Official Discuss your CB Draft team

[StartOrien]

Personally, I think Roy slighted atleast 23 teams.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Personally, I think Roy slighted atleast 23 teams.

Ha! I'm glad we're all on the same page. I was surprised that more of those teams haven't just gone ahead and made their own top eight lists - avoid groupthink.

But then I'm the misunderstood draft genius of CB.

PF Al Horford/ Linas Kleiza
SF Gerald Wallace/ Dorrell Wright
C DeMarcus Cousins/ Antonio McDyess/ Timofey Mozgov
SG Eric Gordon/ Raja Bell/ Elliot Williams
PG Jrue Holiday/ Beno Udrih

Coach Stan Van Gundy

[Roy H.]

I'd be curious to hear people's opinions on the best lineup / rotation to put together with this group of talent:

C:  Big Z / Petro
PF: Boozer / Bargnani / Hansborough
SF: Lewis / Jefferson / Jeffries
SG: Lee / Garcia
PG: Rose / Teague

At least it looks like a legitimate team.  Good enough.

[StartOrien]

I'm going to guess that most teams that expressed dissapointment in being 'slighted' saw their names not on the list and didn't bother to compare the other teams.

Whereas I felt slighted, didn't bother to look at the other teams and then bought an iced coffee.

[riah32]

I'd be curious to hear people's opinions on the best lineup / rotation to put together with this group of talent:

C:  Big Z / Petro
PF: Boozer / Bargnani / Hansborough
SF: Lewis / Jefferson / Jeffries
SG: Lee / Garcia
PG: Rose / Teague

At least it looks like a legitimate team.  Good enough.

I dont think Big Z is starter material anymore. Which leaves you thin on bigs.

[Who]

I'd be curious to hear people's opinions on the best lineup / rotation to put together with this group of talent:

C:  Big Z / Petro
PF: Boozer / Bargnani / Hansborough
SF: Lewis / Jefferson / Jeffries
SG: Lee / Garcia
PG: Rose / Teague

At least it looks like a legitimate team.  Good enough.

There are a couple of different lineups you could use. Not sure any one of them is any better than the other though. They look fairly comparable overall, just achieve their end result in different ways.

• Go big up front with Boozer + Petro, or, Boozer + Bargnani.
• Go smaller with Boozer + Hansbrough, or, Boozer + Lewis.

I wouldn't start Ilgauskas and I would consider moving Garcia into the starting lineup instead of Courtney Lee on the small lineups.

[Who]

I'd be curious to hear people's opinions on the best lineup / rotation to put together with this group of talent:

C:  Big Z / Petro
PF: Boozer / Bargnani / Hansborough
SF: Lewis / Jefferson / Jeffries
SG: Lee / Garcia
PG: Rose / Teague

At least it looks like a legitimate team.  Good enough.

I dont think Big Z is starter material anymore. Which leaves you thin on bigs.

I like the idea of trying to trade Richard Jefferson. I don't like how he fits in offensively alongside Derrick Rose. Even less so with two other talented scorers in Boozer and Rashard Lewis there.

Or maybe coupling Jefferson up with Bargnani to bring an upgrade to your big men. Preferably an above average defender.

[Roy H.]

I'd be curious to hear people's opinions on the best lineup / rotation to put together with this group of talent:

C:  Big Z / Petro
PF: Boozer / Bargnani / Hansborough
SF: Lewis / Jefferson / Jeffries
SG: Lee / Garcia
PG: Rose / Teague

At least it looks like a legitimate team.  Good enough.

I dont think Big Z is starter material anymore. Which leaves you thin on bigs.

No doubt the team is a bit thin up front, but also very talented.  Lewis and Jeffries can play PF, and Boozer and Bargnani can play center.

[indeedproceed]

Personally, I think Roy slighted atleast 23 teams.

Ha! I'm glad we're all on the same page. I was surprised that more of those teams haven't just gone ahead and made their own top eight lists - avoid groupthink.

But then I'm the misunderstood draft genius of CB.

PF Al Horford/ Linas Kleiza
SF Gerald Wallace/ Dorrell Wright
C DeMarcus Cousins/ Antonio McDyess/ Timofey Mozgov
SG Eric Gordon/ Raja Bell/ Elliot Williams
PG Jrue Holiday/ Beno Udrih

Coach Stan Van Gundy

Talent-wise there isn't a lot of things I can fault your team for. Everyone on your roster looks like they either are or will be a average NBA player at worst, to All-Star at best.

The thing that bothers me is 1) They're super young, and without a leader that commands respect. McDyess is a lockerroom gentleman, but he's not going to want to mentor a young group of guys anymore. Raja Bell is a good-ish player still, but he's not going to be a leader in this lockerroom either.

Eric Gordon, Horford, presumably Cousins if the hype is right all have the goods to be starters on a contending team, and if one or two of these guys were vocal leaders at 26-30 years old even at their current skill levels, I bet your team would vault from "Good team, probably makes playoffs" to "Contender".

Without that anchoring presence though I have a hard time seeing you in the title conversation. Kinda like how everyone knows that based on talent alone, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, and Marvin Williams/Josh Childress are about as talented as the Celtics top 4 players, but the Celtics are better at using and directing what they have.

Well were as talented anyways. After the year Rondo just had that's a hard line to defend anymore.

I think the Hawks also are a good team to compare to. I think you'll make the playoffs, and might make it past the first round, but not the second.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Personally, I think Roy slighted atleast 23 teams.

Ha! I'm glad we're all on the same page. I was surprised that more of those teams haven't just gone ahead and made their own top eight lists - avoid groupthink.

But then I'm the misunderstood draft genius of CB.

PF Al Horford/ Linas Kleiza
SF Gerald Wallace/ Dorrell Wright
C DeMarcus Cousins/ Antonio McDyess/ Timofey Mozgov
SG Eric Gordon/ Raja Bell/ Elliot Williams
PG Jrue Holiday/ Beno Udrih

Coach Stan Van Gundy

The thing that bothers me is 1) They're super young, and without a leader that commands respect. McDyess is a lockerroom gentleman, but he's not going to want to mentor a young group of guys anymore. Raja Bell is a good-ish player still, but he's not going to be a leader in this lockerroom either.

First, I appreciate the feedback. I'll be sure to take a hard look at the Bulls next.

In response to your concerns, I'd first point to team captain Gerald Wallace. He's been the Bobcats captain since 2006, is an All-Star, the best defensive player on the best defensive team in the NBA last year and led Charlotte to 44 wins and a 7th seed with a far less impressive cast of talent.

Then I'd point to my underrated second All-Star Al Horford's - possibly overlooked - locker room influence.

"Only a very small percentage of young guys can come into this league and lead. The ones who do usually are the focal point of their team. Al’s different.”

“I did it at Florida when I felt I had to. I did it in high school. I’m not going to name names. But if I see that somebody is not necessarily putting in the effort or is slacking off and it’s noticeable, I’m going to say something. Usually I’m very mellow. But sometimes I think something needs to be said, even if I put it out there in front of the whole team, even to the point where the guys might be mad at me for a day or two. I think it’s for the best.”

Last I'd underline my choice of Stan Van Gundy in the first year where we're giving coaching choices consideration - over-prepared, over-burdening, but a firm hand on the rudder. Will leave his stamp on the team and led a similarly assembled Magic team to the 2009 NBA Finals.

"And you better know this: The reason we won the Eastern Conference is because he goaded and nagged this team -- he got them to stop with the short-cutting, and the lazy habits, and the sloppiness."

[indeedproceed]

Personally, I think Roy slighted atleast 23 teams.

Ha! I'm glad we're all on the same page. I was surprised that more of those teams haven't just gone ahead and made their own top eight lists - avoid groupthink.

But then I'm the misunderstood draft genius of CB.

PF Al Horford/ Linas Kleiza
SF Gerald Wallace/ Dorrell Wright
C DeMarcus Cousins/ Antonio McDyess/ Timofey Mozgov
SG Eric Gordon/ Raja Bell/ Elliot Williams
PG Jrue Holiday/ Beno Udrih

Coach Stan Van Gundy

The thing that bothers me is 1) They're super young, and without a leader that commands respect. McDyess is a lockerroom gentleman, but he's not going to want to mentor a young group of guys anymore. Raja Bell is a good-ish player still, but he's not going to be a leader in this lockerroom either.

First, I appreciate the feedback. I'll be sure to take a hard look at the Bulls next.

In response to your concerns, I'd first point to Team Captain Gerald Wallace, who was an All-Star, the best defensive player on the best defensive team in the NBA last year and led the Charlotte Bobcats to 44 wins and a 7th seed with a far less impressive cast of talent. Not a fan of Wallace?

I believe you're also underrating my second All-Star Al Horford's locker room influence.

"Only a very small percentage of young guys can come into this league and lead. The ones who do usually are the focal point of their team. Al’s different.”

“I did it at Florida when I felt I had to. I did it in high school. I’m not going to name names. But if I see that somebody is not necessarily putting in the effort or is slacking off and it’s noticeable, I’m going to say something. Usually I’m very mellow. But sometimes I think something needs to be said, even if I put it out there in front of the whole team, even to the point where the guys might be mad at me for a day or two. I think it’s for the best.”

Last I'd point to Stan Van Gundy in the first year where we're giving coaching choices consideration.

Al Horford I am underestimating a bit maybe.

I'm personally not factoring in coaches at all, and I don't think others should either. Not when the choices can but guys like Danny Ainge, Coach K, or Rudy T, none of who will ever under any scenario set foot on an NBA sideline.

Still though I stick to my guns. Look at the successful teams in the league. Cleveland: LeBron, Boston: We know, LA: Kobe, Utah: Williams, Phoenix: Nash, Hill, Orlando: Dwight...

They all have either elite talent alpha dog younger guys, elite talent alpha dog older guys, or both.

A lot of other teams can make the playoffs with different mixes, and some teams can make the playoffs and succeed with different mixes, but no conference champion in recent memory has had anything like your current mix of talent, and that's what makes me hesitant.

[The Walker Wiggle]

I'm personally not factoring in coaches at all, and I don't think others should either. Not when the choices can but guys like Danny Ainge, Coach K, or Rudy T, none of who will ever under any scenario set foot on an NBA sideline.

Can't argue with that, but am curious if this is the popular sentiment?

Still though I stick to my guns. Look at the successful teams in the league. Cleveland: LeBron, Boston: We know, LA: Kobe, Utah: Williams, Phoenix: Nash, Hill, Orlando: Dwight...

They all have either elite talent alpha dog younger guys, elite talent alpha dog older guys, or both.

Well I'd distinguish between franchise talent and leaders. Crash is as much a leader - by example and in the locker room - as Dwight Howard or Deron Williams. But he's not nearly the talent. Cousins is a franchise talent, but not going to lead this team.

I'm certainly working against the perception that a team has to have one of a handful of elite players to win. But that's been a more wide-ranging debate that's run through the last three CB Drafts.

[indeedproceed]

I'm personally not factoring in coaches at all, and I don't think others should either. Not when the choices can but guys like Danny Ainge, Coach K, or Rudy T, none of who will ever under any scenario set foot on an NBA sideline.

Can't argue with that, but am curious if this is the popular sentiment?

Still though I stick to my guns. Look at the successful teams in the league. Cleveland: LeBron, Boston: We know, LA: Kobe, Utah: Williams, Phoenix: Nash, Hill, Orlando: Dwight...

They all have either elite talent alpha dog younger guys, elite talent alpha dog older guys, or both.

Well I'd distinguish between franchise talent and leaders. Crash is as much a leader - by example and in the locker room - as Dwight Howard or Deron Williams. But he's not nearly the talent. Cousins is a franchise talent, but not going to lead this team.

I'm certainly working against the perception that a team has to have one of a handful of elite players to win. But that's been a more wide-ranging debate that's run through the last three CB Drafts.

Fair enough. If you want to swim against the current, more power to you. Only dead things float downstream, afterall.

[Lucky17]

I'd be curious to hear people's opinions on the best lineup / rotation to put together with this group of talent:

C:  Big Z / Petro
PF: Boozer / Bargnani / Hansborough
SF: Lewis / Jefferson / Jeffries
SG: Lee / Garcia
PG: Rose / Teague

At least it looks like a legitimate team.  Good enough.

I start Bargs at C next to Boozer.

I consider a smallball lineup of Lewis at PF and Boozer at C, allow you to bring Jefferson in as SF.

I also consider starting Garcia over Lee, for defensive purposes. I think Lee would be more confident and effective off the bench.

[JSD]

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Portland Trailblazers

Coach: Jerry Sloan

Starters
C- Brook Lopez
PF - Derrick Favors
SF - Thaddeus Young
SG - Evan Turner
PG - Goran Dragic

Sixth Man
C - Spencer Hawes

Bench
PF - Matt Bonner
SF - Luke Walton
SG - Maurice Evans
PG - Jason Williams

The rights to Ricky Rubio.
The rights to Sergio Rodriguez

Total Payroll -  $30.783 Million

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- 2 HIGH level rookies prospects.
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