NBA Draft..who do we pick?

[CelticsGuy34]

singelton if he falls to 25

kenneth faried if hes there

marshon brooks if they go for sg and depending on Freeageny, id rather just sign JR Smith

[xmuscularghandix]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

[clover]

Hmm ... Robert Swift plays on the same Japanese basketball club that Jeremy Tyler plays for.

Swift is averaging 14 and 10 in 25 minutes while shooting 62% from the floor. He is also averaging 1.7 blocks. 0.6 steals plus an assist a night. There are also 2.4 fouls per game and 2.4 turnovers per game.

In comparison, Tyler is averaging 10 and 6.5 in only 15.4 minutes a night. Adding 0.7 blocks, 0.5 assists and 0.5 steals. There are 3.7 fouls in the 15 minutes plus 2.3 turnovers. So there looks to be a large number of mistakes. Shooting 52%, okay, but a fair bit down from Swift.

Robert Swift is 25 now. Career was derailed by injuries. Played just under a 100 games in four years. Hasn't been able to make it back since leaving the NBA two years ago.

Anyway, interesting to see the two on the same team. Get some type of gauge on the quality ... albeit a limited one.

That is interesting--the kid doesn't turn 20 until next week.

[kozlodoev]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

He measured 6'7 and 220, rather than 6'8 and 230. Sure, he's got the standing reach of a much bigger player, but I am hard pressed to see how a reed-thin PF with no offensive skills whatsoever will work out in the NBA.

[Chris]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

He measured 6'7 and 220, rather than 6'8 and 230. Sure, he's got the standing reach of a much bigger player, but I am hard pressed to see how a reed-thin PF with no offensive skills whatsoever will work out in the NBA.

Not that I think Faried is anywhere in his class, but...

[kozlodoev]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

He measured 6'7 and 220, rather than 6'8 and 230. Sure, he's got the standing reach of a much bigger player, but I am hard pressed to see how a reed-thin PF with no offensive skills whatsoever will work out in the NBA.

Not that I think Faried is anywhere in his class, but...

Yeah, except Rodman played ~15 years ago.

[Chris]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

He measured 6'7 and 220, rather than 6'8 and 230. Sure, he's got the standing reach of a much bigger player, but I am hard pressed to see how a reed-thin PF with no offensive skills whatsoever will work out in the NBA.

Not that I think Faried is anywhere in his class, but...

Yeah, except Rodman played ~15 years ago.

OK, some guys who had a standing reach (which is more important than height) the same, or less than Faried, and who weighed about the same or less than him in the predraft process:

Tyrus Thomas, Hakim Warrick, Marvin Williams (3.5 pounds heavier), Ed Davis (2.5 pounds heavier), Chris Wilcox, Darell Arthur, Joahkim Noah, David Lee (5.5 pounds heavier), Josh Smith, Drew Gooden (2.5 pounds heavier), Thaddeus Young...

So, I am not really worried about his size.  Now, we can question whether he has enough skill to compete, but the size is more than adequate.

[kozlodoev]

OK, some guys who had a standing reach (which is more important than height) the same, or less than Faried, and who weighed about the same or less than him in the predraft process:

Tyrus Thomas, Hakim Warrick, Marvin Williams (3.5 pounds heavier), Ed Davis (2.5 pounds heavier), Chris Wilcox, Darell Arthur, Joahkim Noah, David Lee (5.5 pounds heavier), Josh Smith, Drew Gooden (2.5 pounds heavier), Thaddeus Young...

So, I am not really worried about his size.  Now, we can question whether he has enough skill to compete, but the size is more than adequate.

220 lbs are not really adequate for an NBA-caliber PF.

[Chris]

OK, some guys who had a standing reach (which is more important than height) the same, or less than Faried, and who weighed about the same or less than him in the predraft process:

Tyrus Thomas, Hakim Warrick, Marvin Williams (3.5 pounds heavier), Ed Davis (2.5 pounds heavier), Chris Wilcox, Darell Arthur, Joahkim Noah, David Lee (5.5 pounds heavier), Josh Smith, Drew Gooden (2.5 pounds heavier), Thaddeus Young...

So, I am not really worried about his size.  Now, we can question whether he has enough skill to compete, but the size is more than adequate.

220 lbs are not really adequate for an NBA-caliber PF.

Yet all of those guys I listed weighed about that much, or less, and are NBA-caliber PFs.  And as Noah has shown, getting on an NBA training plan can really help to add some weight to a thin frame. 

[CeltsAcumen]

Tyler Honeycutt.  BB at UCLA is a terrible coach, he holds his players back in order to run the most boring, ala 1990s Jon Stark's Knick offense.

Honeycutt would be an excellent sleeper pick.

[KCattheStripe]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

He measured 6'7 and 220, rather than 6'8 and 230. Sure, he's got the standing reach of a much bigger player, but I am hard pressed to see how a reed-thin PF with no offensive skills whatsoever will work out in the NBA.

Not that I think Faried is anywhere in his class, but...

Yeah, except Rodman played ~15 years ago.

You're right, in an era with far more dominant big men.

[MBz]

Tyler Honeycutt.  BB at UCLA is a terrible coach, he holds his players back in order to run the most boring, ala 1990s Jon Stark's Knick offense.

Honeycutt would be an excellent sleeper pick.

I don't know, I like his size and athleticism, but he had a really tough time shooting the basketball at the combine.  On to Faried, I'd love to have him.  Everything he does is something which the Celtics need, rebounding, hardwork, athleticism, a sense of urgency.  The celtics bench had no sense of urgency this year, it was like they were just going through the motion.  Sure Faried's ceiling may be lower than guys who get drafted after him, but you know exactly what you're going to get out of him.  He's going to come in, work hard 100% of the time, rebound and play defense.  Size wise he's probably similar Leon Powe, only he's so much more athletic and faster.

[slamtheking]

If Faried is there i'm going to immediately lose my mind. I wrote this piece up on him the other day.

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/05/draft-idea-kenneth-faried.html

I really do think he could slide, teams in the first part of the draft will always choose scoring over defense and rebounding. There used to be a rumor out there that The Knicks were in love with him, now i'm hearing stuff about them wanting a PG.

He measured 6'7 and 220, rather than 6'8 and 230. Sure, he's got the standing reach of a much bigger player, but I am hard pressed to see how a reed-thin PF with no offensive skills whatsoever will work out in the NBA.

Not that I think Faried is anywhere in his class, but...

wow, Naomi Campbell's really slipping   

[CeltsAcumen]

Tyler Honeycutt.  BB at UCLA is a terrible coach, he holds his players back in order to run the most boring, ala 1990s Jon Stark's Knick offense.

Honeycutt would be an excellent sleeper pick.

I don't know, I like his size and athleticism, but he had a really tough time shooting the basketball at the combine.  On to Faried, I'd love to have him.  Everything he does is something which the Celtics need, rebounding, hardwork, athleticism, a sense of urgency.  The celtics bench had no sense of urgency this year, it was like they were just going through the motion.  Sure Faried's ceiling may be lower than guys who get drafted after him, but you know exactly what you're going to get out of him.  He's going to come in, work hard 100% of the time, rebound and play defense.  Size wise he's probably similar Leon Powe, only he's so much more athletic and faster.

No doubt about T. Honeycutts shot.  You can teach shooting, you cannot teach 6'8" and athletic.  He could be a sleeper, but if the kid from Florida St. is available, i would much rather have him. 

[syfy9]

I'd really like Jujuan Johnson. But this is a biased opinion, because I'm a big time Purdue fan. Johnson is a big body, athletic, and has somewhat of a mid-range shot. He can finish, but sometimes makes offensive mistakes. A perfect fresh pair of legs Doc can use in his game plan.