Rondo and Nash are tied

[Finkelskyhook]

Finkelskyhook - No politics - Yeah that sounds right.

I find is shocking that a person would defend an "alleged" rapist and Laker more passionately than his own lawyer...but is hating on a very good PG simply because of his views on some laws.

Anyway, I don't want to be a part of such an utterly asinine and irrelevant to the thread debate. So...last post on this subject.

Alleged being the operative term.  That he's a Laker is irrelevent.  

I think Los Nash is overrated.  Amazing offensive player. Amazing distributor.  Amazing motor.  And no defense.  Great formula for entertainment.  Lousy formula for a champion.  On top of that....His opinions suck.

I think Rondo is underrated because his outside shot is a lifelong work in progress.  A lot of people in this blog can't look beyond his lack of an outside shot to see that he does everything else champions do when the game is on the line.  The Knicks game was the posterboy illustration of how Rondo can dominate a game without scoring.

[barefacedmonk]

As the OP, I'm just laughing at how off topic this thread became...simply amazed. Didn't know my topic became a hot-button issue.

Try "Messiah" vs. "XYZ"...this thread will pale in comparison. Even a thread on Jermaine O'Neal will generate a similar debate.

[guava_wrench]

Some really shocking arguments here...Nash is bad person now because he is a Canadian and has opinions on some laws of the county he earns his living in...

Steve Nash is a very hard worker and a class act.

What's classy about a Canadian who trashes the laws of and the country who made him wealthy beyond imagination?  
 

He also pays taxes here, which entitles him to an opinion. It's not like he's smuggling his millions back over the border in the bottom of a van.

If Los Nash wants to run his mouth about the only place that could have given his family the quality of life it has...Maybe he should apply for citizenshp....Of course if he wanted to...He'd rather go through the same process he's lamenting for breaking our laws to do it.

But then again...With his idiotic views...Maybe he shouldn't.

I don't discount Los Nash's amazing offensive talent.  I also don't buy the what if argument.  He clearly flopped on the Horry hit and pretty much cemented any chance they had at their best opportunity for a championship.

I'd take Rondo if I want to win a championship

You have no integrity if you do not believe in speaking out against unjust laws only because you are making good money.

Or are you saying the US is perfect so no one should complain about any law? I'm pretty sure that every single person in this country can find a law they disagree with and complain about.

Are you saying there is something wrong with us critiquing countries we do not live in?

Do American players on the Raptors have no right to critique Canadian laws?

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

[Megatron]

I dont understand how Nash and Hill arent on contenders. It makes no sense.

Nash and Hill deserve rings more then anyone else in the league.

Nash and Hill still have more years left in them though that is whats clear. I think both can play 2-3 more years with maybe a slight drop off in play level. They still have a shot of netting a reserve role on a contender over the next couple of seasons.

[Finkelskyhook]

Some really shocking arguments here...Nash is bad person now because he is a Canadian and has opinions on some laws of the county he earns his living in...

Steve Nash is a very hard worker and a class act.

What's classy about a Canadian who trashes the laws of and the country who made him wealthy beyond imagination?  
 

He also pays taxes here, which entitles him to an opinion. It's not like he's smuggling his millions back over the border in the bottom of a van.

If Los Nash wants to run his mouth about the only place that could have given his family the quality of life it has...Maybe he should apply for citizenshp....Of course if he wanted to...He'd rather go through the same process he's lamenting for breaking our laws to do it.

But then again...With his idiotic views...Maybe he shouldn't.

I don't discount Los Nash's amazing offensive talent.  I also don't buy the what if argument.  He clearly flopped on the Horry hit and pretty much cemented any chance they had at their best opportunity for a championship.

I'd take Rondo if I want to win a championship

You have no integrity if you do not believe in speaking out against unjust laws only because you are making good money.

Or are you saying the US is perfect so no one should complain about any law? I'm pretty sure that every single person in this country can find a law they disagree with and complain about.

Are you saying there is something wrong with us critiquing countries we do not live in?

Do American players on the Raptors have no right to critique Canadian laws?

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

I guess I lack Los Nash's integrity and class because I don't protest a law which acknowledges and addresses overt criminal activity.  

Your post on Rondo's passing is somewhat credible.  Paul has to shoot more than Rondo because he has only one other scorer on his roster other than himself.  Rondo has as many as 3 at any given time.

[crownsy]

If were blatantly going to turn this into a political debate on nash's stance on arizona immigration law (something on which even non-canadian's have strong opinions on, not sure why you've singled out steve as a scapegoat, can we move it to current events where it belongs rather than trying to derail a thread?

on topic, I hope Rondo wins it, but i Don't really care. I'd rather him get back on track and healthy than hang onto the top of a statistical category.

[BballTim]

Some really shocking arguments here...Nash is bad person now because he is a Canadian and has opinions on some laws of the county he earns his living in...

Steve Nash is a very hard worker and a class act.

What's classy about a Canadian who trashes the laws of and the country who made him wealthy beyond imagination?  
 

He also pays taxes here, which entitles him to an opinion. It's not like he's smuggling his millions back over the border in the bottom of a van.

If Los Nash wants to run his mouth about the only place that could have given his family the quality of life it has...Maybe he should apply for citizenshp....Of course if he wanted to...He'd rather go through the same process he's lamenting for breaking our laws to do it.

But then again...With his idiotic views...Maybe he shouldn't.

I don't discount Los Nash's amazing offensive talent.  I also don't buy the what if argument.  He clearly flopped on the Horry hit and pretty much cemented any chance they had at their best opportunity for a championship.

I'd take Rondo if I want to win a championship

You have no integrity if you do not believe in speaking out against unjust laws only because you are making good money.

Or are you saying the US is perfect so no one should complain about any law? I'm pretty sure that every single person in this country can find a law they disagree with and complain about.

Are you saying there is something wrong with us critiquing countries we do not live in?

Do American players on the Raptors have no right to critique Canadian laws?

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

  What's a reality check on his alleged passing dominance, your claims that he's not as good as he seems?

[BballTim]

Some really shocking arguments here...Nash is bad person now because he is a Canadian and has opinions on some laws of the county he earns his living in...

Steve Nash is a very hard worker and a class act.

What's classy about a Canadian who trashes the laws of and the country who made him wealthy beyond imagination?  
 

He also pays taxes here, which entitles him to an opinion. It's not like he's smuggling his millions back over the border in the bottom of a van.

If Los Nash wants to run his mouth about the only place that could have given his family the quality of life it has...Maybe he should apply for citizenshp....Of course if he wanted to...He'd rather go through the same process he's lamenting for breaking our laws to do it.

But then again...With his idiotic views...Maybe he shouldn't.

I don't discount Los Nash's amazing offensive talent.  I also don't buy the what if argument.  He clearly flopped on the Horry hit and pretty much cemented any chance they had at their best opportunity for a championship.

I'd take Rondo if I want to win a championship

You have no integrity if you do not believe in speaking out against unjust laws only because you are making good money.

Or are you saying the US is perfect so no one should complain about any law? I'm pretty sure that every single person in this country can find a law they disagree with and complain about.

Are you saying there is something wrong with us critiquing countries we do not live in?

Do American players on the Raptors have no right to critique Canadian laws?

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

I guess I lack Los Nash's integrity and class because I don't protest a law which acknowledges and addresses overt criminal activity.  

Your post on Rondo's passing is somewhat credible.  Paul has to shoot more than Rondo because he has only one other scorer on his roster other than himself.  Rondo has as many as 3 at any given time.

  It goes both ways. Put Rondo on a team with fewer scorers and he might get fewer assists but he'll score more.

[ManUp]

Los Nash will lead the league in assists....Lead the league in stupid comments...And will be watching the playoffs....Because he plays only one end of the court.  20 assists last night and his team lost.

I'm sure Rondo could care less about an assists title.  There's an NBA title out there for him.  Los Nash will never smell one.

I think all the assist padding earlier in the season is because he does care. In fact I'd be willing to bet that was one of his goals for the season. Pierce always talks about how he tells Rondo that he should be able to lead the league in assists so Rondo probably when F'it and decided to try.

[Finkelskyhook]

Los Nash will lead the league in assists....Lead the league in stupid comments...And will be watching the playoffs....Because he plays only one end of the court.  20 assists last night and his team lost.

I'm sure Rondo could care less about an assists title.  There's an NBA title out there for him.  Los Nash will never smell one.

I think all the assist padding earlier in the season is because he does care. In fact I'd be willing to bet that was one of his goals for the season. Pierce always talks about how he tells Rondo that he should be able to lead the league in assists so Rondo probably when F'it and decided to try.

I'm just curious.....What was our record while Rondo was doing all of this stat padding?  While he was padding his stats...How many times did Rondo get torched by his opposing PG because he couldn't be bothered playing defense?

[Celtics18]

I think Rondo would love to win the assist title, but I don't think that makes him a selfish player. 

[dtrader]

Wanting to win the title in and of itself, wouldn't make him a selfish player, but if it's close down the stretch and he goes out of his way (more than normal) to pass up easy scoring opportunities to rack up assists, then I'll see him as a petty person in general.

[aporel#18]

Nash talked against Arizona Immigration Bill, and those weren't stupid comments, he was right, in my opinion. And even if I thought his comments were not correct, I'd support his right to speak.

I'm from Spain, so I usually read your political posts with interest, but don't add my comments, as I don't have all the knowledge about the US reality. But in this case, it's clear that you have to be free to speak about what's happening in your neighbourhood.


Nash, as a player, is my favorite non-Celtic (in my mind, Perk, Nate, Semih, Luke, Quis, Powe, TA and even Eddie Mansion and his kid are Celtics), even if Durant is a joy to watch, Nash can't defend, but can do anything on offense.I was watching the 2nd and 3rd overtimes of the Suns-Fakers game, and I got the feeling that Nash was exhausted in the 8 last minutes of the game. Maybe because of age, I don't know. I stopped watching it when the refs took Hill out of the game, while allowing the fakers to defend like the Bad Boys without a whistle. I hate the refs.

The Lakers have been without Bynum for two games, and they deserved to loose both, but the Stern boys came to rescue. I hope the Celtics can win a lot in the next weeks to keep HCA against the fakeshow.

And of course, I'm happy with Rondo being a Celtic, they may be tied in assists, but Rondo is 25 y.o., and he'll only get better. It's good to be a Celtic fan.

[Finkelskyhook]

Nash talked against Arizona Immigration Bill, and those weren't stupid comments, he was right, in my opinion. And even if I thought his comments were not correct, I'd support his right to speak.

I'm from Spain, so I usually read your political posts with interest, but don't add my comments, as I don't have all the knowledge about the US reality. But in this case, it's clear that you have to be free to speak about what's happening in your neighbourhood.


Nash, as a player, is my favorite non-Celtic (in my mind, Perk, Nate, Semih, Luke, Quis, Powe, TA and even Eddie Mansion and his kid are Celtics), even if Durant is a joy to watch, Nash can't defend, but can do anything on offense.I was watching the 2nd and 3rd overtimes of the Suns-Fakers game, and I got the feeling that Nash was exhausted in the 8 last minutes of the game. Maybe because of age, I don't know. I stopped watching it when the refs took Hill out of the game, while allowing the fakers to defend like the Bad Boys without a whistle. I hate the refs.

The Lakers have been without Bynum for two games, and they deserved to loose both, but the Stern boys came to rescue. I hope the Celtics can win a lot in the next weeks to keep HCA against the fakeshow.

And of course, I'm happy with Rondo being a Celtic, they may be tied in assists, but Rondo is 25 y.o., and he'll only get better. It's good to be a Celtic fan.

Exactly how did the refs come to Phoenix's rescue when they watch Los Nash palm the ball every single time he has posession and never call it once?

[BballTim]

Los Nash will lead the league in assists....Lead the league in stupid comments...And will be watching the playoffs....Because he plays only one end of the court.  20 assists last night and his team lost.

I'm sure Rondo could care less about an assists title.  There's an NBA title out there for him.  Los Nash will never smell one.

I think all the assist padding earlier in the season is because he does care. In fact I'd be willing to bet that was one of his goals for the season. Pierce always talks about how he tells Rondo that he should be able to lead the league in assists so Rondo probably when F'it and decided to try.

  You probably didn't notice this but the Celts had the most efficient shooting team in the league when Rondo was "padding his stats".