2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[Kwhit10]

Ok team is pretty much filled out

Starters
C:Andrew Bynum
PF:Emeka Okafor
SF:Carmelo Anthony
SG:Ronnie Brewer
PG:Baron Davis

Backups:
Jannero Pargo PG/SG When he is on fire he can light it up
Anthony Parker SG/SF Shoots at a high clip, plays good defense
Ronaldo Balkman SF/PF great energy guy off the bench
Joe Smith PF/C has his mid range shot, good as a backup.

The rest:
Steve Novak PF great 3pt shooter
Joey Graham SG shoots at a high clip overall
Lindsey Hunter PG will thrive against whoever has Eddie House 
Will Soloman PG played well when Calderon went down, fan favorite 
Tim Thomas PF can defend better as a PF, nice 3pt shot too
Francisco Elson C can do what is needed in spot minutes.

Really strong on defense.  If you run alot on offense, I think you can make do with your lack of shooting. 


Biggest concern is the depth of your big men.  Bynum has shown to be soft when injuries happen.  Do you think Joe Smith could step in for him if it was to happen a third year in a row? 

If Bynum went down Okafor would see extended time at C, he did it in Charlotte even though he is more suited for PF.

but who;s your starting PF in that case? isn;t it joe smith?

If so, the question remains. joe smith isn't exactly a guy you can throw out there for 30+ a night.

I'd put Balkman at PF, he's played there equal time there as SF and he actually performed better at PF.
http://www.82games.com/0809/08DEN10.HTM#bypos

[indeedproceed]

Starting 5:
Rajon Rondo
Roger Mason Jr
Josh Howard
Al Jefferson
Andres Biedrins

Bench, in order of anticipated playing time:
Kyle Korver (2/3)
Bruce Bowen (3)
Nate Robinson (1)/Josh McRoberts (4)
Ersan Ilyasova (3/4)
Kosta Koufos (5)
CJ Watson (1)
Darell Arthur

D-League
Serge Ibaka (4/5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzK6GmfDcpc

[nickagneta]

Starting 5:
Rajon Rondo
Roger Mason Jr
Josh Howard
Al Jefferson
Andres Biedrins

Bench, in order of anticipated playing time:
Kyle Korver (2/3)
Bruce Bowen (3)
Nate Robinson (1)/Josh McRoberts (4)
Ersan Ilyasova (3/4)
Kosta Koufos (5)
CJ Watson (1)
Serge Ibaka (4/5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzK6GmfDcpc

You know, Andris gets p.oed  if you don't spell his name right and he might refuse to report if you don't start spelling it correctly. That would suck!!! 

[riah32]

So whats everyone think of my roster now thats its almost filled out now:
PG:Flynn/Jennings/Williams/Sasha
SG:Roy/Mo Pete/Sasha/Sam Young
SF:Hedo/Young/Mo Pete
PF:Al Harrington/Dante Cunnigham/dalembert 
C:Dalembert/Thabeet

i like johnny flynn a lot - so much that i'd probably move jennings to give flynn assurance that he's the future and use jennings to aquire a young wing player.  i like sam young too, but he's not going to be a superstar.

I don't like Hedo and Roy, and maybe I'm the only one but I don't. I like Hedo on Orlando, where he handled the ball, and I love Roy in Portland, where he handled the ball, but I don't like Hedo AND Roy. They both have the rare skillset of being an excellent distributor, excellent ball handler, and excellent iso scorer.  

The problem is there is only one basketball. You have three guys who need it, and only one to use.

Hedo is much less effective without the ball in his hands. That much is common knowledge. If you turn him into a spot up shooter, which you will if you just run him off screens or have him sit in a corner while B Roy or Flynn or Jennings or whoever probes the paint, Hedo goes from a borderline all-star to average player who plays average to mediocre defense.

I don't know if the same goes for Brandon Roy. He plays decent defense, and he's talented enough to make the game come to him. I think he'll be fine. Hedo is the one who is expendable.

Of course Riah, you've heard this spiel from me before.

Does anyone agree?

I think the 2 of them can play well together,they will take turns each possession on as who is going to take the ball to the basket. I am also hoping I can play an uptempo pace so there will be no half court offense just get the ball and go. I also wouldnt hesitate on moving al harrington to the 5 and hedo to the 4 and playing sam young or mo pete at they three or even possibly roy and playing jennings and flynn together. I am fully aware of the match up problems I would have on defense but it would work the other way too. I also sammy dalambert can be a be a big time player for me granted he actually stays motivated and with roy, hedo, and flynn he should be plenty motavated otherwise I got no problem play thabeet who i believe will surprise people this year.

[Rondo2287]

Toronto updated Roster
Pg:Miller/Watson/Maynor
Sg:Afflalo/Belinelli
Sf:Artest/Finley
Pf:KG/Varejao/Oberto
C:Camby/Big Z

[indeedproceed]

Toronto updated Roster
Pg:Miller/Watson/Maynor
Sg:Afflalo/Belinelli
Sf:Artest/Finley
Pf:KG/Varejao/Oberto
C:Camby/Big Z

Your front line wasn't where you needed the work but a really good trade nontheless.

[Roy Hobbs]

Toronto updated Roster
Pg:Miller/Watson/Maynor
Sg:Afflalo/Belinelli
Sf:Artest/Finley
Pf:KG/Varejao/Oberto
C:Camby/Big Z

Your front line wasn't where you needed the work but a really good trade nontheless.

I like the AV pickup, because all three guys on the front line have some health issues.

I still think the SG could be upgraded, but I'll be patient on AA.

[Rondo2287]

I think I did need a little work on the front line.  I was worried about defense on the second unit because we know Z isnt as quick as he once was, I wanted a guy that was better defensive on the quicker PF which I think AV is. 

Also I know people are still hating on my SG position, but I really would much rather go in with a solid defender than a guy that scores 15 points but not much else. 

[ChampKind]

Your 2009 Cavaliers

C  - A. Bogut, A. Blatche, I. Mahinmi
PF - David West, C. Landry, I. Diogu, P. Mensah-Bonsu
SF - M. Miller, L.R. Mbah a Moute, J. Alexander
SG - J. Crawford, C. Bell, B. Rush
PG - D. Harris, L. Williams, K. Weaver, R-L. Ukic

+ whoever the best available player from Vanderbilt is in the 15th round as my 18th man.

Fire away and let me know what I should be looking for in trade season.  I could use a big shot blocker and maybe another true point.

Additionally, a Moute is probably my starter at the 3, Miller at the 2, and Crawford as the microwave off the bench, where we can run the point next to Lou Williams in a smaller lineup while resting the starters, or at the very least get the ball in his hands to create.

[Rondo2287]

I think you definitly have a solid team, I like the Bogut and West combo.  The only weakness that i see is maybe you could do with a better backup PF, but thats nitpicky

[JSD]

I saved my division for Friday. Although I apologize we've dominated the talk here...

Atlantic review:

1. Boston Celtics – Well balanced defensively with the best player in the division and arguably the best scorer in the league. Deep at every position with players that know and are comfortable with their roles (I.E have real life experience).

2. New Jersey Nets – Rings, roll players, scorers, depth and defense. This team is built to operate in the playoffs and built to excel in the half court set. Patrick Ewing Jr. will remind you of the “95” Knicks and so won’t his teams play.  Each game will be grinded out possession by possession.

3. Philadelphia 76ers – This team will run you silly but I can’t envision anything more than a 6 or 7 seed. This team will falter against a solid defensive playoff team with Baron Davis running the point.

4. Toronto Raptors – Look, I know where all enamored with KG and all but did we forget about his Minnesota days? He can not be the primary scorer or go to guy offensively. Great defensive team but one of the worst offensive teams (if not the worst) in the league. This team would be better in the playoffs but I can’t see them there.

5. New York Knicks – Solid players on a team that I can get a grasp on. I love Deron but can’t stand VC’s game. I don’t know, maybe I need to read your vision.

[Rondo2287]

Ha

[Roy Hobbs]

4. Toronto Raptors – Look, I know where all enamored with KG and all but did we forget about his Minnesota days? He can not be the primary scorer or go to guy offensively. Great defensive team but one of the worst offensive teams (if not the worst) in the league. This team would be better in the playoffs but I can’t see them there.

Going outside the game here for a minute, I wouldn't say that's true about KG, at all, and I'm surprised you feel that way.  He's carried our team a ton down the stretch, including being the Celtics leading fourth quarter scorer in our championship run.  Additionally, he was an MVP in Minnesota, due to his play on both ends.

It just seems odd to have that opinion of a guy we've seen play so much over the past two seasons.

[JSD]

4. Toronto Raptors – Look, I know where all enamored with KG and all but did we forget about his Minnesota days? He can not be the primary scorer or go to guy offensively. Great defensive team but one of the worst offensive teams (if not the worst) in the league. This team would be better in the playoffs but I can’t see them there.

Going outside the game here for a minute, I wouldn't say that's true about KG, at all, and I'm surprised you feel that way.  He's carried our team a ton down the stretch, including being the Celtics leading fourth quarter scorer in our championship run.  Additionally, he was an MVP in Minnesota, due to his play on both ends.

It just seems odd to have that opinion of a guy we've seen play so much over the past two seasons.

I'm surprised you disagree to be honest. To me, KG's status that I described has been well documented and witnessed for years. The guy is not a scoring ace, but that's not to take away from what he does on both ends of the floor.

Also Roy, without Garnett, the Celtics score a little better (103.2 PPG versus 99.9 PPG) and their shooting improves (49.8 compared to 48.0). Why is that? (#'s based on last season).

[Rondo2287]

JSAAD how many ppg did Prince average in the playoffs?