Nate Robinson readily available?

[dark_lord]

im in the minority, but i would like the idea of getting nate, depending on what we give up for him.  i think he would really help out the second unit.  he is a game changer, solid defender, can create his own shot, and pretty good passer.

he strikes me as a guy, who when on an opposing team u hate, but if on your team u love. 

[Prof. Clutch]

Upon first hearing about all of this I was excited to see Robinson wanted to come to the Celtics.  I always new Nate as a loud, expressive player on the court and simply associated it with being a positive quality having to do with pride/passion (a la KG.)  I'm learning otherwise reading this thread.  I never new about the fighting with teammates and such, which signifies that he doesn't know how to tone this stuff down when it bleeds over to the locker room.  Definitely makes me think twice about it, and if we're acquiring him as a luxury rather than a necessity, it's probably not worth the risk.

Who knows, sometimes all a guy needs is the right place/situation to figure it out.  If they can pull if off for a Walker/Giddens style salary dump however, Boston would be taking a high reward/low risk to see if that place is here.

[Rtpas11]

I'm all for Nate Robinson coming to Boston. LIL NATE COM On' Down!!! The jersey #8 in my profile pic says scorer. He's just the type of player we need to wear that jersey. Employee #8 Com on Down!!! ..lol although he's probably going to wear #4 still because J.R. will get the boot!. Hahaha!!!!

[xmuscularghandix]

Maybe Nate can get himself in enough trouble with the coach and the NY Media that we can just snag him. I don't wanna give away everything for him but we definitely have the expirings to get him.

I know he's nothing great defensively but he is the type of player who can be a part of the the regular rotation. He has had no major injuries, he seems like a fun guy to have around the locker room, and he's young... that's always good.

BUT i do not trade anybody on this team who's played decent minutes.

[scoop]

Yeah, in a vacuum Robinson is a better player than House. But he's a much worse fit - and I'm not even considering chemistry. D'Antoni shut him down because he wasn't helping the Knicks win and people believe he'd help a much better team like the Cs?

People worry about that "2nd unit" thing too much. When it matters, it's not about a 2nd unit but the 3 top guys off the bench and it's not about their quality but how they complement the starters.

[Rtpas11]

I'm trying to do a Nate Robinson trade on RealGM and on ESPN. Anyone got a trade to work? Having a hard time getting a successful trade going....

[Rtpas11]

Got one... Give cash to Memphis, and they'll Release Scal and we'll sign him back.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5335813

[greg683x]

I know giving up Giddens and Walker seems like nothing, but what if we make this trade and god forbid Pierce went down?  After Pierce we wouldnt have a legit SF on this team at all.  You can make a case that Daniels has the height for it but we all know he shouldnt be playing SF let alone starting SF, he'd get abused and not to mention theres no guarantee he'd stay healthy either.  Yes we do have TA back, but I hope we all remember how wonderfully the whole TA playing backup SF thing worked out last year.


Also, that article that Roy posted is alarming.  Why do we feel like we need to take on all these selfish players that have these horrible reputations.  We tried it with Marbury and thank god the worst thing that happened was that he didnt play well.  Now since that went semi well we're wanting to take on the Iversons, the Nate Robinsons, all these selfish players.  Someone tried to use already having 'Sheed as an excuse to sign him.  Say what you want about some of Wallaces decisions on the court, but he's always been regarded as a good locker room guy and someone who wants to win.

I know our team chamistry seems full proof and any cancer would be out outnumbered in our locker room but all it takes is one person to start planting seeds in peoples heads.  If we start playing with fire all the time, eventually we're gonna get burned.

[houseonfire09]

I'm trying to do a Nate Robinson trade on RealGM and on ESPN. Anyone got a trade to work? Having a hard time getting a successful trade going....

Here's one.  Couldn't trade for Robinson, but I put in 2 salaries that were close to $4 million (Robinson's salary).
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yz5ldgw

[Rtpas11]

I'm trying to do a Nate Robinson trade on RealGM and on ESPN. Anyone got a trade to work? Having a hard time getting a successful trade going....

Here's one.  Couldn't trade for Robinson, but I put in 2 salaries that were close to $4 million (Robinson's salary).
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yz5ldgw

your link isn't working...

[Rtpas11]

I know giving up Giddens and Walker seems like nothing, but what if we make this trade and god forbid Pierce went down?  After Pierce we wouldnt have a legit SF on this team at all.  You can make a case that Daniels has the height for it but we all know he shouldnt be playing SF let alone starting SF, he'd get abused and not to mention theres no guarantee he'd stay healthy either.  Yes we do have TA back, but I hope we all remember how wonderfully the whole TA playing backup SF thing worked out last year.


Also, that article that Roy posted is alarming.  Why do we feel like we need to take on all these selfish players that have these horrible reputations.  We tried it with Marbury and thank god the worst thing that happened was that he didnt play well.  Now since that went semi well we're wanting to take on the Iversons, the Nate Robinsons, all these selfish players.  Someone tried to use already having 'Sheed as an excuse to sign him.  Say what you want about some of Wallaces decisions on the court, but he's always been regarded as a good locker room guy and someone who wants to win.

I know our team chamistry seems full proof and any cancer would be out outnumbered in our locker room but all it takes is one person to start planting seeds in peoples heads.  If we start playing with fire all the time, eventually we're gonna get burned.

My friend my friend my friend...listen. we don't care about attitude we care about talent and winning. if it was about attitude...Boy what the heck are we doing with Rasheed Wallace??? He's the #1 guy in the NBA when you speak about attitude. Although his attitude is mostly aimed towards refs, its still is one and it does over-time hurt his team (suspensions, tech free throws, and momentum swings). Again i could careless about his attitude because he has the talent and so does Nate Robinson, so does Allen Iverson, so does Marbury when in NBA Condition, and so does every so-called past (Rodman) or future "cancers" most talk about on here.

and last... if Pierce goes down Doc will not reach out to Bill Wlaker as a savior..lol now Giddens. He'll look @ Quis 1st, Tony 2ND, Scal Third and even Glen Davis before reaching out to those guys...

[houseonfire09]

I'm trying to do a Nate Robinson trade on RealGM and on ESPN. Anyone got a trade to work? Having a hard time getting a successful trade going....

Here's one.  Couldn't trade for Robinson, but I put in 2 salaries that were close to $4 million (Robinson's salary).
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yz5ldgw

your link isn't working...

I guess it isn't.  That's annoying.  Anyways, I traded Scal, Walker, and Giddens for him (or the two guys that almost matched his salary).

[Jon]

I'd be up for a trial run of him if it didn't cost us much, but I wouldn't count on him contributing.  I think the only way he can positively contribute here is if he beats out Eddie House as the backup PG.  I don't think a dwarf backcourt of those two will help us one bit.  And while I'm not always thrilled with what Eddie brings, I think the spacing and big shots he delivers make up for the shoddy ball-handling.  However, I'm not 100% of that and I'd be up for seeing if a guy with a better handle could help the bench.  

However, I think once Marquis is back, the whole notion of a ball-handler off the bench will lessen.

But if the Knicks are just looking to dump him for someone like Gidden or they straight up cut him, I say we might as well roll the dice.  

[CelticG1]

I know giving up Giddens and Walker seems like nothing, but what if we make this trade and god forbid Pierce went down?  After Pierce we wouldnt have a legit SF on this team at all.  You can make a case that Daniels has the height for it but we all know he shouldnt be playing SF let alone starting SF, he'd get abused and not to mention theres no guarantee he'd stay healthy either.  Yes we do have TA back, but I hope we all remember how wonderfully the whole TA playing backup SF thing worked out last year.


Also, that article that Roy posted is alarming.  Why do we feel like we need to take on all these selfish players that have these horrible reputations.  We tried it with Marbury and thank god the worst thing that happened was that he didnt play well.  Now since that went semi well we're wanting to take on the Iversons, the Nate Robinsons, all these selfish players.  Someone tried to use already having 'Sheed as an excuse to sign him.  Say what you want about some of Wallaces decisions on the court, but he's always been regarded as a good locker room guy and someone who wants to win.

I know our team chamistry seems full proof and any cancer would be out outnumbered in our locker room but all it takes is one person to start planting seeds in peoples heads.  If we start playing with fire all the time, eventually we're gonna get burned.

Those article are from 3 years ago. Larry Brown was the coach so it's not like it happened recently. If you say or do something like Nate did does that ever get forgiven? In 10 years if we want to pick him up are we going to look back at this article? I at least would like to see something recent. That was what his second year in the league? Some of that stuff sounded pretty bad but also pretty similar to a lot of other young guys in the league. Carmelo got suspended for half that season because of that fight and I'm sure people would have no problem bringing him in. So if people don't want him because he doesn't fit the team, isn't good, too short than thats fine. If people don't want him because he's selfish, or has character issues I think thats just being a little ridiculous. Look around the NBA, who hasn't had some of those issues?

With all that said I am not too interested in picking him up. I think we are rolling right now and he doesn't exactly fit a need. If we were swapping Eddie for Nate maybe, because I can't really see them co-existing on the floor together, but other than that I just see it as more of a problem than anything else.

[greg683x]

I know giving up Giddens and Walker seems like nothing, but what if we make this trade and god forbid Pierce went down?  After Pierce we wouldnt have a legit SF on this team at all.  You can make a case that Daniels has the height for it but we all know he shouldnt be playing SF let alone starting SF, he'd get abused and not to mention theres no guarantee he'd stay healthy either.  Yes we do have TA back, but I hope we all remember how wonderfully the whole TA playing backup SF thing worked out last year.


Also, that article that Roy posted is alarming.  Why do we feel like we need to take on all these selfish players that have these horrible reputations.  We tried it with Marbury and thank god the worst thing that happened was that he didnt play well.  Now since that went semi well we're wanting to take on the Iversons, the Nate Robinsons, all these selfish players.  Someone tried to use already having 'Sheed as an excuse to sign him.  Say what you want about some of Wallaces decisions on the court, but he's always been regarded as a good locker room guy and someone who wants to win.

I know our team chamistry seems full proof and any cancer would be out outnumbered in our locker room but all it takes is one person to start planting seeds in peoples heads.  If we start playing with fire all the time, eventually we're gonna get burned.

My friend my friend my friend...listen. we don't care about attitude we care about talent and winning. if it was about attitude...Boy what the heck are we doing with Rasheed Wallace??? He's the #1 guy in the NBA when you speak about attitude. Although his attitude is mostly aimed towards refs, its still is one and it does over-time hurt his team (suspensions, tech free throws, and momentum swings). Again i could careless about his attitude because he has the talent and so does Nate Robinson, so does Allen Iverson, so does Marbury when in NBA Condition, and so does every so-called past (Rodman) or future "cancers" most talk about on here.

and last... if Pierce goes down Doc will not reach out to Bill Wlaker as a savior..lol now Giddens. He'll look @ Quis 1st, Tony 2ND, Scal Third and even Glen Davis before reaching out to those guys...

you clearly didnt read my post because I described how 'Sheeds downfalls do not fall into the same category.

Also, my friend, my friend, my friend as you condescendingly referred to me.  Talent and winning dont always go hand in hand.  If you dont agree with me then why are the New York Knicks a disaster.  How come Mark Cuban  cant win a title.  How come Dan Snyder can buy every talented free agent in football and hasnt been successful in over a decade.  How come Allen Iverson couldnt get a job?

You need continuity, you need team play and everyone working together.  Talented people who dont pass the ball and are out to get theirs dont fall into that category, and all it takes is one of them to ruin a good situation.  Otherwise there wouldve been a bidding war for Allen Iverson instead of him getting a pitty contract from the 76ers.

Adding Nate may not do much harm, he could fit in well, but to dismiss my comments and say 'we dont care about attitude, we care about talent and winning'  is a complete joke.