Rondo and Nash are tied

[aporel#18]

Nash talked against Arizona Immigration Bill, and those weren't stupid comments, he was right, in my opinion. And even if I thought his comments were not correct, I'd support his right to speak.

I'm from Spain, so I usually read your political posts with interest, but don't add my comments, as I don't have all the knowledge about the US reality. But in this case, it's clear that you have to be free to speak about what's happening in your neighbourhood.


Nash, as a player, is my favorite non-Celtic (in my mind, Perk, Nate, Semih, Luke, Quis, Powe, TA and even Eddie Mansion and his kid are Celtics), even if Durant is a joy to watch, Nash can't defend, but can do anything on offense.I was watching the 2nd and 3rd overtimes of the Suns-Fakers game, and I got the feeling that Nash was exhausted in the 8 last minutes of the game. Maybe because of age, I don't know. I stopped watching it when the refs took Hill out of the game, while allowing the fakers to defend like the Bad Boys without a whistle. I hate the refs.

The Lakers have been without Bynum for two games, and they deserved to loose both, but the Stern boys came to rescue. I hope the Celtics can win a lot in the next weeks to keep HCA against the fakeshow.

And of course, I'm happy with Rondo being a Celtic, they may be tied in assists, but Rondo is 25 y.o., and he'll only get better. It's good to be a Celtic fan.

Exactly how did the refs come to Phoenix's rescue when they watch Los Nash palm the ball every single time he has posession and never call it once?

It didn't seem like that to me, but maybe it's because I'm a laker hater. The refs always help the fakers, whoever they are playing against. 

[BballTim]

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

  Don't know if you're watching the game tonight but Rondo had a play where he caught an outlet pass with his left hand and threw a 25+ foot cross-court bounce pass through traffic to someone (Paul or Ray) running towards the basket. How many other point guards in the league could make that pass? I'm guessing exactly one. He makes a couple of passes a week that you won't see an opponent make all year. He makes plays that a lot of pgs wouldn't even see until it was too late to make the pass.

  Sometimes he does things that are a little fancier than they need to be (just like most players) but he's the best passer in the game.

[nickagneta]

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

  Don't know if you're watching the game tonight but Rondo had a play where he caught an outlet pass with his left hand and threw a 25+ foot cross-court bounce pass through traffic to someone (Paul or Ray) running towards the basket. How many other point guards in the league could make that pass? I'm guessing exactly one. He makes a couple of passes a week that you won't see an opponent make all year. He makes plays that a lot of pgs wouldn't even see until it was too late to make the pass.

  Sometimes he does things that are a little fancier than they need to be (just like most players) but he's the best passer in the game.

TP BBall absolutely on point about Rondo's passing skills. Excellently said.

[PosImpos]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

[Kiorrik]

Back to the topic, Rondo is not as good as he seemed to be at the start of the season. He is an excellent PG and passer, but he is one among multiple great passers. The only reason he is so far ahead of someone like CP3 is that CP3 does more than just pass on offense, so he doesn't have inflated assist totals.

Sure, Rondo is a top defensive PG. But this is a reality check on his alleged passing dominance.

  Don't know if you're watching the game tonight but Rondo had a play where he caught an outlet pass with his left hand and threw a 25+ foot cross-court bounce pass through traffic to someone (Paul or Ray) running towards the basket. How many other point guards in the league could make that pass? I'm guessing exactly one. He makes a couple of passes a week that you won't see an opponent make all year. He makes plays that a lot of pgs wouldn't even see until it was too late to make the pass.

  Sometimes he does things that are a little fancier than they need to be (just like most players) but he's the best passer in the game.

TP BBall absolutely on point about Rondo's passing skills. Excellently said.

Yeh, I concur. Had to knock you off your fancy "222" TP's by adding one.

[ejk3489]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

What so we could give up even more points in the paint? Excellent idea.

[PosImpos]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

What so we could give up even more points in the paint? Excellent idea.

So we could have scored more than 87 points.  We may have given up a few more, but I guarantee you our offense would have been far more efficient.  Nash could have made some clutch end of the game shots, too.

When Rondo is at his best, he is a much better player than Steve Nash (at this point in their respective careers).  But when Rondo is just playing mediocre to okay (as he has been lately), Steve Nash is far superior.  

People should stop selling Steve short.  He carries teams with very little talent year after year and people hate on him just because he doesn't fit their idea of a superstar point guard (he doesn't dunk or run really fast) and he never won a ring (which was more because he plays for a team owned by Robert Sarver than anything else).

[BballTim]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

  Nash isn't perfect every night contrary to popular opinion. And it's worth pointing out that Rondo, with his assists and rebounds, got the Celts about 14 more possessions than you'd normally get from Nash.

[BballTim]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

What so we could give up even more points in the paint? Excellent idea.

So we could have scored more than 87 points.  We may have given up a few more, but I guarantee you our offense would have been far more efficient.  Nash could have made some clutch end of the game shots, too.

When Rondo is at his best, he is a much better player than Steve Nash (at this point in their respective careers).  But when Rondo is just playing mediocre to okay (as he has been lately), Steve Nash is far superior.  People should stop selling Steve short.

  What about when Nash plays mediocre to okay? And what happens to the score if you get no steals and very few rebounds from your point guard position?

[PosImpos]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

  Nash isn't perfect every night contrary to popular opinion. And it's worth pointing out that Rondo, with his assists and rebounds, got the Celts about 14 more possessions than you'd normally get from Nash.

No, he's not perfect every night, but he could have provided the Celtics with something they desperately lacked tonight.  The Celtics are severely hampered by the fact that Rondo can't score.  The way the NBA game is nowadays you need your primary ball-handler to be able to score effectively.

[ejk3489]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

What so we could give up even more points in the paint? Excellent idea.

So we could have scored more than 87 points.  We may have given up a few more, but I guarantee you our offense would have been far more efficient.  Nash could have made some clutch end of the game shots, too.

When Rondo is at his best, he is a much better player than Steve Nash (at this point in their respective careers).  But when Rondo is just playing mediocre to okay (as he has been lately), Steve Nash is far superior.  

People should stop selling Steve short.  He carries teams with very little talent year after year and people hate on him just because he doesn't fit their idea of a superstar point guard (he doesn't dunk or run really fast) and he never won a ring (which was more because he plays for a team owned by Robert Sarver than anything else).

Rondo was not the only reason why we scored 87 points. KG missed a lot of shots he usually makes and Ray only went 4-10. Pierce was a no show on offense until the second half. I also don't think 11 assits, 11 rebounds, and 7 steals is mediocre, but that's just me.

[BballTim]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

  Nash isn't perfect every night contrary to popular opinion. And it's worth pointing out that Rondo, with his assists and rebounds, got the Celts about 14 more possessions than you'd normally get from Nash.

No, he's not perfect every night, but he could have provided the Celtics with something they desperately lacked tonight.  The Celtics are severely hampered by the fact that Rondo can't score.  The way the NBA game is nowadays you need your primary ball-handler to be able to score effectively.

  Again, you're ignoring this, but our offense would have to be *much* better to make up for all of the steals and rebounds that Nash wouldn't get you, and it's likely Conley would have had at least a somewhat better game. Would the extra 3-4 baskets Nash would have made covered all of that?

[BballTim]

People should stop selling Steve short.  He carries teams with very little talent year after year and people hate on him just because he doesn't fit their idea of a superstar point guard (he doesn't dunk or run really fast) and he never won a ring (which was more because he plays for a team owned by Robert Sarver than anything else).

  He's finally on a team without much talent and he's carrying them right into the lottery.

[BballTim]

We really could have used Steve Nash tonight.

Just sayin'.

  Nash isn't perfect every night contrary to popular opinion. And it's worth pointing out that Rondo, with his assists and rebounds, got the Celts about 14 more possessions than you'd normally get from Nash.

No, he's not perfect every night, but he could have provided the Celtics with something they desperately lacked tonight. 

  Rebounding?

[soap07]

BballTim, I know how much you love Rondo. But strictly speaking offensively, not defensively, would you say Rondo is a better point guard than Nash right now? Just offensively. As in, would you rather have Rondo running your offense than Nash? I just want to clarify.