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[Who]

My team is a playoff team, I have the best point guard in the league. When was the last time the best player at any position in the NBA didn't at least make the playoffs? How about the second best player at any position? It just doesn't happen. That's not to say I don't have good defensive veterans throughout the team and young athletic fliers to run with Deron.

I understand that some people don't view my team as a contender for a championship but for me to not make the playoffs is ridiculous.

I think your squad 9th or 10th in the West. Just outside the playoffs.

I think your team is a playoff caliber team in normal circumstances but there were a lot of very good teams in the West in this fantasy game and I thought they offered a little bit more than your roster.

The main reason why I did not put your team in the playoffs is Josh Howard. I don't have confidence in him to return from his injury and play at a high level anymore. I still like his defensive ability but I question his ability to be a good go-to scorer (efficiency?) + I don't think he can rebound his position (SF) anymore.

If Josh Howard did come back healthy + was able to regain his form of a few years ago ... I would have Minny in the playoffs.

I don't think he needs to be a go to scorer anymore, he will be the recipient of playing with Deron Williams which will help his scoring.

If you can't be sold on him Stackhouse was a contributing member of a playoff team at the same position. Quis showed that when healthy he can play good ball at the same position (pre all star break). Then I have Gordon Hayward who will be starting for a Jazz playoff team who can come in and fill the position. Also I have Xavier Henry who had great production for Kansas as a freshman last year and should get open shots with Deron running the show.

All of those players are solid contributors for their roles ... but none are impact players.

A four man core of Deron + high quality wing + J.Smith + Haywood is a very impressive foundation.

A three man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood is solid but unexceptional (surefire playoff team in normal circumstances).

I think you need Josh Howard to be ... maybe not an All-Star but at least a notch or two below that ... to be an impact player ... for your squad to be comparable to the other playoff teams in the West.

I also think Howard's scoring is important to your side. The balance it provides.

[Evantime34]

My team is a playoff team, I have the best point guard in the league. When was the last time the best player at any position in the NBA didn't at least make the playoffs? How about the second best player at any position? It just doesn't happen. That's not to say I don't have good defensive veterans throughout the team and young athletic fliers to run with Deron.

I understand that some people don't view my team as a contender for a championship but for me to not make the playoffs is ridiculous.

I think your squad 9th or 10th in the West. Just outside the playoffs.

I think your team is a playoff caliber team in normal circumstances but there were a lot of very good teams in the West in this fantasy game and I thought they offered a little bit more than your roster.

The main reason why I did not put your team in the playoffs is Josh Howard. I don't have confidence in him to return from his injury and play at a high level anymore. I still like his defensive ability but I question his ability to be a good go-to scorer (efficiency?) + I don't think he can rebound his position (SF) anymore.

If Josh Howard did come back healthy + was able to regain his form of a few years ago ... I would have Minny in the playoffs.

I don't think he needs to be a go to scorer anymore, he will be the recipient of playing with Deron Williams which will help his scoring.
If you can't be sold on him Stackhouse was a contributing member of a playoff team at the same position. Quis showed that when healthy he can play good ball at the same position (pre all star break). Then I have Gordon Hayward who will be starting for a Jazz playoff team who can come in and fill the position. Also I have Xavier Henry who had great production for Kansas as a freshman last year and should get open shots with Deron running the show.

Any thoughts on giving Xavier Henry some minutes at the 3? He's awfully undersized, but it's another look for your team.

I think him being undersized could be all right in the up tempo system I run. especially with two top 10 shot blockers behind him in the post.

We will use whatever lineup is best to our advantage in a given game. If you like one of my lineups more than the other and you think it makes my team better, assume I am going to use that lineup. I will run whatever line up will get your vote.

[Evantime34]

My team is a playoff team, I have the best point guard in the league. When was the last time the best player at any position in the NBA didn't at least make the playoffs? How about the second best player at any position? It just doesn't happen. That's not to say I don't have good defensive veterans throughout the team and young athletic fliers to run with Deron.

I understand that some people don't view my team as a contender for a championship but for me to not make the playoffs is ridiculous.

I think your squad 9th or 10th in the West. Just outside the playoffs.

I think your team is a playoff caliber team in normal circumstances but there were a lot of very good teams in the West in this fantasy game and I thought they offered a little bit more than your roster.

The main reason why I did not put your team in the playoffs is Josh Howard. I don't have confidence in him to return from his injury and play at a high level anymore. I still like his defensive ability but I question his ability to be a good go-to scorer (efficiency?) + I don't think he can rebound his position (SF) anymore.

If Josh Howard did come back healthy + was able to regain his form of a few years ago ... I would have Minny in the playoffs.

I don't think he needs to be a go to scorer anymore, he will be the recipient of playing with Deron Williams which will help his scoring.

If you can't be sold on him Stackhouse was a contributing member of a playoff team at the same position. Quis showed that when healthy he can play good ball at the same position (pre all star break). Then I have Gordon Hayward who will be starting for a Jazz playoff team who can come in and fill the position. Also I have Xavier Henry who had great production for Kansas as a freshman last year and should get open shots with Deron running the show.

All of those players are solid contributors for their roles ... but none are impact players.

A four man core of Deron + high quality wing + J.Smith + Haywood is a very impressive foundation.

A three man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood is solid but unexceptional (surefire playoff team in normal circumstances).

I think you need Josh Howard to be ... maybe not an All-Star but at least a notch or two below that ... to be an impact player ... for your squad to be comparable to the other playoff teams in the West.

I also think Howard's scoring is important to your side. The balance it provides.

What about a 4 man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood and an explosive scorer? (Beaubois) By not mentioning him I assume you are not high on him. He has the type of talent that last year at the trading deadline he and Dirk were the only untouchables on the Mavs. He is good enough that they plan to push Shawn Marion to the bench so he can start. Many on the french National team believe he is currently better than Tony Parker. Get on the Beaubois bandwagon now, because if you don't I'm not sure I'll let you on later.

[Who]

My team is a playoff team, I have the best point guard in the league. When was the last time the best player at any position in the NBA didn't at least make the playoffs? How about the second best player at any position? It just doesn't happen. That's not to say I don't have good defensive veterans throughout the team and young athletic fliers to run with Deron.

I understand that some people don't view my team as a contender for a championship but for me to not make the playoffs is ridiculous.

I think your squad 9th or 10th in the West. Just outside the playoffs.

I think your team is a playoff caliber team in normal circumstances but there were a lot of very good teams in the West in this fantasy game and I thought they offered a little bit more than your roster.

The main reason why I did not put your team in the playoffs is Josh Howard. I don't have confidence in him to return from his injury and play at a high level anymore. I still like his defensive ability but I question his ability to be a good go-to scorer (efficiency?) + I don't think he can rebound his position (SF) anymore.

If Josh Howard did come back healthy + was able to regain his form of a few years ago ... I would have Minny in the playoffs.

I don't think he needs to be a go to scorer anymore, he will be the recipient of playing with Deron Williams which will help his scoring.

If you can't be sold on him Stackhouse was a contributing member of a playoff team at the same position. Quis showed that when healthy he can play good ball at the same position (pre all star break). Then I have Gordon Hayward who will be starting for a Jazz playoff team who can come in and fill the position. Also I have Xavier Henry who had great production for Kansas as a freshman last year and should get open shots with Deron running the show.

All of those players are solid contributors for their roles ... but none are impact players.

A four man core of Deron + high quality wing + J.Smith + Haywood is a very impressive foundation.

A three man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood is solid but unexceptional (surefire playoff team in normal circumstances).

I think you need Josh Howard to be ... maybe not an All-Star but at least a notch or two below that ... to be an impact player ... for your squad to be comparable to the other playoff teams in the West.

I also think Howard's scoring is important to your side. The balance it provides.

What about a 4 man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood and an explosive scorer? (Beaubois) By not mentioning him I assume you are not high on him. He has the type of talent that last year at the trading deadline he and Dirk were the only untouchables on the Mavs. He is good enough that they plan to push Shawn Marion to the bench so he can start. Many on the french National team believe he is currently better than Tony Parker. Get on the Beaubois bandwagon now, because if you don't I'm not sure I'll let you on later.

I think we talked about Beaubois before ... I am high on him as a PG but not as a SG.

I think he can be that impact player as a point (strong two way player) but not as a SG (defense/rebounding liability).

[wdleehi]

Here is my rankings


East
1 Bulls
2 Toronto
3 Atlanta
4 Bucks
5 Orl
6 NY
7 Pacers
8 Celtics
9 DC
10 Charlotte
11 Boston
12 NJ
13 Miami
14 Clev.



West

1) Utah
2 Phoenix
3 Clippers
4 Kings
5 Denver
6 SA
7 NO
8 Lakers
9 GS
10 Rockets
11 T-Wolves
12 Portland
13 OC
14 Memphis
15 Dallas

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Da Bullz.

[Evantime34]

My team is a playoff team, I have the best point guard in the league. When was the last time the best player at any position in the NBA didn't at least make the playoffs? How about the second best player at any position? It just doesn't happen. That's not to say I don't have good defensive veterans throughout the team and young athletic fliers to run with Deron.

I understand that some people don't view my team as a contender for a championship but for me to not make the playoffs is ridiculous.

I think your squad 9th or 10th in the West. Just outside the playoffs.

I think your team is a playoff caliber team in normal circumstances but there were a lot of very good teams in the West in this fantasy game and I thought they offered a little bit more than your roster.

The main reason why I did not put your team in the playoffs is Josh Howard. I don't have confidence in him to return from his injury and play at a high level anymore. I still like his defensive ability but I question his ability to be a good go-to scorer (efficiency?) + I don't think he can rebound his position (SF) anymore.

If Josh Howard did come back healthy + was able to regain his form of a few years ago ... I would have Minny in the playoffs.

I don't think he needs to be a go to scorer anymore, he will be the recipient of playing with Deron Williams which will help his scoring.

If you can't be sold on him Stackhouse was a contributing member of a playoff team at the same position. Quis showed that when healthy he can play good ball at the same position (pre all star break). Then I have Gordon Hayward who will be starting for a Jazz playoff team who can come in and fill the position. Also I have Xavier Henry who had great production for Kansas as a freshman last year and should get open shots with Deron running the show.

All of those players are solid contributors for their roles ... but none are impact players.

A four man core of Deron + high quality wing + J.Smith + Haywood is a very impressive foundation.

A three man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood is solid but unexceptional (surefire playoff team in normal circumstances).

I think you need Josh Howard to be ... maybe not an All-Star but at least a notch or two below that ... to be an impact player ... for your squad to be comparable to the other playoff teams in the West.

I also think Howard's scoring is important to your side. The balance it provides.

What about a 4 man core of Deron + Smith + Haywood and an explosive scorer? (Beaubois) By not mentioning him I assume you are not high on him. He has the type of talent that last year at the trading deadline he and Dirk were the only untouchables on the Mavs. He is good enough that they plan to push Shawn Marion to the bench so he can start. Many on the french National team believe he is currently better than Tony Parker. Get on the Beaubois bandwagon now, because if you don't I'm not sure I'll let you on later.

I think we talked about Beaubois before ... I am high on him as a PG but not as a SG.

I think he can be that impact player as a point (two way player) but not as a SG (defense/rebounding liability).

O I forgot we discussed this. Well let me counter that.

He is an elite scorer not a distributor so I sg is his natural position. He will play under 2's and bother their dribbles. In my opinion the worst way a smaller defender gets hurt is a back down in the post. I have two top 10 shot blockers on the court at once to prevent those back downs. As far as rebounding at the 2, Beaubois has enough rise to go up and get the ball, but he doesn't need to. Haywood and Smith are both very good rebounders good for top 20 in the league. Josh Howard is a very good rebounder for the SF position so I don't think Beaubois' rebounding deficiency will be a problem.
To keep Beaubois on the wing we will run some zone which allows him to do what he does best on defense, harass the ball.

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He is an elite scorer not a distributor so I sg is his natural position. He will play under 2's and bother their dribbles. In my opinion the worst way a smaller defender gets hurt is a back down in the post. I have two top 10 shot blockers on the court at once to prevent those back downs.

Back downs are not going to be the issue. Maybe if a coach has a guy with the right skill-set (Kobe), but the real issue will be that much like the current Mavericks, your PG will end up playing out of position and busting his can on bigger players. Deron Williams will be able to handle it a lot of time during a game, but it is not ideal.

EDIT: I'm saying Deron will end up having to guard SG's, while Beaubois at all of 6'nothin guards the PG's.

[Evantime34]

He is an elite scorer not a distributor so I sg is his natural position. He will play under 2's and bother their dribbles. In my opinion the worst way a smaller defender gets hurt is a back down in the post. I have two top 10 shot blockers on the court at once to prevent those back downs.

Back downs are not going to be the issue. Maybe if a coach has a guy with the right skill-set (Kobe), but the real issue will be that much like the current Mavericks, your PG will end up playing out of position and busting his can on bigger players. Deron Williams will be able to handle it a lot of time during a game, but it is not ideal.

I feel like the zone negates this in that the wing defenders will just have to do what they are comfortable doing, guard the ball on the wings.
The scoring that Beaubois will give us more than makes up for playing Deron out of position.

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I feel like the zone negates this in that the wing defenders will just have to do what they are comfortable doing, guard the ball on the wings.

Are you saying you're going to play a zone defense?

What, did you hire Boeheim or something as your coach?

[indeedproceed]

East
1 Bulls
2 Toronto
3 Atlanta
4 Bucks
5 Orl
6 NY
7 Pacers
8 Celtics
9 DC
10 Charlotte
11 Boston
12 NJ
13 Miami
14 Clev.

Question: How does Cleveland finish last? Carmlo+Ellis as the headlines, then Jason THompson and Troy Murphy in the post seems pretty decent to me.

[Kwhit10]

How many points will be given up on illegal D's?

[indeedproceed]

How many points will be given up on illegal D's?

That's negated by the butte-fawr principal.

[Evantime34]

I feel like the zone negates this in that the wing defenders will just have to do what they are comfortable doing, guard the ball on the wings.

Are you saying you're going to play a zone defense?

What, did you hire Boeheim or something as your coach?

How many points will be given up on illegal D's?

No more than the average team. Our base defense will be a 3-2 or a 1-2-2. Since you don't have someone under the hoop an illegal defense call is unlikely. The best zone defenses have man principles and vice versa, the 3-2 defense is closest to the man defense that is normally played in the NBA and shouldn't be much of a problem to implement.

This is not to say we will run all zone defense but more so than the average team.

[indeedproceed]

I feel like the zone negates this in that the wing defenders will just have to do what they are comfortable doing, guard the ball on the wings.

Are you saying you're going to play a zone defense?

What, did you hire Boeheim or something as your coach?

How many points will be given up on illegal D's?

No more than the average team. Our base defense will be a 3-2 or a 1-2-2. Since you don't have someone under the hoop an illegal defense call is unlikely. The best zone defenses have man principles and vice versa, the 3-2 defense is closest to the man defense that is normally played in the NBA and shouldn't be much of a problem to implement.

This is not to say we will run all zone defense but more so than the average team.

I think this:

The scoring that Beaubois will give us more than makes up for playing Deron out of position.

Is a lot better defense of Beaubois than what scheme you'll be playing on the other side of the ball.