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Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »

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Oh please don't play "No paint" scal, the anti-Dutch-Boy....Rebounds are what we need really bad, play Sheldon, if anyone......What does a rebounder add, well, second chances for all shots, fouls, once he gets the ball, players hate the guy who gets the offensive rebound..it is....offensive, "who's man is that? Who was supposed to box him out?" Then if he scores on it, painful, if he kicks it out, another Defensive stance......and, at the very least, no fast breaks, the rebounder is always in the way.....Doc, get the rebounder going again, stop that "guard" mentality that you have..!

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2010, 07:11:44 PM »

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Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2010, 07:30:53 PM »

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Worse case scenario:  Doc ends up using Scal at the 3 to match up with bigger opponents at that position.  The bright side is that Doc would actually be paying attention to matchups...

Do you have a prediction of who we could land as a taller backup 3?
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No clue.  It's always hard to read the buyout market until it happens.  Roger Mason would like out of San Antone and would be a nice pickup, but is a SG at 6'5".  Will Miami buy out James Jones, the little-used 6-8 shooter?  This is probably the level of talent that'd be available:  not better than TA, but with a different skill (shooting, size).

Possible to pick up someone else, i.e. taking a flier on comeback guys like Darius Miles, Wally Scissorback, or (gulp) offering some forgiveness to the now-thicker Ricky Buckets?  Or giving a D-League guy a shot?

I think someone will get picked up, but probably won't amount to much.  Doc will probably just go with Scal at the 3 either way.
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Scal at the 3 is a worst case scenario I'd rather not visit!  Isn't Marquis healthy enough to play backup 3 now?

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2010, 07:34:05 PM »

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The thing is, if we get a "big 3" to guard the larger 3s of the league, he better be talented.  There's no point in getting some 6-8 scrub who is lost offensively and only adequate defensively.  If the only option is someone like that, we're better off just letting Marquis (and to an extent TA) just handle the duties. 

While size is nice, talent is even more important.  Marquis Daniels vs. LeBron is better than Scal any day, because Marquis will at least challenge LeBron to guard him on the other end of the court.  There's no point in putting a player out there that LeBron can just cheat off or/rest on all day defensively. 

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2010, 07:38:17 PM »

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Scal has guarded the bigger 3s this season because TA and Quisy have rarely been healthy at the same time. Notice in the SAC game, Scal did not play at all. I don't think that we have a NEED for a back up wing player but I would definitely be looking to replace TA. Not a fan of low BBIQ players
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Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2010, 07:44:25 PM »

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Our biggest need is internal improvement. Perk playing more like he did against the Lakers then how he was playing the month before that. KG getting healthier and some of his athleticism back. Same for Pierce. Ray knocking down 3s at 38-39% rather then 34%. Sheed being more consistent on both ends of the floor. Everybody stepping up on the boards and defense. Signing some mediocre player who gets bought out isn't going to make a difference.

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2010, 08:22:39 PM »

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C's don't have a big goon at the end of the bench like they used such as Hank Finkel, Bruno Sundov, etc.  C'mon, it'd a tradition!

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2010, 04:15:41 AM »

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Here's a tentative list some very unlikely

Mike Miller (Highly doubt it)
Raja Bell (just said he wants no buyout, but so did Joe Smith a year back)

Travis Outlaw (be nice but I think the Clips like him, I think there's a good chance he comes in free agency)

Tim Thomas (Doesn't seem to be much a part of Mavs plans and he wanted to come here first?)

Bobby Simmons (Don't know much about him but not much in use on the worst team in the league, do we want him?)

Quinton Ross (ehh, outside of the corner 3 TA and he do the same things when Tony is playing well)

James Jones ( can shoot, not a bad defender and Dorell Wright and Quentin Richardson are taking most of the minutes at SF and the Heat could get below the luxury tax by waiving him, and he might flourish with more minutes...might be a fit)


Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2010, 05:23:44 AM »

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Here's a tentative list some very unlikely

Mike Miller (Highly doubt it)
Raja Bell (just said he wants no buyout, but so did Joe Smith a year back)

Travis Outlaw (be nice but I think the Clips like him, I think there's a good chance he comes in free agency)

Tim Thomas (Doesn't seem to be much a part of Mavs plans and he wanted to come here first?)

Bobby Simmons (Don't know much about him but not much in use on the worst team in the league, do we want him?)

Quinton Ross (ehh, outside of the corner 3 TA and he do the same things when Tony is playing well)

James Jones ( can shoot, not a bad defender and Dorell Wright and Quentin Richardson are taking most of the minutes at SF and the Heat could get below the luxury tax by waiving him, and he might flourish with more minutes...might be a fit)


Nobody on that list sounds like a good fit.  Anybody coming here is #10 in the rotation at best, so they are not getting many minutes.

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2010, 06:58:58 AM »

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Ricky Davis is already available, I think we need to get him now before someone else get him, and then we have one more spot left and time to see who is going to be bought out and what are our other needs, but on board to bring back Ricky Davis back in green

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« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2010, 08:33:47 AM »

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Here's a tentative list some very unlikely

Mike Miller (Highly doubt it)
Raja Bell (just said he wants no buyout, but so did Joe Smith a year back)

Travis Outlaw (be nice but I think the Clips like him, I think there's a good chance he comes in free agency)

Tim Thomas (Doesn't seem to be much a part of Mavs plans and he wanted to come here first?)

Bobby Simmons (Don't know much about him but not much in use on the worst team in the league, do we want him?)

Quinton Ross (ehh, outside of the corner 3 TA and he do the same things when Tony is playing well)

James Jones ( can shoot, not a bad defender and Dorell Wright and Quentin Richardson are taking most of the minutes at SF and the Heat could get below the luxury tax by waiving him, and he might flourish with more minutes...might be a fit)


Nobody on that list sounds like a good fit.  Anybody coming here is #10 in the rotation at best, so they are not getting many minutes.

Adding 1 more, Kurt Thomas.


http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64511/20100206/kurt_thomas_an_option_for_contenders/

Would like to add Bell and the best big man available. Any big man should be an improvement over SW & Scal. Rebounding and defense desired.


While we basically have the 10 man rotation now we need to be ready for the next injury. Going into the playoffs it's good to have options for various matchups.

Maybe another topic, but how certain is Big Z going back to CLE? Would he be open to any other team (even outside Boston)? Based on the last 2 games CLE isn't quite the same team without him (playing with Shaq or subbing for him).

Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2010, 08:42:57 AM »

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I see Bobby Simmons being bought out.

Considering his size and shooting ability, I agree he's a good fit considering the guys who may get bought out.
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Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2010, 08:45:46 AM »

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A big PG so Nate can be the SG on offense. 

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13611/james-expected-to-leave-wiz-in-buyout

Just  saw this on Mike Jame's most likely getting bought out... Would he be a pg you would like to bring in wdleehi, even though he is only 6'2.


He is done. 

Just wondering... Who is a guard that you would like to bring in because I can't think of many who will be bought out that I would like sign.

No clue.  I was looking at the Celtics roster, not trying to guess who may or may not be bought out.  


Daniels is the SF the Celtics need.  TA is the defensive SG.  Nate is a small PG sized offensive SG.  

They just don't have a true backup PG.

Mardy Collins? Doesn't seem like much of a buyout candidate, but they did just get Blake in LAC.
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Re: Our biggest outstanding need (Backup 3 - buyout candidates)
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2010, 09:13:12 AM »

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raja would be awesome, al harington, he would be a lift. unfortunately i doubt either of these guys gets bought out.

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« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2010, 09:28:39 AM »

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We dont need a "true" backup point guard. We have Rondo, who will be playing a large amount of minutes come playoff time. We just need someone who can bring the ball up the floor while handling pressure and have the ability to score at will = nate robinson