a 1 even if it's always been a scoring-only PG.

Don't know what's so difficult to understand even though it's a wordy explanation.  Even though LeBron often is the team's PG, he's never played the position.  Oscar was a PG, SG, SF, point-forward all in one but he actually played the 1.  AKA he played with an off guard and a SF.  Nothing like LeBron.

It just seems odd that BBall reference has him listed as guard/forward, that's all. And for what it's worth on his first team (Which is as much research as I'm willing to do at 2 AM) O's listed as a guard/forward, Jack Twyman is a Forward/Guard and Bucky Bockhorn as a flat guard.  It's just interesting how nebulous positions were back when definitions weren't as strict, I'm willing to bet those Royals teams worked much the way the Cavs did when LeBron there, with him handling all the duties we think of as a point guards duties and Mo Williams simply being the shortest player listed at Guard.

[paulcowens]

Magic
Cousy
O
Thomas
Frazier

Kidd
Stockton
Archibald
Peyton
DJ