Stephane Lasme

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I think tonight's game ended the Lasme can't play SF argument.  He played great D on Iguodala and he's one of the quicker SF/SGs.  On offense he doesn't need to anything other than maybe get a few hustle/garbage baskets.  On defense he can D up the guys that Marquis can't, and I think we need Marquis insurance anyway.  If we need a guy that can shoot we can just put in Harangody.

I'd give him the spot.  Put him out there with Shaq and JO and call it a block party.

Tommy says Lasme looks like a shooter when he's out warming up, so he may be a scorer as well.

Well I would never disagree with Tommy.  If that's true then that just disproves the notion that he can't play the 3 even more.  I don't think his shot is that big of a deal anyway seeing as Marquis can't really shoot and everyone else on the bench can.  If he can just hit from 15-18 that'd be great.

It fits within the 'plays within himself' description he's always had that he might have more range than he's been showing.

I've also heard Tommy raving about how well Perk and Rondo shoot in warmups too.  There's a big difference between shooting well in practice and shooting well during a game.  I'm not saying Lasme can't shoot, I'm just saying that taking this with a grain of salt would be a good idea.  When Stephane starts knocking down jumpers in games, I'll be the first to agree that he can shoot.

Just passing along Tommy's observation, which he presented as a possible bonus, as in 'Lasme may make the team as a defender and end up being a scorer as well'.

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Oh, and Rondo can shoot, as he's shown in various contexts for years now.  Since it seems to be a matter of consistency, confidence and not overthinking in games more than his not having the ability, such an observation is relevant in his case.

[Roy H.]

Lasme has never been a shooter, and he's almost 28 years old.  I think Tommy is just channeling his endless optimism about all Celtics rookies / projects.

It's going to be interesting to see which way the team goes.  I still expect Wafer to make the team out of camp, primarily due to the Delonte suspension and the team's need for shooting.  With Delonte out, the only guy with range on the bench is Nate (assuming that Harangody isn't seeing a lot of time).

However, Lasme definitely has done what the team has asked of him.  I'm disappointed that he hasn't been a better rebounder, but he hustles and brings energy to the team.  It wouldn't shock me if the team kept him, if for no other reason than he brings better chemistry than Wafer.

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Lasme has never been a shooter, and he's almost 28 years old.  I think Tommy is just channeling his endless optimism about all Celtics rookies / projects.

It's going to be interesting to see which way the team goes.  I still expect Wafer to make the team out of camp, primarily due to the Delonte suspension and the team's need for shooting.  With Delonte out, the only guy with range on the bench is Nate (assuming that Harangody isn't seeing a lot of time).

However, Lasme definitely has done what the team has asked of him.  I'm disappointed that he hasn't been a better rebounder, but he hustles and brings energy to the team.  It wouldn't shock me if the team kept him, if for no other reason than he brings better chemistry than Wafer.

Glad to see you're at least a little coming around on Lasme.  29yo Daniels may be showing more range this year himself, making the need for a shooter in West's absence less acute.

[2short]

Lasme has never been a shooter, and he's almost 28 years old.  I think Tommy is just channeling his endless optimism about all Celtics rookies / projects.

It's going to be interesting to see which way the team goes.  I still expect Wafer to make the team out of camp, primarily due to the Delonte suspension and the team's need for shooting.  With Delonte out, the only guy with range on the bench is Nate (assuming that Harangody isn't seeing a lot of time).

However, Lasme definitely has done what the team has asked of him.  I'm disappointed that he hasn't been a better rebounder, but he hustles and brings energy to the team.  It wouldn't shock me if the team kept him, if for no other reason than he brings better chemistry than Wafer.

but wafer can't hit the shots

[Roy H.]

Lasme has never been a shooter, and he's almost 28 years old.  I think Tommy is just channeling his endless optimism about all Celtics rookies / projects.

It's going to be interesting to see which way the team goes.  I still expect Wafer to make the team out of camp, primarily due to the Delonte suspension and the team's need for shooting.  With Delonte out, the only guy with range on the bench is Nate (assuming that Harangody isn't seeing a lot of time).

However, Lasme definitely has done what the team has asked of him.  I'm disappointed that he hasn't been a better rebounder, but he hustles and brings energy to the team.  It wouldn't shock me if the team kept him, if for no other reason than he brings better chemistry than Wafer.

but wafer can't hit the shots

His shooting was a little better last night, and he picked up his aggression.  There's a difference between Wafer's so-far poor shooting, and the inability to shoot that a lot of our other guys have.  Wafer has the range, he just needs to find it.

[MBz]

I can't believe people are arguing so much over this.  This is like Brandon Wallace part 2.  If Lasme makes the team, everyone realizes he is NOT going to play right? We don't have minutes for this guy.  He is not a good offensive player at the 3 position.  Marquis Daniels may not be as talented defensively as Lasme, but he's much better offensively.  As of right now, Marquis Daniels and Ray Allen are going to be getting most of the back up 3 minutes.  Even if Lasme makes this team, he will not be an active roster guy.  As people have pointed out, he's already 28 and his offensive game has not improved.  He is someone you take a chance on if you're the LA Clippers, not the Boston Celtics.

[Chris]

Lasme has never been a shooter, and he's almost 28 years old.  I think Tommy is just channeling his endless optimism about all Celtics rookies / projects.

It's going to be interesting to see which way the team goes.  I still expect Wafer to make the team out of camp, primarily due to the Delonte suspension and the team's need for shooting.  With Delonte out, the only guy with range on the bench is Nate (assuming that Harangody isn't seeing a lot of time).

However, Lasme definitely has done what the team has asked of him.  I'm disappointed that he hasn't been a better rebounder, but he hustles and brings energy to the team.  It wouldn't shock me if the team kept him, if for no other reason than he brings better chemistry than Wafer.

but wafer can't hit the shots

His shooting was a little better last night, and he picked up his aggression.  There's a difference between Wafer's so-far poor shooting, and the inability to shoot that a lot of our other guys have.  Wafer has the range, he just needs to find it.

Yeah, I actually thought he played much better last night (although I do have concerns about the last few minutes).  He seemed to be more comfortable in the offense, and even showed some decent defense.  This is going to be a tough decision.

[Induna]

I can't believe people are arguing so much over this.  This is like Brandon Wallace part 2.  If Lasme makes the team, everyone realizes he is NOT going to play right? We don't have minutes for this guy.  He is not a good offensive player at the 3 position.  Marquis Daniels may not be as talented defensively as Lasme, but he's much better offensively.  As of right now, Marquis Daniels and Ray Allen are going to be getting most of the back up 3 minutes.  Even if Lasme makes this team, he will not be an active roster guy.  As people have pointed out, he's already 28 and his offensive game has not improved.  He is someone you take a chance on if you're the LA Clippers, not the Boston Celtics.

First of all I think Lasme is showing more than Wallace did - also not sure about the point of the post. No one is saying that Lasme will be on the active roster they are discussing who gets the 15th slot and why they might get it. Surely people can discuss that?

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I'll say that if he makes the roster the goal will be to have him active and available by the year's end.  It's reasonable to figure two guys may be out due to injury and that leaves only one player to be inactive.  That could just as well end up being Luke or Bradley, with Lasme valued for his defense on big 3's.  Out of camp he could be slotted as the third 3 and we know Marquis could well be hurt during the year.

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Here's an interesting quote from Lasme:

"“I’ve had a couple of good coaches who have tried to develop my game in the summer, and I think it’s worked out pretty good,” said Lasme. “I’ve worked a lot on my ball-handling and shooting. I know I haven’t shot the ball (from the outside) yet, but I’ve worked a lot on those two aspects. The more I play, the more I’m going to get a chance to show that.”"

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/10/12/stephane-lasmes-added-motivation/

[the_Bird]

I'll say that if he makes the roster the goal will be to have him active and available by the year's end.  It's reasonable to figure two guys may be out due to injury and that leaves only one player to be inactive.  That could just as well end up being Luke or Bradley, with Lasme valued for his defense on big 3's.  Out of camp he could be slotted as the third 3 and we know Marquis could well be hurt during the year.

Lasme's making the team.  At this point, I'd really be shocked if he doesn't.  He'll spend most of the year in Maine developing his perimeter game, but we're seeing that his athleticism is translating into an ability to play NBA-level defense on bigger SFs.  

At the very least, he can probably step in to the role that guys like Mario West carve out - a deep-bench guy to play a couple of minutes of D.  And, he's still got some upside to at least pick up a few garbage points here and there.  

Incidentally, Mario West has no chance of making this team now; Lasme seems like an equally-good defender, but better able to match up with larger 3s.

Quis *will* get hurt again, we know that.  When that happens, Pierce will play more minutes, and Doc will probably go to a three-guard lineup when he's taking a breather (with either Delonte or Ray playing "SF").  We can get by with that against most teams in the league, but matched up against LeBron or Carmelo, be nice to be able to call on Lasme to at least make their lives difficult for four or five minutes.  

Put Lasme out there with guys who can shoot, and he'll be OK.  Let him go after offensive rebounds, get some putbacks, but mostly keep the ball moving on offense.  He seems like a smart player.  

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I'll say that if he makes the roster the goal will be to have him active and available by the year's end.  It's reasonable to figure two guys may be out due to injury and that leaves only one player to be inactive.  That could just as well end up being Luke or Bradley, with Lasme valued for his defense on big 3's.  Out of camp he could be slotted as the third 3 and we know Marquis could well be hurt during the year.

Lasme's making the team.  At this point, I'd really be shocked if he doesn't.  He'll spend most of the year in Maine developing his perimeter game, but we're seeing that his athleticism is translating into an ability to play NBA-level defense on bigger SFs.  

At the very least, he can probably step in to the role that guys like Mario West carve out - a deep-bench guy to play a couple of minutes of D.  And, he's still got some upside to at least pick up a few garbage points here and there.  

Incidentally, Mario West has no chance of making this team now; Lasme seems like an equally-good defender, but better able to match up with larger 3s.

Quis *will* get hurt again, we know that.  When that happens, Pierce will play more minutes, and Doc will probably go to a three-guard lineup when he's taking a breather (with either Delonte or Ray playing "SF").  We can get by with that against most teams in the league, but matched up against LeBron or Carmelo, be nice to be able to call on Lasme to at least make their lives difficult for four or five minutes.  

Put Lasme out there with guys who can shoot, and he'll be OK.  Let him go after offensive rebounds, get some putbacks, but mostly keep the ball moving on offense.  He seems like a smart player.  

I bet there'll be some 4's he'll be there best guy to match up against as well.

[the_Bird]

I'll say that if he makes the roster the goal will be to have him active and available by the year's end.  It's reasonable to figure two guys may be out due to injury and that leaves only one player to be inactive.  That could just as well end up being Luke or Bradley, with Lasme valued for his defense on big 3's.  Out of camp he could be slotted as the third 3 and we know Marquis could well be hurt during the year.

Lasme's making the team.  At this point, I'd really be shocked if he doesn't.  He'll spend most of the year in Maine developing his perimeter game, but we're seeing that his athleticism is translating into an ability to play NBA-level defense on bigger SFs.  

At the very least, he can probably step in to the role that guys like Mario West carve out - a deep-bench guy to play a couple of minutes of D.  And, he's still got some upside to at least pick up a few garbage points here and there.  

Incidentally, Mario West has no chance of making this team now; Lasme seems like an equally-good defender, but better able to match up with larger 3s.

Quis *will* get hurt again, we know that.  When that happens, Pierce will play more minutes, and Doc will probably go to a three-guard lineup when he's taking a breather (with either Delonte or Ray playing "SF").  We can get by with that against most teams in the league, but matched up against LeBron or Carmelo, be nice to be able to call on Lasme to at least make their lives difficult for four or five minutes.  

Put Lasme out there with guys who can shoot, and he'll be OK.  Let him go after offensive rebounds, get some putbacks, but mostly keep the ball moving on offense.  He seems like a smart player.  

I bet there'll be some 4's he'll be there best guy to match up against as well.

Sure, you wouldn't want to rely on him a lot against a team like the Lakers, but he could be a good defender on a player like Lamar Odom.  Even just as an end-of-bench guy to play the last defensive possession of a quarter, I could see him getting into some games. 

[CelticG1]

One reason I love this guy is that being the 15th player he still seems like he could come into games in very limited minutes and still have an impact. He seems like a guy you could just throw out there for a couple minutes and would end up with a couple baskets and a block.

He kind of reminds me of Leon Powe in that aspect. When Powe wasn't getting much playing time for us when the big 3 first came in, he still seemed to have a positive impact in his limited minutes. We would put Powe in if we were in foul trouble and it seemed more often than not he would get a couple offensive rebounds and a couple buckets.

I feel like Wafer does not really fit into this category. He seems like he needs playing time to get into a flow. I feel like you could just throw Lasme out there in any situation and he will add some positives. He doesn't need to be in an ideal situation he can just play.

As the 15th man on the roster this seems like a good guy to have on the team