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Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #180 on: February 03, 2011, 03:44:10 PM »

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San Antonio Spur(ned):

PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Manu Ginobili
SF: Richard Hamilton
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Chris Kaman
I don't like Rip Hamilton as a small forward either. He is a very weak rebounder there and he'll struggle against physical / powerful small forwards defensively.

Chris Kaman will need to the play four with Duncan at center. Duncan no longer has the quickness required to play as a forward on a regular basis.

Kaman will have a few troublesome matchups there but he'll do a solid job on most non-perimeter based PFs. Back with the Clippers when Brand was still there, Kaman spent a fair bit of time defending top power forwards.

His defense has dropped off badly over the past few years but I think he'll improve here and be a solid defensive presence as a four (aside from the perimeter based matchups where he'll be a liability defensively). When he switches to the five while Duncan rests, he'll probably be below average defensively again although hopefully not as bad as he's been with the Clippers over the past few years.

Offensively, the Kaman and Duncan combo will regularly give you at least one matchup advantage in the post. When facing smaller PFs, Kaman's offensive efficiency in the post should increase considerably. More than enough floor spacing with Kaman's + Duncan's combined jump shooting ability too.

It should also receive a bump from playing with such wonderful passing guards + Duncan is an excellent passer + Rip is an above average passer ... and as a 3rd/4th option in the lineup, the decreased responsibility offensively (and hence decreased defensive attention from opposing teams) will also increase his efficiency. I think he can get back to being a 56-57% TS% scorer in this smaller role.

When playing against tall long PFs, like Pau Gasol or LaMarcus Aldridge, Kaman will likely see a drop off in efficiency though. More likely a 54-55% TS% scorer (as a 15ppg threat -- bigger decrease in larger scoring role).

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #181 on: February 03, 2011, 03:49:48 PM »

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PG Wall
SG Harden
SF Green
PF Bosh
C  Monroe

bench
PF Humpries

You know what's funny? I actually like Bosh the least in that starting five.

Nice flexibility in the frontcourt. A number of different pairings that work.

While you (and many) might like him the least, he is one of the top two talents on this team. 

We just need to make sure we have guys next to him that have no issue unloading the lumber on the other team's drivers. 

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #182 on: February 03, 2011, 03:51:07 PM »

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OK, my turn to be tossed under the bus.

San Antonio Spur(ned):
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Manu Ginobili
SF: Richard Hamilton
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Chris Kaman

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I know it's a geriatric squad but all are winners or [dang] good for their positions.  I need to fill out the bench with some youth and versatility.

Thoughts?  

That's an awesome nucleus for a championship, I just think you need to make sure the rest of the way you get

Harder.
Better. Younger
Faster.
Stronger.

I'd plan to move Ginobli & Kaman to the bench and expect Rip to play 15-25 minutes per game with a fast defensive SG/SF
I'd love to see San An add a quick power forward. Someone who gives you lineup flexibility against teams with small quick lineups and/or have jump shooting big men. Someone like a Ty Thomas type.

I'd also like to see a true small forward with defensive + rebounding ability ... actually, they could be the same player. A combo forward 3/4 type. Someone who can do both jobs. 

I wouldn't move Ginobili to the bench. You'll be too predictable offensively without his dynamic play in the starting lineup. Kidd isn't enough of an offensive threat to balance that lineup and the SF you acquire likely won't be potent enough to be that either.

Best to keep Kaman (15ppg) and Duncan (14ppg) in smaller offensive roles the majority of the time. Kaman because he's inefficient in a larger role and Duncan because of decline is best off being used as a facilitator (defender/rebounder/passer/team offense).

So Ginobili needs to stay in the starting lineup for me ... and I have no confidence in Rip coming off the bench so I'd probably keep him in the starting lineup too.

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #183 on: February 03, 2011, 03:51:11 PM »

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PG Wall
SG Harden
SF Green
PF Bosh
C  Monroe

bench
PF Humpries

I'm not a Humphries fan, but I love the starting lineup as a rebuilding team.  I think you need to get some veterans on there to guide these guys a bit, but love every one of those players, and think they compliment each other very well.



I agree that we need some vets.  

Humphries was the best rebounding/shot blocking big man at the time.  He has really stepped up this year.  


Still need to add a bigger guy.

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #184 on: February 03, 2011, 03:51:23 PM »

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PG: Kyle Lowry
SG: Landry Fields
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Serge Ibaka
C: Andrew Bogut

I'd also like some feedback. Where should I shore up my bench first? Scoring, sure, but where? The 3/4? The 4/5? The 2/3? The 1/2?

I like your choice of Lowry at the PG alot with your current team. PP, Ibaka and Bogut are very capable of creating their own shot, and in recent games Lowry has been a virtuoso at getting his own shot off (some really difficult ones) instead of passing. I would like to see a good backup 4/5 if possible, Ibaka starts to peak around 30-31 mins and Bogut has been extremely unreliable injurywise this season (Migraine's, back problems, knee etc.)
Pick 2 Draft:

Salt Laker Flappers

PG: Jameer Nelson/ Mike Bibby/ Pooh Jeter
SG: Jason Richardson/ J.R. Smith
SF: Caron Butler/ J.R. Smith / Matt Barnes PF: Zach Randolph/ Ike Diogu/ Nenad Kristic C: Joakim Noah/ Nenad Kristic/ Tony Battie/ Ike Diogu

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #185 on: February 03, 2011, 03:53:26 PM »

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PG Wall
SG Harden
SF Green
PF Bosh
C  Monroe

bench
PF Humpries

I'm not a Humphries fan, but I love the starting lineup as a rebuilding team.  I think you need to get some veterans on there to guide these guys a bit, but love every one of those players, and think they compliment each other very well.



I agree that we need some vets.  

Humphries was the best rebounding/shot blocking big man at the time.  He has really stepped up this year.  


Still need to add a bigger guy.

I disagree with the earlier comment with reference to Humphries as, as you point out, he has really gone to a different level this year. With Brook Lopez seeming to have forgotten how to box out other big men, Humphries has been a breath of fresh air in NJ. And he's not afraid to knock others down, balancing the "fake-toughness" of Bosh......
Pick 2 Draft:

Salt Laker Flappers

PG: Jameer Nelson/ Mike Bibby/ Pooh Jeter
SG: Jason Richardson/ J.R. Smith
SF: Caron Butler/ J.R. Smith / Matt Barnes PF: Zach Randolph/ Ike Diogu/ Nenad Kristic C: Joakim Noah/ Nenad Kristic/ Tony Battie/ Ike Diogu

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #186 on: February 03, 2011, 03:58:11 PM »

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JR and Randolph on one team.  Make sure their is mental health in place.

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Pick 2 Draft:

Salt Laker Flappers

PG: Jameer Nelson/ Mike Bibby/ Pooh Jeter
SG: Jason Richardson/ J.R. Smith
SF: Caron Butler/ J.R. Smith / Matt Barnes PF: Zach Randolph/ Ike Diogu/ Nenad Kristic C: Joakim Noah/ Nenad Kristic/ Tony Battie/ Ike Diogu

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #187 on: February 03, 2011, 04:00:04 PM »

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Washington: Wall + Harden + Green + Humphries + Bosh

I think that lineup will be quite similar to the Raptors team that won 47 games in 06-07 ... in terms of the chemistry and types of roles each player will be asked to fill.

Jeff Green playing the Jorge Garbajosa role and James Harden the Anthony Parker role. John Wall as a considerably superior version of TJ Ford (main creator/playmaker) off the dribble. A pick and roll heavy offense.

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #188 on: February 03, 2011, 04:08:38 PM »

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PG Wall
SG Harden
SF Green
PF Bosh
C  Monroe

bench
PF Humpries

You know what's funny? I actually like Bosh the least in that starting five.

Nice flexibility in the frontcourt. A number of different pairings that work.

While you (and many) might like him the least, he is one of the top two talents on this team.  

We just need to make sure we have guys next to him that have no issue unloading the lumber on the other team's drivers.  

Yeah, I think that's my problem with the team.

We know how Toronto did with Bosh as its best player.

Clearly the Wiz are better now. So it's a success.
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Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #189 on: February 03, 2011, 04:17:19 PM »

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PG Wall
SG Harden
SF Green
PF Bosh
C  Monroe

bench
PF Humpries

You know what's funny? I actually like Bosh the least in that starting five.

Nice flexibility in the frontcourt. A number of different pairings that work.

While you (and many) might like him the least, he is one of the top two talents on this team.  

We just need to make sure we have guys next to him that have no issue unloading the lumber on the other team's drivers.  

Yeah, I think that's my problem with the team.

We know how Toronto did with Bosh as its best player.

Clearly the Wiz are better now. So it's a success.

1) I expect Wall to pass him in terms of best player.

2) Wall is the best passing PG Bosh has played with.  I expect him to get the best shots in his career.

3) Harden and Green are better then the swing combo's Bosh had in Toronto. 

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #190 on: February 03, 2011, 04:30:35 PM »

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Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #191 on: February 03, 2011, 04:36:50 PM »

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2) Wall is the best passing PG Bosh has played with.  I expect him to get the best shots in his career.


I would argue that Calderon is a better passer than Wall...although Wall's ability to penetrate will certainly create more room for Bosh to work, even if the passes aren't quite as accurate.

Re: How is my Pick 2 team?
« Reply #192 on: February 03, 2011, 04:41:54 PM »

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pg: steph curry
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They're a pretty good selection of talent. I think Melo was worth more than Curry, but you also got Blatche out of the deal. The thing I worry about is that Blatche is dead lazy, and has never listened to his coaches. If he maybe gets his stuff together, will it be in time to capitalize on Jackson and Hill's effectiveness?

Also does Blatche affect Curry's development negatively at all?

Ideally, you'd want someone else in there at the 4..and I don't mean big baby.

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« Reply #193 on: February 03, 2011, 04:45:35 PM »

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2) Wall is the best passing PG Bosh has played with.  I expect him to get the best shots in his career.


I would argue that Calderon is a better passer than Wall...although Wall's ability to penetrate will certainly create more room for Bosh to work, even if the passes aren't quite as accurate.

As a rookie, he already is averaging more assists then Calderon's career high.  Once he get's past the rookie level turnovers, he will be one of the top passing PGs in the league. 

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« Reply #194 on: February 03, 2011, 04:49:22 PM »

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2) Wall is the best passing PG Bosh has played with.  I expect him to get the best shots in his career.


I would argue that Calderon is a better passer than Wall...although Wall's ability to penetrate will certainly create more room for Bosh to work, even if the passes aren't quite as accurate.

As a rookie, he already is averaging more assists then Calderon's career high.  Once he get's past the rookie level turnovers, he will be one of the top passing PGs in the league. 

Right now no way is Wall a better passer than 26 yr old Jose Calderon. He probably will be at some point, but not right now.

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