Why Is Glen Davis still on this team?

[Jevi]

I don't buy fatigue,age,or even a better Lakers team. Game 7 came down to Glen Davis. I don't even buy his "energy"...please,ever ask why the offense is so bad,when he's on the court that he gets offensive rebounds? I don't get how so much attention can go to a player for a game 4 win, while game 7 was about about "the team just didn't have it". His energy produced 6points in the last 3 games. Glen Davis(half court player only) is a liability to good defense, and offense. Player hater,absolutely. Must it take yet another game7 loss for DA & blind Celtic fans who keep backing him to see this?

http://celticshub.com/2009/04/22/is-glen-davis-a-good-player/
http://celticshub.com/2010/02/26/the-re-re-invention-of-glen-davis-is-it-working/

[Roy Hobbs]

Who should we replace him with?  For a $3 million big man, he's fairly productive, and he's one of the only guys on the team who consistently goes after offensive boards. 

Ideally, BBD would be the fourth big in a rotation, and once Perk comes back, that's what he'll be. 

[Rondo2287]

I don't buy fatigue,age,or even a better Lakers team. Game 7 came down to Glen Davis. I don't even buy his "energy"...please,ever ask why the offense is so bad,when he's on the court that he gets offensive rebounds? I don't get how so much attention can go to a player for a game 4 win, while game 7 was about about "the team just didn't have it". His energy produced 6points in the last 3 games. Glen Davis(half court player only) is a liability to good defense, and offense. Player hater,absolutely. Must it take yet another game7 loss for DA & blind Celtic fans who keep backing him to see this?

http://celticshub.com/2009/04/22/is-glen-davis-a-good-player/
http://celticshub.com/2010/02/26/the-re-re-invention-of-glen-davis-is-it-working/

Are we serious?  BBD is without a doubt our best big off the bench.  He single handedly won a couple playoff games for us this year and filled in admirably in KG's place in the Miami series as well as the whole playoffs last year. 

BBD is one of the few young talents that we have on this team, why would we get rid of him?

[Fafnir]

Who should we replace him with?  For a $3 million big man, he's fairly productive, and he's one of the only guys on the team who consistently goes after offensive boards. 

Ideally, BBD would be the fourth big in a rotation, and once Perk comes back, that's what he'll be. 

I'm not sure O'Neal will supplant him.

[Rondo2287]

Who should we replace him with?  For a $3 million big man, he's fairly productive, and he's one of the only guys on the team who consistently goes after offensive boards. 

Ideally, BBD would be the fourth big in a rotation, and once Perk comes back, that's what he'll be. 

Lets not forget consistently takes charges

[GreenFaith1819]

Well, how many other Backups to KG are out there who are willing to accept the role, play solid minutes as a backup, and seemingly get better every year?

With the exception of his mistake early last season that caused him to miss a few weeks, he played rather smartly for us.

Take a look at his numbers from this clip off NBA.com Historical player search. After glancing at it for a few minutes, I think he is a Keeper:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/glen_davis/career_stats.html

Look at his Post-Season numbers in particular. One knock some, even myself, have had on him is that he doesn't rebound well. According to those stats, he's picking that up. He averaged 5.6 rebounds in over 36 min in a starting role in the playoffs in 08-09. In a backup role in 09-10, he averaged 4.5 rebs, in less minutes (20 min).

He has solid FG%, too. He's always had a decent mid-range J, but last year he seemed to get better at getting some shots in close as well.

Yes, I'm glad Glen is still here, myself.

And as one poster showed us just a few days ago - how many NBA players can "Dougie"
 

[StartOrien]

I don't buy fatigue,age,or even a better Lakers team. Game 7 came down to Glen Davis. I don't even buy his "energy"...please,ever ask why the offense is so bad,when he's on the court that he gets offensive rebounds? I don't get how so much attention can go to a player for a game 4 win, while game 7 was about about "the team just didn't have it". His energy produced 6points in the last 3 games. Glen Davis(half court player only) is a liability to good defense, and offense. Player hater,absolutely. Must it take yet another game7 loss for DA & blind Celtic fans who keep backing him to see this?

http://celticshub.com/2009/04/22/is-glen-davis-a-good-player/
http://celticshub.com/2010/02/26/the-re-re-invention-of-glen-davis-is-it-working/

Because he's a highly productive bench player, who eats minutes, seems acceptive of taking any kind of role and had a heavy hand in winning multiple playoff games for us this year?

I feel like Toby Flenderson in "casino night" episode of the office

Actually, I didn't think it was appropriate to invite children since it's, uh, you know there's gambling and alcohol, and it's in our dangerous warehouse, and... it's a school night, and, you know, Hooters is catering, you know... is that... is that enough? Should I keep going?

[nickagneta]

1.) He's cheap. He's only making $3 million a year. Amir Johnson is making close to $7 million average on his new contract. Darko Milicic an average of $5 million. Matt Bonner an average of $4 million. Hakim Warrick $4.5 million average. Tyrus Thomas $8 million average. Given his Per48 minute stats as compared to these guys, he's a bargain.

2.) Davis is versatile on defense and a highly intelligent basketball player. He can body up the bigger slower centers while still playing a quality brand of defense on most power forwards. Also, his help defense is excellent as is his understanding of the Celtics scheme. Those qualities are not easy to find.

3.) Davis' inadequacies are not due to a lack of trying or a lack heart or desire. He has obvious physical limitations but gives you everything he has.

4.) The coaching staff and his team mates genuinely like the guy and what he brings to this team. Is he perfect? Hell no. But at $3 million a year, good luck finding someone that will give you even half of what Davis brings to the table game in and game out.

[Larry Pistol]

I don't buy fatigue,age,or even a better Lakers team. Game 7 came down to Glen Davis. I don't even buy his "energy"...please,ever ask why the offense is so bad,when he's on the court that he gets offensive rebounds? I don't get how so much attention can go to a player for a game 4 win, while game 7 was about about "the team just didn't have it". His energy produced 6points in the last 3 games. Glen Davis(half court player only) is a liability to good defense, and offense. Player hater,absolutely. Must it take yet another game7 loss for DA & blind Celtic fans who keep backing him to see this?

http://celticshub.com/2009/04/22/is-glen-davis-a-good-player/
http://celticshub.com/2010/02/26/the-re-re-invention-of-glen-davis-is-it-working/

Okay, you say BBD is the sole reason we lost Game 7 to the Lakers? You're so wrong I don't even know where to start. Yes he probably was a part of the reason, as most analysts have said, we lost because of the Lakers' length. Don't forget that PP got shut down by Ron Artest in the most important game of the season.  Let's not forget our starting center was out injured. How about Ray Allen not being able to hit the broad side of a barn after Game 2? Let's not forget we had a 3 games to 2 strangle hold on the Lakers. Lots of things led to us loosing Game 7. BBD is great off the bench, especially for the amount of money we pay him. He's an undersized forward, but the energy, hustle, motivation he brings to this team is unparalleled. He is a great spark off the bench and even though I hated him for so long, you cannot deny he has worked hard and gotten better. I'm glad we have him.

[GreenFaith1819]

Those reb numbers I posted - I don't know the exact calculations, but I think they would project out to Glen Davis averaging over 9 rebs a game in a starting role for us with the same minutes he had in the post-season in 08-09.

So - I think that if he was a starter now, this man could realistically pull down right around 9 rebs a game for us, and post 16-18 pts. Someone with better calculations pls correct me if I'm off.

He even seemed more active defensively last postseason, too...he wasn't a Perk or KG, but he sent back more than a few during our run from April-June 10.

[CelticsWhat35]

I don't buy fatigue,age,or even a better Lakers team. Game 7 came down to Glen Davis. I don't even buy his "energy"...please,ever ask why the offense is so bad,when he's on the court that he gets offensive rebounds? I don't get how so much attention can go to a player for a game 4 win, while game 7 was about about "the team just didn't have it". His energy produced 6points in the last 3 games. Glen Davis(half court player only) is a liability to good defense, and offense. Player hater,absolutely. Must it take yet another game7 loss for DA & blind Celtic fans who keep backing him to see this?

http://celticshub.com/2009/04/22/is-glen-davis-a-good-player/
http://celticshub.com/2010/02/26/the-re-re-invention-of-glen-davis-is-it-working/

Are we serious?  BBD is without a doubt our best big off the bench.  He single handedly won a couple playoff games for us this year and filled in admirably in KG's place in the Miami series as well as the whole playoffs last year. 

BBD is one of the few young talents that we have on this team, why would we get rid of him?

I'm not gonna bother starting another thread for this, and you are far from the only culprit, but I've seen this thrown around way too much.  It was either in reference to Davis or Nate, or even Marbury last year.  None of them "won" playoff games for us, and surely not single handedly.  What they did do was play admirably, and at times above their normal production levels, during key moments of games.  That's called doing their jobs.

I realize most people are probably using the term loosely, but it seems to come up so often, I just had to put my 2 cents in there.

But to the rest of your points, I totally agree.  Davis is never going to be an all star, but he is a young, valuable player to this team.

[Roy Hobbs]

Those reb numbers I posted - I don't know the exact calculations, but I think they would project out to Glen Davis averaging over 9 rebs a game in a starting role for us with the same minutes he had in the post-season in 08-09.

So - I think that if he was a starter now, this man could realistically pull down right around 9 rebs a game for us, and post 16-18 pts. Someone with better calculations pls correct me if I'm off.

He even seemed more active defensively last postseason, too...he wasn't a Perk or KG, but he sent back more than a few during our run from April-June 10.

If BBD played 36 minutes, his regular season stats project to: 

13.1 points, 7.9 rebounds, 1.4 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.5 blocks, 2.0 turnovers, 5.1 personal fouls

[Jon]

Glen continues to impress me.  For every time I get annoyed with him for getting blocked under the basket or having his shot altered on a layup, he makes up for it twofold with a big jumper or drive to the hoop in crunch time.  I agree with the general sentiment here: for the money, the skill, and his general acceptance of his role on the bench, he's a good fit.  

That said, I wouldn't be completely opposed to trading him.  Why?  Because he's really our only tradeable asset right now.  He's cheap, an expiring deal, and while good, probably not a huge part of the rebuilding process (he's still not good enough to start on a contender).  

Now I'd still like to trade Wallace's deal.  However, if Wallace changes his mind (unlikely, but more likely with Wallace than others since he's crazy), trading BBD might be the only way to upgrade the wing spot.  Or, if a perspective trade partner for Wallace needs a sweetener, and would give us a good 3 and 5 in return, I'd be down with trading him too.  

[GreenFaith1819]

Those reb numbers I posted - I don't know the exact calculations, but I think they would project out to Glen Davis averaging over 9 rebs a game in a starting role for us with the same minutes he had in the post-season in 08-09.

So - I think that if he was a starter now, this man could realistically pull down right around 9 rebs a game for us, and post 16-18 pts. Someone with better calculations pls correct me if I'm off.

He even seemed more active defensively last postseason, too...he wasn't a Perk or KG, but he sent back more than a few during our run from April-June 10.

If BBD played 36 minutes, his regular season stats project to: 

13.1 points, 7.9 rebounds, 1.4 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.5 blocks, 2.0 turnovers, 5.1 personal fouls

TP4U Roy, thanks.

I'll even stretch it to say that those numbers would be higher in a regular season setting against weaker opponents - he put up 15 pts and 5.6 rebs in 08-09 playoffs against the likes of Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas, Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis - all tall timber.

I like those turnover numbers, too...he's not a high risk when we need him.

I'd like to see those assists up, but he's only 24? He's going to get better.

I think Danny may have a dillemma on his hands come next yr - when he decides whether or not to keep Glen. I hope Glen stays, or if he gets traded I hope Danny can swing equal value for him.

[Rondo2287]

I don't buy fatigue,age,or even a better Lakers team. Game 7 came down to Glen Davis. I don't even buy his "energy"...please,ever ask why the offense is so bad,when he's on the court that he gets offensive rebounds? I don't get how so much attention can go to a player for a game 4 win, while game 7 was about about "the team just didn't have it". His energy produced 6points in the last 3 games. Glen Davis(half court player only) is a liability to good defense, and offense. Player hater,absolutely. Must it take yet another game7 loss for DA & blind Celtic fans who keep backing him to see this?

http://celticshub.com/2009/04/22/is-glen-davis-a-good-player/
http://celticshub.com/2010/02/26/the-re-re-invention-of-glen-davis-is-it-working/

Are we serious?  BBD is without a doubt our best big off the bench.  He single handedly won a couple playoff games for us this year and filled in admirably in KG's place in the Miami series as well as the whole playoffs last year. 

BBD is one of the few young talents that we have on this team, why would we get rid of him?

I'm not gonna bother starting another thread for this, and you are far from the only culprit, but I've seen this thrown around way too much.  It was either in reference to Davis or Nate, or even Marbury last year.  None of them "won" playoff games for us, and surely not single handedly.  What they did do was play admirably, and at times above their normal production levels, during key moments of games.  That's called doing their jobs.

I realize most people are probably using the term loosely, but it seems to come up so often, I just had to put my 2 cents in there.

But to the rest of your points, I totally agree.  Davis is never going to be an all star, but he is a young, valuable player to this team.

Ok well obviously he didn't win the game by himself.  Other than Kobe, Dwade or Lebron, im not sure there are many players in the league capable of actually winning a game by himself.  I guess my point was that his contributions were absolutely critical to winning the game and had he not played or not been on our team i doubt we would have won.