Eli Manning signs ridiculous extension!

[nickagneta]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4378407

6 year/$97.5 million for a quarterback that has finished 14th, 24th, 18th, and 23rd in quarterback ratings over the last 4 year and who over his first 4 1/2 years in the league has a completion percentage of 55% and a passer rating of 76 while averaging 21.5 TDs and 16.5 Ints per season.

Are these really the numbers that one of the highest paid players in the entire league should be getting paid?

I know we have some Giants fans on board here and wonder what they think. Is this another case of a Manning being so greedy that he handicaps his team from getting better by demanding an unrealistic amount of a 56 member teams salary outlay?

I just can't understand what the Giants are doing here. Their defensive line, one of the game's most improbable catches, one of the tallest WRs in history playing against midgets and toughness and attitude won them their last Superbowl. Not Eli Manning.

After the new CBA is put in place and there is once again a salary cap, this contract is going to ruin a very, very good team long term.

[jv2764]

The 6 years for 97.5m are just accounting numbers.  Its really a 35M guaranteed deal.

[jv2764]

Manning took over as the Giants' starter midway through his rookie season and he has led New York to the playoffs in each of the past four seasons.

Manning went to the Pro Bowl for the first time after last season, when he passed for 3,238 yards and 21 touchdowns. He also threw only 10 interceptions, 10 fewer than the previous season.

Manning has started the last 71 games for New York, the third-longest streak among active quarterbacks at the end of last season. During that span he also has become the first Giants quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards and at least 20 touchdowns in four consecutive.

His best years are ahead of him

[jv2764]

And he has a Super Bowl and a Supr Bowl MVP trophy to hus resume.

Not bad for after 4 years.

[wdleehi]

Yes, that's fine.  

Giants do a good job managing the Cap.  


Eli is the franchise QB.  (how many teams have the SB MVP at QB)

More then I would have thought, yes.  

And I am guessing, like most huge contracts, it will end up not being a 6 year deal, being renegotiated before then.

[nickagneta]

I see mediocrity.

[wdleehi]

I see mediocrity.

Never has missed the playoffs when he is the starter for game 1. 

Won the SB MVP.



How many teams would kill for that? 

[jv2764]

Look at what matt cassel just signed.  I think he got $28 Million guaranteed and Manning got $35 M guaranteed.

[nickagneta]

I see mediocrity.

Never has missed the playoffs when he is the starter for game 1. 

Won the SB MVP.



How many teams would kill for that? 

two years ago you were arguing that the Giants defense was the best defensive line in the league and were THE reason why the Giants beat the Pats. Everyone knows Manning didn't deserve that MVP, the defensive line did. He had a mediocre game. He played just well enough for his team not to lose and did everything he could in the fourth tom lose the game but the Pats dropped three game clinching interceptions.

The Giants have made the playoffs for four straight years because of a very, very good defense and a very good rushing game. Most of those four years the Giants won in spite of Eli not because of him.

[wdleehi]

I see mediocrity.

Never has missed the playoffs when he is the starter for game 1. 

Won the SB MVP.



How many teams would kill for that? 

two years ago you were arguing that the Giants defense was the best defensive line in the league and were THE reason why the Giants beat the Pats. Everyone knows Manning didn't deserve that MVP, the defensive line did. He had a mediocre game. He played just well enough for his team not to lose and did everything he could in the fourth tom lose the game but the Pats dropped three game clinching interceptions.

The Giants have made the playoffs for four straight years because of a very, very good defense and a very good rushing game. Most of those four years the Giants won in spite of Eli not because of him.

Giants had the best DE in the league and it was a big part for the Super Bowl victory.  Take away Manning and replace him with say, Romo, be out in the 1st round.


That's the cost of franchise QBs.  Next year or the following, another QB will become the highest payed QB just because his contract is up. 


(PS  The Giants pass rush is starting to look good again, this time with a better secondary)

[Jon]

I see mediocrity.

Never has missed the playoffs when he is the starter for game 1. 

Won the SB MVP.



How many teams would kill for that? 

two years ago you were arguing that the Giants defense was the best defensive line in the league and were THE reason why the Giants beat the Pats. Everyone knows Manning didn't deserve that MVP, the defensive line did. He had a mediocre game. He played just well enough for his team not to lose and did everything he could in the fourth tom lose the game but the Pats dropped three game clinching interceptions.

The Giants have made the playoffs for four straight years because of a very, very good defense and a very good rushing game. Most of those four years the Giants won in spite of Eli not because of him.

Amen to that.  I still see that ball going straight through Asante Samuel's hands.  And that miracle throw to Tyree was about the stupidest thing he could've done and should've been another interception, but miracle of all miracles it worked out for him. 

Talk about getting lucky that game.  That's why I'm happy the NBA is best of 7 and crap teams rarely beat good teams in the playoffs. 

[wdleehi]

The 6 years for 97.5m are just accounting numbers.  Its really a 35M guaranteed deal.

That's less the Albert Haynesworth is guaranteed.

[jv2764]

I see mediocrity.

Never has missed the playoffs when he is the starter for game 1. 

Won the SB MVP.



How many teams would kill for that? 

two years ago you were arguing that the Giants defense was the best defensive line in the league and were THE reason why the Giants beat the Pats. Everyone knows Manning didn't deserve that MVP, the defensive line did. He had a mediocre game. He played just well enough for his team not to lose and did everything he could in the fourth tom lose the game but the Pats dropped three game clinching interceptions.

The Giants have made the playoffs for four straight years because of a very, very good defense and a very good rushing game. Most of those four years the Giants won in spite of Eli not because of him.

Sounds alot like Tom Brady's MVP against the Ram in Feb 2002 no?

[nickagneta]

I see mediocrity.

Never has missed the playoffs when he is the starter for game 1. 

Won the SB MVP.



How many teams would kill for that? 

two years ago you were arguing that the Giants defense was the best defensive line in the league and were THE reason why the Giants beat the Pats. Everyone knows Manning didn't deserve that MVP, the defensive line did. He had a mediocre game. He played just well enough for his team not to lose and did everything he could in the fourth tom lose the game but the Pats dropped three game clinching interceptions.

The Giants have made the playoffs for four straight years because of a very, very good defense and a very good rushing game. Most of those four years the Giants won in spite of Eli not because of him.

Sounds alot like Tom Brady's MVP against the Ram in Feb 2002 no?

No because as mediocre as Brady played that game he didn't make horrible decisions that were rewarded by mistakes by the other team that gave him continuous second and third chances.

Actually in that game it was once again the Pats that made mistakes that tried to give the game away. Remember McGinest's holding call on Faulk that negated the interception return late in the game?

[Cman]

In general, I don't care about the Giants.  The only reason I care about what the Giants pay Eli is that it basically increases the amount that the Pats will offer Brady when his contract is renegotiated.  And this in turn reduces what the Pats will be able to pay others on the team.