What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?

[nickagneta]

If Tim Tebow was so beloved by God and God knew Tebow was going to be a QB, you would have though he would have provided Tebow with like, you know, an NFL caliber arm and the ability to accurately throw a football.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Tebow will never win a Superbowl and may never win a playoff game in his entire NFL career, which should be over by about the end on the 2013 season.

[indeedproceed]

If Tim Tebow was so beloved by God and God knew Tebow was going to be a QB, you would have though he would have provided Tebow with like, you know, an NFL caliber arm and the ability to accurately throw a football.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Tebow will never win a Superbowl and may never win a playoff game in his entire NFL career, which should be over by about the end on the 2013 season.

Ye, as doth debbie downers emergeth, the Tebow merely looketh at them witheth brighteth eyes and sayeth, Be you not mad, hater, for I am the Lord (of the option offense).

[Fafnir]

If Tim Tebow was so beloved by God and God knew Tebow was going to be a QB, you would have though he would have provided Tebow with like, you know, an NFL caliber arm and the ability to accurately throw a football.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Tebow will never win a Superbowl and may never win a playoff game in his entire NFL career, which should be over by about the end on the 2013 season.

You can win a playoff game with a bad QB, but I don't think he's someone you can build around or win a SB with.

[MBunge]

If Tim Tebow was so beloved by God and God knew Tebow was going to be a QB, you would have though he would have provided Tebow with like, you know, an NFL caliber arm and the ability to accurately throw a football.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Tebow will never win a Superbowl and may never win a playoff game in his entire NFL career, which should be over by about the end on the 2013 season.

You can win a playoff game with a bad QB, but I don't think he's someone you can build around or win a SB with.

You mean like Trent Dilfer?

Mike

[Fan from VT]

Nevertheless I get in line behind Skip Bayless (RIGHT behind. Whoever you are, you are #3 behind me). I'm not taking Tebow over Aaron Rodgers in the 4th quarter. I'd think about it though

I hate hate hate football announcers for discussions like this that try to boil a 53 man roster game down to 1 player on 1/2 the possession, not counting special teams.

Denver needed 3 overtime possessions to win a game 16 to 13 yesterday. That is a HORRIBLE offense, and everyone involved should be ashamed of that offense.

The real tragedy (if sports can even really have tragedies as such) is that the conversation is not about how phenomenal a turnaround the Broncos Defense has made. They are playing incredibly well; it is unreal that a team that can't break the 18 point barrier or so (at least without a Return TD or a Pick Six) can win this many games, and has Everything to do with the 11+ players on the defensive side of the ball and is being done IN SPITE OF the basically inept offense.

I find this all entertaining because I trust stats and history, and cannot wait for the denver front office to buy into the unwarranted media hype, lock up tebow and build around him, only to have this completely unsustainable method of winning come crashing down around them and have to rebuild.

And it is unsustainable: You cannot sustain this record with that low margin of victory, and cannot predictably win overtime games, especially when one required a fumble and the other required a stop and a missed field goal and your offense required 3 possessions just to have your kicker be able to get a FG attempt off.

[GreenFaith1819]

Tim continues to surprise folks.

I absolutely love it. All that matters is the W, and DEN seems to be doing that a lot lately.

No matter how this ends for DEN and Tebow, he is proving that great numbers are only a portion of the equation - not the whole.

Keep it up, Denver!

[Lord of Mikawa]

I've never wanted to see someone fail like Tebow. He is the worst QB I have seen in my 14 years of watching the NFL.

[MBz]

If Tim Tebow was so beloved by God and God knew Tebow was going to be a QB, you would have though he would have provided Tebow with like, you know, an NFL caliber arm and the ability to accurately throw a football.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Tebow will never win a Superbowl and may never win a playoff game in his entire NFL career, which should be over by about the end on the 2013 season.

You can win a playoff game with a bad QB, but I don't think he's someone you can build around or win a SB with.

You mean like Trent Dilfer?

Mike

Trent Dilfer controlled the game, but they also had the BEST defense of all time.  If any defense in the league played like that Baltimore defense, they'd win the super bowl easily.

[Jon]

Yeah, still not sold on Tebow.  That doesn't mean he can't win some games because of the defense of the Broncos or that he couldn't play tolerably enough to even be somewhat successful on a very good team (like Dilfer).  However, a team will never win because of Tebow. 

And before anyone starts ripping me about the past few games and his "comebacks" ask yourself this: if the Broncos had a superior quarterback, would they have been losing in the first place?  No. 

You put a top 10 quarterback on the Broncos, and they simply win the games decidedly instead of "coming back" from behind. 

[MBunge]

if the Broncos had a superior quarterback, would they have been losing in the first place?  No. 

You put a top 10 quarterback on the Broncos, and they simply win the games decidedly instead of "coming back" from behind. 

Um, they had a guy who everybody in the league, including the Denver coaching staff, thought was a superior quarterback to Tebow and they were 1-4.

I'm trying to figure out what the standard is here by which Tebow is being judged.

First, it was that he simply couldn't play in the NFL.  Then he got on the field and that no longer applied.

Then it was that the team was winning but Tebow's stats sucked.  Well, he just put up perfectly decent stats in leading his team over San Diego, a win that exactly ZERO of the Tebow haters thought Denver would pull off.

Is the standard now that Tebow sucks because he's never going to be Joe Montana or Petyon Manning?

Mike

[Jon]

if the Broncos had a superior quarterback, would they have been losing in the first place?  No. 

You put a top 10 quarterback on the Broncos, and they simply win the games decidedly instead of "coming back" from behind. 

Um, they had a guy who everybody in the league, including the Denver coaching staff, thought was a superior quarterback to Tebow and they were 1-4.

I'm trying to figure out what the standard is here by which Tebow is being judged.

First, it was that he simply couldn't play in the NFL.  Then he got on the field and that no longer applied.

Then it was that the team was winning but Tebow's stats sucked.  Well, he just put up perfectly decent stats in leading his team over San Diego, a win that exactly ZERO of the Tebow haters thought Denver would pull off.

Is the standard now that Tebow sucks because he's never going to be Joe Montana or Petyon Manning?

Mike

I still wouldn't hold my breath on him.  I've lived in Philadelphia for nearly 20 years now and have seen all sorts of flash-in-the-pan quarterback action here with A.J. Feely, Koy and Ty Detmer, and Kevin Kolb all showing flashes for a few games before amounting to nothing (or in Kolb's case, mediocrity). 

Could Tebow miraculously evolve?  Maybe.  Brady certainly evolved tremendously from his first year to where he is today.  But if he keeps running the ball everytime, teams will eventually figure it out.  I see Belichick for one taking away the run, forcing Tebow to throw, and totally exposing him.  Then, I see the rest of the league copycatting that. 

If Tebow can overcome that, he has a chance.  But what he's doing now isn't going to work forever (or much longer). 

[MBunge]

I still wouldn't hold my breath on him.  I've lived in Philadelphia for nearly 20 years now and have seen all sorts of flash-in-the-pan quarterback action here with A.J. Feely, Koy and Ty Detmer, and Kevin Kolb all showing flashes for a few games before amounting to nothing (or in Kolb's case, mediocrity). 

But here's the thing.  The whole Tebow deal isn't based on fans calling him the greatest thing ever.  It's based on people saying he can't even play in the league.  Not that he's going to be Feely or the Detmers or Kolb or even Kordell Stewart but that he literally CAN'T play in the NFL and that you're better off playing someone like Kyle Orton, even if the team goes 1-4 and looks like crap.

Besides all the other crap like religion and what have you, this was about a guy who expert after expert after expert loudly and vehemently said shouldn't even get a chance to get on the field.  Now it's about the fact that the guy is winning and those experts don't care.

The whole thing reminds me of Kurt Warner.  You can make a pretty good argument that Warner should wind up in the Hall of Fame, but he might NEVER have gotten a chance to start if Trent Green hadn't been injured and out for the season.  That's because Warner was an undrafted guy out of the University of Northern Iowa and no one, absolutely no one, was every going to give him a chance to be a starter.  He was never going to be more than the 3rd or 4th quarterback invited to camp to compete for the back up QB spot.  In 1998, he was third string behind Steve Bono and Tony Banks.  The next year, he led the Rams to a Super Bowl victory.  Are you going to tell me something magical happened that turned Warner from a guy who couldn't beat out two career journeymen into a league MVP?

Mike

[Eja117]

If Tim Tebow was so beloved by God and God knew Tebow was going to be a QB, you would have though he would have provided Tebow with like, you know, an NFL caliber arm and the ability to accurately throw a football.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Tebow will never win a Superbowl and may never win a playoff game in his entire NFL career, which should be over by about the end on the 2013 season.

Oh cmon. He's already better than Brett Farve.  You know who had a really really really good arm? Ryan Leaf. 

I love that hitch in his arm, and the way he pulls the ball so far back there's like that 5 second pause before he releases. You'd think real NFL defensive backs would be able to pick that off but it never happens.

Hey. NFL defender. When are you going to figure out this kid with no arm who can't hit the side of a ....woah! What was that? It was Tebow! He just went right by you! Call Ndamkah Suh! Call the National Guard and the FBI!  Get our best guys on this to figure it out pronto.

[Eja117]

Yeah, still not sold on Tebow.  That doesn't mean he can't win some games because of the defense of the Broncos or that he couldn't play tolerably enough to even be somewhat successful on a very good team (like Dilfer).  However, a team will never win because of Tebow. 

And before anyone starts ripping me about the past few games and his "comebacks" ask yourself this: if the Broncos had a superior quarterback, would they have been losing in the first place?  No. 

You put a top 10 quarterback on the Broncos, and they simply win the games decidedly instead of "coming back" from behind. 

People around here don't seem to mind when Brady has a game winning drive. I'm pretty sure Elway got some good press around that too. And wasn't there some big thing about going for it on 4th an 2 because they didn't want to give the ball back to Peyton Manning?  Wasn't Brett Farve known for late game heroics at one time, before he became known for late game killer INTs? 

[Eja117]

My grandkid *better* not be saying "Tommy Frazier who?"  There's no need to bag on Eric Crouch, either.

I can see there appears to be a BIG 12/Nebraska bias in the poll. This was unintentional. I loved those Nebraska QBs and Brook Bollinger and I wish they had done well in the pros. It just wasn't to be