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I think we're on a collision course with Shaq
« on: July 29, 2010, 10:43:05 PM »

Offline fairweatherfan06

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Atlanta just resigned Jason Collins, so that makes them all full at the center position.  And that seemed to be the only other team, besides the Celtics trying to get Shaq on the squad.  Not sure what kind of money or years it would take, but its looking like as his options narrow down the Celtics become a greater possibility. I still hope Rudy Fernandez happens to though, since the East is becoming something of an "arms race".

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 10:54:03 PM »

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Well, Collins is hardly a stud, so I wouldn't rule the Hawks out yet because Collins is "blocking" Shaq from joining. 

Still, if Danny doesn't plan on upgrading the 2/3 anymore, Shaq is looking more and more like a good idea.  Simply put, we need enough firepower on the bench so that Doc can rest Paul and Ray for more than 10 mpg each (ideally something closer to 15+ mpg).  I don't see Wafer/Daniels/Bradley doing that for us. 

However, if you bring Shaq into the equation, it changes things.  Throw him in the post and all of the sudden Von Wafer doesn't need to create his own shot, because he'll be getting better looks with Shaq in the post. 

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 10:59:34 PM »

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Well, Collins is hardly a stud, so I wouldn't rule the Hawks out yet because Collins is "blocking" Shaq from joining. 

Still, if Danny doesn't plan on upgrading the 2/3 anymore, Shaq is looking more and more like a good idea.  Simply put, we need enough firepower on the bench so that Doc can rest Paul and Ray for more than 10 mpg each (ideally something closer to 15+ mpg).  I don't see Wafer/Daniels/Bradley doing that for us. 

However, if you bring Shaq into the equation, it changes things.  Throw him in the post and all of the sudden Von Wafer doesn't need to create his own shot, because he'll be getting better looks with Shaq in the post. 

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Stole the words right out of my mouth. Add Shaq in the mix, and now there's shooters everywhere - Nate,Von and even Harangody if he gets minutes. And there's no player in this league not named Dwight that could better fill Perk's shoes to start the season
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 11:15:33 PM »

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Wouldn't Shaq be the best defender of Dwight?  Dwight muscles his way into the paint where he scores and he can't shoot which is good because Shaq can't really guard shooting big men. 

We have a really good chance of playing Orlando in the playoffs unless they get beat by MIA first. 

It seems clear that Rudy is our plan A and Shaq is plan B.  Only because Sheed's contract can only net one of those players. 

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Lots of drama for one locker room (or one lineup). Nate, Von W, BBD and Shaq !?

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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 11:17:16 PM »

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Wouldn't Shaq be the best defender of Dwight?  Dwight muscles his way into the paint where he scores and he can't shoot which is good because Shaq can't really guard shooting big men. 

We have a really good chance of playing Orlando in the playoffs unless they get beat by MIA first. 

It seems clear that Rudy is our plan A and Shaq is plan B.  Only because Sheed's contract can only net one of those players. 


Not necessarily.  Fernandez makes less than 2 million per year, which means that Wallace's deal can't be traded for Rudy unless Portland wants to give us someone else. 

So it is possible we could get Rudy for a pick (and filler contracts like Gaffney and Lafayette) and Shaq for Wallace. 

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 11:20:14 PM »

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Lots of drama for one locker room (or one lineup). Nate, Von W, BBD and Shaq !?


or a lot of funny press conferences..   ;D
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 11:21:15 PM »

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Wouldn't Shaq be the best defender of Dwight?  Dwight muscles his way into the paint where he scores and he can't shoot which is good because Shaq can't really guard shooting big men. 

We have a really good chance of playing Orlando in the playoffs unless they get beat by MIA first. 

It seems clear that Rudy is our plan A and Shaq is plan B.  Only because Sheed's contract can only net one of those players. 


Not necessarily.  Fernandez makes less than 2 million per year, which means that Wallace's deal can't be traded for Rudy unless Portland wants to give us someone else. 

So it is possible we could get Rudy for a pick (and filler contracts like Gaffney and Lafayette) and Shaq for Wallace. 

I was thinking about this earlier and I hope that this is exactly how it shapes out.

Rudy for a pick and Shaq for Sheed's contract.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 11:22:26 PM »

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Well, Collins is hardly a stud, so I wouldn't rule the Hawks out yet because Collins is "blocking" Shaq from joining. 

Still, if Danny doesn't plan on upgrading the 2/3 anymore, Shaq is looking more and more like a good idea.  Simply put, we need enough firepower on the bench so that Doc can rest Paul and Ray for more than 10 mpg each (ideally something closer to 15+ mpg).  I don't see Wafer/Daniels/Bradley doing that for us. 

However, if you bring Shaq into the equation, it changes things.  Throw him in the post and all of the sudden Von Wafer doesn't need to create his own shot, because he'll be getting better looks with Shaq in the post. 

TP, Brochacho

Stole the words right out of my mouth. Add Shaq in the mix, and now there's shooters everywhere - Nate,Von and even Harangody if he gets minutes. And there's no player in this league not named Dwight that could better fill Perk's shoes to start the season

yeh thats why i always said i wanted shaq, hes the only one out in FA center that can defend against howard and dominate the 5s in MIA, and if we were to face LA, Bynum and Gasol will be weak in the paint...

that also opens up shooters for us, and i trust shaq to get our offensive boards

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 11:23:28 PM »

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Lots of drama for one locker room (or one lineup). Nate, Von W, BBD and Shaq !?


or a lot of funny press conferences..   ;D

I agree.  Our locker room is very strong.  While there could be some silliness during the regular season, I think everything will be fine.  

As for Shaq, another pet peeve of mine that Chris Gaspar whined about the other day is that Shaq is some how going to slow down our dynamic fastbreak.  While he may have done that in Phoenix (though I'm not sold on it), we're not the Suns.  We don't run and gun.  More often than not even last year our fastbreak consisted of Rondo getting a steal and going coast to coast.  

And it's certainly not like Kendrick was running the floor with Rondo for high-flying alley-oops.  

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Getty Rudy AND Shaq would be fantastic -- another shooter AND another quality big, and all it might cost is lafayette, gaffney, sheed's contract and one or two picks? Total steal.
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Lots of drama for one locker room (or one lineup). Nate, Von W, BBD and Shaq !?


or a lot of funny press conferences..   ;D

I agree.  Our locker room is very strong.  While there could be some silliness during the regular season, I think everything will be fine.  

As for Shaq, another pet peeve of mine that Chris Gaspar whined about the other day is that Shaq is some how going to slow down our dynamic fastbreak.  While he may have done that in Phoenix (though I'm not sold on it), we're not the Suns.  We don't run and gun.  More often than not even last year our fastbreak consisted of Rondo getting a steal and going coast to coast.  

And it's certainly not like Kendrick was running the floor with Rondo for high-flying alley-oops.  

well, to start a fast break, you first have to get the rebound...

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Man, I've had one person every year that I couldn't stand. I never liked Sam Cassell much before he became a Celtic. I couldn't stand Stephon Marbury. I hate Rasheed Wallace. And I loathe Shaq.
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PG: Rondo, Nate, Avery
SG: Ray, Rudy, Von
SF: PP, Daniels
PF: Garnett, BBD, Harangody
C: Perkins (when healthy) J.O., Shaq 

Would this line up be possible? We could get Rudy for Oliver + Gaffney + 1st round and maybe 2nd if need be. Shaq for minimum sense he seems like he wants to be here.

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Man, I've had one person every year that I couldn't stand. I never liked Sam Cassell much before he became a Celtic. I couldn't stand Stephon Marbury. I hate Rasheed Wallace. And I loathe Shaq.
Exactly.  I had to stomach Mikki Moore, then Rasheed, now Jermaine Oneal- all of my most despised players become Celtics lately.  I still want Shaq though, even though I do feel that the more idiots around him, the bigger locker room risk he would be.