Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)

[wdleehi]

A big PG so Nate can be the SG on offense. 

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13611/james-expected-to-leave-wiz-in-buyout

Just  saw this on Mike Jame's most likely getting bought out... Would he be a pg you would like to bring in wdleehi, even though he is only 6'2.

He is done. 

Just wondering... Who is a guard that you would like to bring in because I can't think of many who will be bought out that I would like sign.

No clue.  I was looking at the Celtics roster, not trying to guess who may or may not be bought out.  


Daniels is the SF the Celtics need.  TA is the defensive SG.  Nate is a small PG sized offensive SG.  

They just don't have a true backup PG.

Mardy Collins? Doesn't seem like much of a buyout candidate, but they did just get Blake in LAC.

I would like the fit but, the Clips also traded away Telfair.  


I think a larger PG and a true sharpshooter fills out the bench role players.  No need for any 6th, 7th or even 8th men.  


Just need specialists.  

[wdleehi]

We dont need a "true" backup point guard. We have Rondo, who will be playing a large amount of minutes come playoff time. We just need someone who can bring the ball up the floor while handling pressure and have the ability to score at will = nate robinson

There are better weapons on the bench (Wallace when he decides to play and goes down low) that need to be fed. 

[MF Doom]

raja would be awesome, al harington, he would be a lift. unfortunately i doubt either of these guys gets bought out.

Though Harrington is a dream, if we can sign him and stay healthy then we are goingg places

[MF Doom]

We dont need a "true" backup point guard. We have Rondo, who will be playing a large amount of minutes come playoff time. We just need someone who can bring the ball up the floor while handling pressure and have the ability to score at will = nate robinson

There are better weapons on the bench (Wallace when he decides to play and goes down low) that need to be fed. 

I'd have to disagree that Sheed will be a better scoring weapon than Nate. If he was, then the majority of the board wouldn't be saying: "We could realy use Nate right now" when we are going through offensive slumps. Nate can score at any given moment ( and please do not say he can't because for someone to come back from not playing fourteen straight games and drop 41 against the Hawks takes tremendous scoring ability) while Rasheed scores if he feels like playing that night and if he is playing against a smaller/weaker opponent. I have not yet seen him consistently score on proven defensive bigs yet. 

[wdleehi]

We dont need a "true" backup point guard. We have Rondo, who will be playing a large amount of minutes come playoff time. We just need someone who can bring the ball up the floor while handling pressure and have the ability to score at will = nate robinson

There are better weapons on the bench (Wallace when he decides to play and goes down low) that need to be fed. 

I'd have to disagree that Sheed will be a better scoring weapon than Nate. If he was, then the majority of the board wouldn't be saying: "We could realy use Nate right now" when we are going through offensive slumps. Nate can score at any given moment ( and please do not say he can't because for someone to come back from not playing fourteen straight games and drop 41 against the Hawks takes tremendous scoring ability) while Rasheed scores if he feels like playing that night and if he is playing against a smaller/weaker opponent. I have not yet seen him consistently score on proven defensive bigs yet. 

We have seen when Wallace wants to, there isn't really anyone in the league that will stop him down low. 

What we should want to see is Wallace living down there come playoff time. 

[Slugger]

We dont need a "true" backup point guard. We have Rondo, who will be playing a large amount of minutes come playoff time. We just need someone who can bring the ball up the floor while handling pressure and have the ability to score at will = nate robinson

There are better weapons on the bench (Wallace when he decides to play and goes down low) that need to be fed. 

I'd have to disagree that Sheed will be a better scoring weapon than Nate. If he was, then the majority of the board wouldn't be saying: "We could realy use Nate right now" when we are going through offensive slumps. Nate can score at any given moment ( and please do not say he can't because for someone to come back from not playing fourteen straight games and drop 41 against the Hawks takes tremendous scoring ability) while Rasheed scores if he feels like playing that night and if he is playing against a smaller/weaker opponent. I have not yet seen him consistently score on proven defensive bigs yet. 

We have seen when Wallace wants to, there isn't really anyone in the league that will stop him down low. 

What we should want to see is Wallace living down there come playoff time. 

This is true.  He can get his shot off against anyone in the post.  In reality he should be able to hit on 50% or so of those opportunities down low.  Its just a shame our sets dont always include him on the low block.

Even if he isnt fed the ball on the low block, i'd still like to see him down there for weakside rebounding opportunities.  He has the size and the length to keep alot of those long rebounds alive for a second scoring chance. 

[xmuscularghandix]

We're going to get a backup 3 as soon as Nate gets here and Marquis can stop playing backup PG.

[moiso]

With KG playing on crutches and Sheed playing like crap, I think a strong rebounding PF is actually our biggest position of need.

Quise, Nate and TA will plug the 1,2 &3 better than most other teams at those positions, but our backup guards/small forwards were never the issue.  Not having the Big Ticket above 60% is what's eating us right now IMO...

We could sign Drew Gooden if he get's bought out which is what people are thinking could happen.

Don't know if it truly fits the need for a strong rebounding PF but I wouldn't mind if the C's took a look at him.

I'd take a rebounding big over any other position.  Drew Gooden would be perfect.  Someone like Bobby Simmons adds nothing.

[lon3lytoaster]

Travis Outlaw and Mike Miller would be amazing fits. I don't think they're going to be available until the summer, though. I do hope we hop on one of them at the end of the season, though?

Does anyone know Doc's relationship with Miller? Didn't he coach him in Orlando?

[wdleehi]

With KG playing on crutches and Sheed playing like crap, I think a strong rebounding PF is actually our biggest position of need.

Quise, Nate and TA will plug the 1,2 &3 better than most other teams at those positions, but our backup guards/small forwards were never the issue.  Not having the Big Ticket above 60% is what's eating us right now IMO...

We could sign Drew Gooden if he get's bought out which is what people are thinking could happen.

Don't know if it truly fits the need for a strong rebounding PF but I wouldn't mind if the C's took a look at him.

I'd take a rebounding big over any other position.  Drew Gooden would be perfect.  Someone like Bobby Simmons adds nothing.

The Celtics already have 6 bigs.

Unless there is someone who is a major upgrade over Davis, there is not really a point in signing a 7th big.  Adding a guy that will be the 3rd big man off the bench doesn't do much for this team.


Meanwhile, a guy that can be a consistent high % 3 point shooter would have a role off the bench.  A guy that could step in and run the offense would have a role off the bench.  

[moiso]

With KG playing on crutches and Sheed playing like crap, I think a strong rebounding PF is actually our biggest position of need.

Quise, Nate and TA will plug the 1,2 &3 better than most other teams at those positions, but our backup guards/small forwards were never the issue.  Not having the Big Ticket above 60% is what's eating us right now IMO...

We could sign Drew Gooden if he get's bought out which is what people are thinking could happen.

Don't know if it truly fits the need for a strong rebounding PF but I wouldn't mind if the C's took a look at him.

I'd take a rebounding big over any other position.  Drew Gooden would be perfect.  Someone like Bobby Simmons adds nothing.

The Celtics already have 6 bigs.

Unless there is someone who is a major upgrade over Davis, there is not really a point in signing a 7th big.  Adding a guy that will be the 3rd big man off the bench doesn't do much for this team.


Meanwhile, a guy that can be a consistent high % 3 point shooter would have a role off the bench.  A guy that could step in and run the offense would have a role off the bench.  

Unless KG gets healthy enough to get 10 rebounds a game, our 6 bigs are way below average rebounding wise.  I'd much rather have Gooden and his rebounding and 17footers out there than Wallace and and his 3 point bricks and zero rebounding.  Baby can't rebound either, but at least he tries.

[moiso]

When the Sheed/Baby combo is out there, it seems like we can't get a rebound.  Substituting Gooden for one of those guys would help in that regard.

[wdleehi]

With KG playing on crutches and Sheed playing like crap, I think a strong rebounding PF is actually our biggest position of need.

Quise, Nate and TA will plug the 1,2 &3 better than most other teams at those positions, but our backup guards/small forwards were never the issue.  Not having the Big Ticket above 60% is what's eating us right now IMO...

We could sign Drew Gooden if he get's bought out which is what people are thinking could happen.

Don't know if it truly fits the need for a strong rebounding PF but I wouldn't mind if the C's took a look at him.

I'd take a rebounding big over any other position.  Drew Gooden would be perfect.  Someone like Bobby Simmons adds nothing.

The Celtics already have 6 bigs.

Unless there is someone who is a major upgrade over Davis, there is not really a point in signing a 7th big.  Adding a guy that will be the 3rd big man off the bench doesn't do much for this team.


Meanwhile, a guy that can be a consistent high % 3 point shooter would have a role off the bench.  A guy that could step in and run the offense would have a role off the bench.  

Unless KG gets healthy enough to get 10 rebounds a game, our 6 bigs are way below average rebounding wise.  I'd much rather have Gooden and his rebounding and 17footers out there than Wallace and and his 3 point bricks and zero rebounding.  Baby can't rebound either, but at least he tries.

But does he play ahead of Davis?  


He is not playing ahead of Wallace.  Wallace is the better player.  

[moiso]

With KG playing on crutches and Sheed playing like crap, I think a strong rebounding PF is actually our biggest position of need.

Quise, Nate and TA will plug the 1,2 &3 better than most other teams at those positions, but our backup guards/small forwards were never the issue.  Not having the Big Ticket above 60% is what's eating us right now IMO...

We could sign Drew Gooden if he get's bought out which is what people are thinking could happen.

Don't know if it truly fits the need for a strong rebounding PF but I wouldn't mind if the C's took a look at him.

I'd take a rebounding big over any other position.  Drew Gooden would be perfect.  Someone like Bobby Simmons adds nothing.

The Celtics already have 6 bigs.

Unless there is someone who is a major upgrade over Davis, there is not really a point in signing a 7th big.  Adding a guy that will be the 3rd big man off the bench doesn't do much for this team.


Meanwhile, a guy that can be a consistent high % 3 point shooter would have a role off the bench.  A guy that could step in and run the offense would have a role off the bench.  

Unless KG gets healthy enough to get 10 rebounds a game, our 6 bigs are way below average rebounding wise.  I'd much rather have Gooden and his rebounding and 17footers out there than Wallace and and his 3 point bricks and zero rebounding.  Baby can't rebound either, but at least he tries.

But does he play ahead of Davis?  


He is not playing ahead of Wallace.  Wallace is the better player.  

He could play ahead of either of them at different times depending on the matchups.  In the playoffs you need to have players doing battle in the paint.  Wallace doesn't do that.

[Cman]

Bobby Simmons or Mike Miller are exactly what the Cs need, especially with PP ailing a bit -- if either of these guys is bought out, I hope the Cs are all over them.