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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #285 on: August 17, 2010, 12:45:32 AM »

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Eddie was traded.

...  and every single indication was that TA left town because he wanted a chance for a bigger role, *not* because the Celtics were outbid.  Not sure what the poster is talking about.

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“Tony Allen agrees to three year, $10 million deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, according to sources. Allen wanted to return to Boston at the same price but the Celtics didn’t want to pay him.” The Celtics might really regret letting TA walk. They must have wanted him to waive the third year, but why wouldn’t they offer $9-$10 million for two years? I don’t get it. Does Danny Ainge have some trade cooking to land the C’s some backup wing help?
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When you hear C's interested in resigning a bench player, that is so DA can tell fans "we did make an offer,he just chose elsewhere. Then you find out C's offer. The poster it seems was just for you, KCattheStripe  ;D.
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #286 on: August 17, 2010, 12:55:25 AM »

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hmmm...can anyone see his face? Is he drooling?
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #287 on: August 17, 2010, 08:23:47 AM »

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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #288 on: August 17, 2010, 09:21:45 AM »

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What are the thoughts around this:

Keep BBD as our fourth big (Behind Jermaine, KG, and Shaqa) until mid-season when Perk comes back.  Once the four main bigs are healthy, we can either use BBD in a trade to address a need, or we can hold onto him just in case another playoff injury strikes a big.

I liked BBD's game off the bench.  Good catch and score guy inside, little jumper, and tries is butt off.  I think that will compliment our lumbering bigs this year, but it does seem or team is "big-heavy" this year.  I don't think it's a bad place to have extra guys though.  All in all, I think you hold onto him now to make sure we get a decent seeding in the playoffs (only reason first half matters) and then either address a need, or see how the team gels.

Basically, he's a luxury.

Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #289 on: August 17, 2010, 09:23:36 AM »

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What are the thoughts around this:

Keep BBD as our fourth big (Behind Jermaine, KG, and Shaqa) until mid-season when Perk comes back.  Once the four main bigs are healthy, we can either use BBD in a trade to address a need, or we can hold onto him just in case another playoff injury strikes a big.

I liked BBD's game off the bench.  Good catch and score guy inside, little jumper, and tries is butt off.  I think that will compliment our lumbering bigs this year, but it does seem or team is "big-heavy" this year.  I don't think it's a bad place to have extra guys though.  All in all, I think you hold onto him now to make sure we get a decent seeding in the playoffs (only reason first half matters) and then either address a need, or see how the team gels.

Basically, he's a luxury.

A luxury?  With all the old and/or injury prone bigs, he's a necessity.  Even Perk is injury prone.  Both times the Celtics went to the Finals perk got hurt in the Finals, and his shoulder could go out at any time it seems.
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #290 on: August 17, 2010, 09:24:30 AM »

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Check out this video from yesterday of Baby's run in with a spider.

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that was great!  bbd is hilarious

Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #291 on: August 17, 2010, 09:25:47 AM »

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hmmm...can anyone see his face? Is he drooling?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yggJSx5iU8

What was he doing dancing in the street? LOL 
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #292 on: August 17, 2010, 09:26:38 AM »

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Check out this video from yesterday of Baby's run in with a spider.

http://wbztv.com/video/?id=91867@wbz.dayport.com

that was great!  bbd is hilarious

He's a character.  It's going to be fun having Baby and Shaq on the same team. ;D
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #293 on: August 17, 2010, 09:28:56 AM »

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“Tony Allen agrees to three year, $10 million deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, according to sources. Allen wanted to return to Boston at the same price but the Celtics didn’t want to pay him.” The Celtics might really regret letting TA walk. They must have wanted him to waive the third year, but why wouldn’t they offer $9-$10 million for two years? I don’t get it. Does Danny Ainge have some trade cooking to land the C’s some backup wing help?
                                         Alex Kennedy of Hoops World

When you hear C's interested in resigning a bench player, that is so DA can tell fans "we did make an offer,he just chose elsewhere. Then you find out C's offer. The poster it seems was just for you, KCattheStripe  ;D.

Here's what Danny said on the same subject:

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Ainge on TA: "We had a good six years with Tony. It wasn't a financial decision. You'd have to ask Tony (why he didn't return).

That was followed shortly thereafter by Tony talking about how he wanted a bigger role.  My guess, then, would be that the money was about equal.

What sort of track record do Alex Kennedy and Hoopsworld have?  There are *a lot* of basketball sites that routinely report garbage, or conjecture as fact.


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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #294 on: August 17, 2010, 09:34:53 AM »

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What are the thoughts around this:

Keep BBD as our fourth big (Behind Jermaine, KG, and Shaqa) until mid-season when Perk comes back.  Once the four main bigs are healthy, we can either use BBD in a trade to address a need, or we can hold onto him just in case another playoff injury strikes a big.

I liked BBD's game off the bench.  Good catch and score guy inside, little jumper, and tries is butt off.  I think that will compliment our lumbering bigs this year, but it does seem or team is "big-heavy" this year.  I don't think it's a bad place to have extra guys though.  All in all, I think you hold onto him now to make sure we get a decent seeding in the playoffs (only reason first half matters) and then either address a need, or see how the team gels.

Basically, he's a luxury.

A luxury?  With all the old and/or injury prone bigs, he's a necessity.  Even Perk is injury prone.  Both times the Celtics went to the Finals perk got hurt in the Finals, and his shoulder could go out at any time it seems.

I agree with him being more neccessary than many think.  Shaq takes games off pretty regularly and it'll be nice to, during the regular season, keep our older big's minutes down or even let them take games off by playing BBD more.  In the playoffs you can reduce his minutes.

And yes, near the trade deadline his expiring could land us a good wing, if at that time Perk looks like he is recovering well and we have a good option to trade for, I would not be against that either.
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #295 on: August 17, 2010, 10:18:25 AM »

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“Tony Allen agrees to three year, $10 million deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, according to sources. Allen wanted to return to Boston at the same price but the Celtics didn’t want to pay him.” The Celtics might really regret letting TA walk. They must have wanted him to waive the third year, but why wouldn’t they offer $9-$10 million for two years? I don’t get it. Does Danny Ainge have some trade cooking to land the C’s some backup wing help?
                                         Alex Kennedy of Hoops World

When you hear C's interested in resigning a bench player, that is so DA can tell fans "we did make an offer,he just chose elsewhere. Then you find out C's offer. The poster it seems was just for you, KCattheStripe  ;D.

Here's what Danny said on the same subject:

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Ainge on TA: "We had a good six years with Tony. It wasn't a financial decision. You'd have to ask Tony (why he didn't return).

That was followed shortly thereafter by Tony talking about how he wanted a bigger role.  My guess, then, would be that the money was about equal.

What sort of track record do Alex Kennedy and Hoopsworld have?  There are *a lot* of basketball sites that routinely report garbage, or conjecture as fact.


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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #296 on: August 17, 2010, 10:38:57 AM »

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What are the thoughts around this:

Keep BBD as our fourth big (Behind Jermaine, KG, and Shaqa) until mid-season when Perk comes back.  Once the four main bigs are healthy, we can either use BBD in a trade to address a need, or we can hold onto him just in case another playoff injury strikes a big.

I liked BBD's game off the bench.  Good catch and score guy inside, little jumper, and tries is butt off.  I think that will compliment our lumbering bigs this year, but it does seem or team is "big-heavy" this year.  I don't think it's a bad place to have extra guys though.  All in all, I think you hold onto him now to make sure we get a decent seeding in the playoffs (only reason first half matters) and then either address a need, or see how the team gels.

Basically, he's a luxury.

A luxury?  With all the old and/or injury prone bigs, he's a necessity.  Even Perk is injury prone.  Both times the Celtics went to the Finals perk got hurt in the Finals, and his shoulder could go out at any time it seems.

I agree with him being more neccessary than many think.  Shaq takes games off pretty regularly and it'll be nice to, during the regular season, keep our older big's minutes down or even let them take games off by playing BBD more.  In the playoffs you can reduce his minutes.

And yes, near the trade deadline his expiring could land us a good wing, if at that time Perk looks like he is recovering well and we have a good option to trade for, I would not be against that either.

I wouldn't do it even then.  Perk needs to be fully recovered, not recovering well.  Perk could have a set back or his shoulder could go out (every season something happens to him).  Perk is just as fragile  as the older bigs now.  I wouldn't count on him at all next season. 
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #297 on: August 17, 2010, 11:17:28 AM »

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What are the thoughts around this:

Keep BBD as our fourth big (Behind Jermaine, KG, and Shaqa) until mid-season when Perk comes back.  Once the four main bigs are healthy, we can either use BBD in a trade to address a need, or we can hold onto him just in case another playoff injury strikes a big.

I liked BBD's game off the bench.  Good catch and score guy inside, little jumper, and tries is butt off.  I think that will compliment our lumbering bigs this year, but it does seem or team is "big-heavy" this year.  I don't think it's a bad place to have extra guys though.  All in all, I think you hold onto him now to make sure we get a decent seeding in the playoffs (only reason first half matters) and then either address a need, or see how the team gels.

Basically, he's a luxury.

A luxury?  With all the old and/or injury prone bigs, he's a necessity.  Even Perk is injury prone.  Both times the Celtics went to the Finals perk got hurt in the Finals, and his shoulder could go out at any time it seems.

I agree with him being more neccessary than many think.  Shaq takes games off pretty regularly and it'll be nice to, during the regular season, keep our older big's minutes down or even let them take games off by playing BBD more.  In the playoffs you can reduce his minutes.

And yes, near the trade deadline his expiring could land us a good wing, if at that time Perk looks like he is recovering well and we have a good option to trade for, I would not be against that either.

I wouldn't do it even then.  Perk needs to be fully recovered, not recovering well.  Perk could have a set back or his shoulder could go out (every season something happens to him).  Perk is just as fragile  as the older bigs now.  I wouldn't count on him at all next season. 

I'd probably agree, but if a team is looking to dump salary we may get an offer that is too good to refuse. If we threw say Quis in the trade we could get a good wing and land a decent enough 5th big that is cheaper it could make our team better overall.

Just saying it's something to look at around the trade deadline.  I know Ainge probably will, he always at least sees what is available.
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Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #298 on: August 17, 2010, 01:15:05 PM »

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“Tony Allen agrees to three year, $10 million deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, according to sources. Allen wanted to return to Boston at the same price but the Celtics didn’t want to pay him.” The Celtics might really regret letting TA walk. They must have wanted him to waive the third year, but why wouldn’t they offer $9-$10 million for two years? I don’t get it. Does Danny Ainge have some trade cooking to land the C’s some backup wing help?
                                         Alex Kennedy of Hoops World

When you hear C's interested in resigning a bench player, that is so DA can tell fans "we did make an offer,he just chose elsewhere. Then you find out C's offer. The poster it seems was just for you, KCattheStripe  ;D.

Here's what Danny said on the same subject:

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Ainge on TA: "We had a good six years with Tony. It wasn't a financial decision. You'd have to ask Tony (why he didn't return).

That was followed shortly thereafter by Tony talking about how he wanted a bigger role.  My guess, then, would be that the money was about equal.

What sort of track record do Alex Kennedy and Hoopsworld have?  There are *a lot* of basketball sites that routinely report garbage, or conjecture as fact.
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Allen sought longer-term security and the Celtics were reluctant to give him a guaranteed third year. With the Celtics desperately needing defense and youth, re-signing Allen would seem to have been a major priority.
But his negotiations were pushed back and Allen’s agent, Michael Higgins, last week appeared befuddled that the Celtics weren’t more aggressive. The Celtics didn’t begin seriously talking numbers with Allen until a few days ago and Wallace swept in with a guaranteed third year and more than $3 million per season, a modest raise from $2.5 million in 2009-10.
By Gary Washburn The Boston Globe
Defense rest your Honor, KCattheStripe....your witness?

Re: Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?
« Reply #299 on: August 17, 2010, 01:26:05 PM »

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“Tony Allen agrees to three year, $10 million deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, according to sources. Allen wanted to return to Boston at the same price but the Celtics didn’t want to pay him.” The Celtics might really regret letting TA walk. They must have wanted him to waive the third year, but why wouldn’t they offer $9-$10 million for two years? I don’t get it. Does Danny Ainge have some trade cooking to land the C’s some backup wing help?
                                         Alex Kennedy of Hoops World

When you hear C's interested in resigning a bench player, that is so DA can tell fans "we did make an offer,he just chose elsewhere. Then you find out C's offer. The poster it seems was just for you, KCattheStripe  ;D.

Here's what Danny said on the same subject:

Quote
Ainge on TA: "We had a good six years with Tony. It wasn't a financial decision. You'd have to ask Tony (why he didn't return).

That was followed shortly thereafter by Tony talking about how he wanted a bigger role.  My guess, then, would be that the money was about equal.

What sort of track record do Alex Kennedy and Hoopsworld have?  There are *a lot* of basketball sites that routinely report garbage, or conjecture as fact.
Quote
Allen sought longer-term security and the Celtics were reluctant to give him a guaranteed third year. With the Celtics desperately needing defense and youth, re-signing Allen would seem to have been a major priority.
But his negotiations were pushed back and Allen’s agent, Michael Higgins, last week appeared befuddled that the Celtics weren’t more aggressive. The Celtics didn’t begin seriously talking numbers with Allen until a few days ago and Wallace swept in with a guaranteed third year and more than $3 million per season, a modest raise from $2.5 million in 2009-10.
By Gary Washburn The Boston Globe
Defense rest your Honor, KCattheStripe....your witness?

  I got the feeling that TA got an offer from Memphis and just took it instead of going back to Boston to see if they'd match it, which is what Danny seemed to be expecting. It didn't like Memphis beat Boston' best offer, just that they beat Boston's initial offer.