Is Rudy Fernandez worth a #1?

[kozlodoev]

Who hacked Jeff's account and proposed Baby for Oden with a straight face?

Good question. There is no way I'd trade a proven rotation player and part-time starter for someone who doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy.

[LooseCannon]

You're not going to get Fernandez AND Shaq, Sheed's deal is going to one of them. And Delonte won't sign for the vet min when he can stay with the Cavs for more. Also, we only get Delonte with Shaq if they go together in Sheed's deal + the first round pick you would use on Fernandez.

Fernandez has a contract so small that there's not really a way to make the salaries match up to use Sheed's contract.  It's really bad for trade flexibility if you don't have a couple of players signed for $3-4 million, which Portland doesn't have.

This suggests that Ainge may need to be creative and find a team that is looking to shed a big who is making about $4-5 million year and crafting some sort of three-team deal in which Ainge trades Sheed's contract and multiple draft picks for Rudy Fernandez and a bench big who probably will be deemed as overpaid or underperforming by most on this board.  Guys who fit include not-really-a-center Darius Songaila of New Orleans and oft-injured old guy Jeff Foster of Indiana.

[snively]

You're not going to get Fernandez AND Shaq, Sheed's deal is going to one of them. And Delonte won't sign for the vet min when he can stay with the Cavs for more. Also, we only get Delonte with Shaq if they go together in Sheed's deal + the first round pick you would use on Fernandez.

Fernandez has a contract so small that there's not really a way to make the salaries match up to use Sheed's contract.  It's really bad for trade flexibility if you don't have a couple of players signed for $3-4 million, which Portland doesn't have.

This suggests that Ainge may need to be creative and find a team that is looking to shed a big who is making about $4-5 million year and crafting some sort of three-team deal in which Ainge trades Sheed's contract and multiple draft picks for Rudy Fernandez and a bench big who probably will be deemed as overpaid or underperforming by most on this board.  Guys who fit include not-really-a-center Darius Songaila of New Orleans and oft-injured old guy Jeff Foster of Indiana.

I think Portland would be open to Baby/Sheed for Przybilla and either Cunningham or Pendergraph in addition to the pick/unguaranteed guys for Rudy swap.  A great deal for them financially that doesn't hurt their roster.

[LooseCannon]

i would not be shocked if the trade is simply avery bradley for rudy fernandez...which can't happen officially til sunday august 1st because of the trade restriction.

I'd be a bit surprised, given that the reason Fernandez is a available is because Portland has depth at the guard positions.

[Edgar]

You're not going to get Fernandez AND Shaq, Sheed's deal is going to one of them. And Delonte won't sign for the vet min when he can stay with the Cavs for more. Also, we only get Delonte with Shaq if they go together in Sheed's deal + the first round pick you would use on Fernandez.

Fernandez has a contract so small that there's not really a way to make the salaries match up to use Sheed's contract.  It's really bad for trade flexibility if you don't have a couple of players signed for $3-4 million, which Portland doesn't have.

This suggests that Ainge may need to be creative and find a team that is looking to shed a big who is making about $4-5 million year and crafting some sort of three-team deal in which Ainge trades Sheed's contract and multiple draft picks for Rudy Fernandez and a bench big who probably will be deemed as overpaid or underperforming by most on this board.  Guys who fit include not-really-a-center Darius Songaila of New Orleans and oft-injured old guy Jeff Foster of Indiana.

I think Portland would be open to Baby/Sheed for Przybilla and either Cunningham or Pendergraph in addition to the pick/unguaranteed guys for Rudy swap.  A great deal for them financially that doesn't hurt their roster.

so.. its posible

nice

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[snively]

i would not be shocked if the trade is simply avery bradley for rudy fernandez...which can't happen officially til sunday august 1st because of the trade restriction.

I'd be a bit surprised, given that the reason Fernandez is a available is because Portland has depth at the guard positions.

I'd also be surprised at that deal, especially with Bayless already on the team.

[snively]

Who hacked Jeff's account and proposed Baby for Oden with a straight face?

Good question. There is no way I'd trade a proven rotation player and part-time starter for someone who doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy.

Are you serious?

[Edgar]

Who hacked Jeff's account and proposed Baby for Oden with a straight face?

Good question. There is no way I'd trade a proven rotation player and part-time starter for someone who doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy.

Are you serious?

well in order to be honest
Gerald green had great games too.
oh well i am not starting this one
but of course hes serious or not
probably its just
unnimportant

[prov1ml34]

Well, Portland it asking for a first rounder which is fine by me, lets keep Sheed's contract and get something else if Rudy can be had for a first rounder....Looks like it is down to us and the Bulls

Rudy Fernandez isn't talking about his future, but everyone else is.

Fernandez is in Las Palmas training with the Spanish national team for the upcoming FIBA World Championships (nice location, by the way). He said on his personal blog that is his focus right now.

There is gossip about my future and everyone asks me but I'm really just focused on the national team right now.

That gossip includes the Trail Blazers new general manager Rich Cho asking for a first round pick for Fernandez, according to Alan Hahn of Newsday. If so, the Knicks are out because they don't have one they can move until 2014 (you can't trade first round picks in consecutive years, thank you very much Ted Stepien).

That would leave Boston and Chicago as the front runners, at least of the teams we know.

Boston is negotiating with Portland, as reported at CelticsBlog. Some Celtics fans live in a dream world where they can turn Rasheed Wallace's deal into Fernandez, but that's not happening. First, the salaries don't match, so Portland would have to move another player as part of the deal and they don't want to. Also, Sheed's contract is not a pick -- we mentioned they want a first-round pick, right?

Portland is listening to offers, but they are really under no pressure to make a deal. They can wait until training camp to see if a team gets desperate and ups the ante, or they could wait even longer. So sit back and get comfortable, this could take a while.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/portland-looking-for-a-first-round-pick-to-trade-fernandez-so-the-knicks-are-out.php

[MBunge]

Well, Portland it asking for a first rounder which is fine by me, lets keep Sheed's contract and get something else if Rudy can be had for a first rounder....Looks like it is down to us and the Bulls

Rudy Fernandez isn't talking about his future, but everyone else is.

Fernandez is in Las Palmas training with the Spanish national team for the upcoming FIBA World Championships (nice location, by the way). He said on his personal blog that is his focus right now.

There is gossip about my future and everyone asks me but I'm really just focused on the national team right now.

That gossip includes the Trail Blazers new general manager Rich Cho asking for a first round pick for Fernandez, according to Alan Hahn of Newsday. If so, the Knicks are out because they don't have one they can move until 2014 (you can't trade first round picks in consecutive years, thank you very much Ted Stepien).

That would leave Boston and Chicago as the front runners, at least of the teams we know.

Boston is negotiating with Portland, as reported at CelticsBlog. Some Celtics fans live in a dream world where they can turn Rasheed Wallace's deal into Fernandez, but that's not happening. First, the salaries don't match, so Portland would have to move another player as part of the deal and they don't want to. Also, Sheed's contract is not a pick -- we mentioned they want a first-round pick, right?

Portland is listening to offers, but they are really under no pressure to make a deal. They can wait until training camp to see if a team gets desperate and ups the ante, or they could wait even longer. So sit back and get comfortable, this could take a while.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/portland-looking-for-a-first-round-pick-to-trade-fernandez-so-the-knicks-are-out.php

I can't imagine Ainge would balk at giving up a 1st rounder for Rudy.  With Rondo and hopefully a healthy Perk as the core of rebuilding and Ray, KG and Nate's deals all expiring at the same time, I can't imagine Ainge is planning on Boston stinking its way into a top lottery pick.  If there's any holdup, it would have to be Portland wanting Avery Bradley and a #1 or there's a bigger deal than just Rudy to Boston being worked out.

Mike

[Snakehead]

Well, Portland it asking for a first rounder which is fine by me, lets keep Sheed's contract and get something else if Rudy can be had for a first rounder....Looks like it is down to us and the Bulls

Rudy Fernandez isn't talking about his future, but everyone else is.

Fernandez is in Las Palmas training with the Spanish national team for the upcoming FIBA World Championships (nice location, by the way). He said on his personal blog that is his focus right now.

There is gossip about my future and everyone asks me but I'm really just focused on the national team right now.

That gossip includes the Trail Blazers new general manager Rich Cho asking for a first round pick for Fernandez, according to Alan Hahn of Newsday. If so, the Knicks are out because they don't have one they can move until 2014 (you can't trade first round picks in consecutive years, thank you very much Ted Stepien).

That would leave Boston and Chicago as the front runners, at least of the teams we know.

Boston is negotiating with Portland, as reported at CelticsBlog. Some Celtics fans live in a dream world where they can turn Rasheed Wallace's deal into Fernandez, but that's not happening. First, the salaries don't match, so Portland would have to move another player as part of the deal and they don't want to. Also, Sheed's contract is not a pick -- we mentioned they want a first-round pick, right?

Portland is listening to offers, but they are really under no pressure to make a deal. They can wait until training camp to see if a team gets desperate and ups the ante, or they could wait even longer. So sit back and get comfortable, this could take a while.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/portland-looking-for-a-first-round-pick-to-trade-fernandez-so-the-knicks-are-out.php

I can't imagine Ainge would balk at giving up a 1st rounder for Rudy.  With Rondo and hopefully a healthy Perk as the core of rebuilding and Ray, KG and Nate's deals all expiring at the same time, I can't imagine Ainge is planning on Boston stinking its way into a top lottery pick.  If there's any holdup, it would have to be Portland wanting Avery Bradley and a #1 or there's a bigger deal than just Rudy to Boston being worked out.

Mike

Maybe a 3 teamer to make it all work out (with us landing another big).  I don't see the Blazers pushing that hard for Bradley considering they just drafted Armon Johnson who seems like a pretty similar player.

We have the 1st rounder to give up and I hope we would absolutely trade it for Rudy.  I think maybe Portland is seeing if they can get anything more, but I think we'll have the best offer.

[MBunge]

Well, Portland it asking for a first rounder which is fine by me, lets keep Sheed's contract and get something else if Rudy can be had for a first rounder....Looks like it is down to us and the Bulls

Rudy Fernandez isn't talking about his future, but everyone else is.

Fernandez is in Las Palmas training with the Spanish national team for the upcoming FIBA World Championships (nice location, by the way). He said on his personal blog that is his focus right now.

There is gossip about my future and everyone asks me but I'm really just focused on the national team right now.

That gossip includes the Trail Blazers new general manager Rich Cho asking for a first round pick for Fernandez, according to Alan Hahn of Newsday. If so, the Knicks are out because they don't have one they can move until 2014 (you can't trade first round picks in consecutive years, thank you very much Ted Stepien).

That would leave Boston and Chicago as the front runners, at least of the teams we know.

Boston is negotiating with Portland, as reported at CelticsBlog. Some Celtics fans live in a dream world where they can turn Rasheed Wallace's deal into Fernandez, but that's not happening. First, the salaries don't match, so Portland would have to move another player as part of the deal and they don't want to. Also, Sheed's contract is not a pick -- we mentioned they want a first-round pick, right?

Portland is listening to offers, but they are really under no pressure to make a deal. They can wait until training camp to see if a team gets desperate and ups the ante, or they could wait even longer. So sit back and get comfortable, this could take a while.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/portland-looking-for-a-first-round-pick-to-trade-fernandez-so-the-knicks-are-out.php

I can't imagine Ainge would balk at giving up a 1st rounder for Rudy.  With Rondo and hopefully a healthy Perk as the core of rebuilding and Ray, KG and Nate's deals all expiring at the same time, I can't imagine Ainge is planning on Boston stinking its way into a top lottery pick.  If there's any holdup, it would have to be Portland wanting Avery Bradley and a #1 or there's a bigger deal than just Rudy to Boston being worked out.

Mike

Maybe a 3 teamer to make it all work out (with us landing another big).  I don't see the Blazers pushing that hard for Bradley considering they just drafted Armon Johnson who seems like a pretty similar player.

We have the 1st rounder to give up and I hope we would absolutely trade it for Rudy.  I think maybe Portland is seeing if they can get anything more, but I think we'll have the best offer.

The Blazers may not need Bradley, but they could want him simply as an asset for the future.  Even though it's probably best for Portland if Rudy moves on, letting him go for a couple of non-guaranteed contracts and a 1st round pick likely to be in the 20s can't be all that exciting a possiblity for them.

Mike

[LilRip]

Who hacked Jeff's account and proposed Baby for Oden with a straight face?

Good question. There is no way I'd trade a proven rotation player and part-time starter for someone who doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy.

LOL! how i wish you were the Blazers GM.



- LilRip

[Snakehead]

Who hacked Jeff's account and proposed Baby for Oden with a straight face?

Good question. There is no way I'd trade a proven rotation player and part-time starter for someone who doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy.

LOL! how i wish you were the Blazers GM.



- LilRip

TP, lol me too.  Baby for Oden if Oden gets healthy would be one of the most lopsided trades in the history of the NBA.

[kozlodoev]

if Oden gets healthy

Right. Good luck with that.