2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

From the Movie Line Trivia thread:

Oh, here it is. Bratislava. Hmm. Capital of Slovakia. Oh, here's a fun fact: You made out with your sister, man!

Well here's another fun fact:

IP also forgot to mention that Duncan is 12-1 against Big Al all-time. 

12-1. Not 11-2. Not 10-3. Not 9-4.

12-1. If Jefferson can handle Duncan enough, how did he lose 12 out of 13?

[KCattheStripe]

You Western Conference teams are just wasting your time. All your playing for is for the right to be whooped by the Eastern Conference champion   

West=hype
East=NBA Champion

Being the best in the East is like being the best 11th grade JV player.

I mean its cool..but its not varsity.

Only way the West is HS Varsity is if the East is NCAA

You can't be serious that the east is better. I'm the 7 seed in the West (although I think I should be the 5th) I'd be a top 3 seed in the east.

Not if you were in the central.

[indeedproceed]

From the Movie Line Trivia thread:

Oh, here it is. Bratislava. Hmm. Capital of Slovakia. Oh, here's a fun fact: You made out with your sister, man!

Well here's another fun fact:

IP also forgot to mention that Duncan is 12-1 against Big Al all-time. 

12-1. Not 11-2. Not 10-3. Not 9-4.

12-1. If Jefferson can handle Duncan enough, how did he lose 12 out of 13?

Come on. He lost 12 out of 13 because Ryan Gomes, Sebastain Telfair and that abominable crap storm of a lottery bust Corey Brewer were the other starters. I mean Corey "I can't believe I'm not cut" Brewer.

[KCattheStripe]

From the Movie Line Trivia thread:

Oh, here it is. Bratislava. Hmm. Capital of Slovakia. Oh, here's a fun fact: You made out with your sister, man!

Well here's another fun fact:

IP also forgot to mention that Duncan is 12-1 against Big Al all-time. 

12-1. Not 11-2. Not 10-3. Not 9-4.

12-1. If Jefferson can handle Duncan enough, how did he lose 12 out of 13?

Come on. He lost 12 out of 13 because Ryan Gomes, Sebastain Telfair and that abominable crap storm of a lottery bust Corey Brewer were the other starters. I mean Corey "I can't believe I'm not cut" Brewer.

And you know who won the Spurs one of those games this year, by dropping 50 points? Tony Parker! What playoff team is he on again... oh...right...

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

From the Movie Line Trivia thread:

Oh, here it is. Bratislava. Hmm. Capital of Slovakia. Oh, here's a fun fact: You made out with your sister, man!

Well here's another fun fact:

IP also forgot to mention that Duncan is 12-1 against Big Al all-time. 

12-1. Not 11-2. Not 10-3. Not 9-4.

12-1. If Jefferson can handle Duncan enough, how did he lose 12 out of 13?

Come on. He lost 12 out of 13 because Ryan Gomes, Sebastain Telfair and that abominable crap storm of a lottery bust Corey Brewer were the other starters. I mean Corey "I can't believe I'm not cut" Brewer.

12 out of 13 is a lot of games. If Big Al was a better rebounder and scorer then Tim Duncan, then those numbers should have been a little closer then a Tim Duncan winning percentage of 92.3%. And that was regular season Duncan, not playoff Duncan. And in some of those games, he was with the Celtics, who used Rajon Rondo as their point guard. Rondo and Jefferson couldn't beat Duncan then 

[Roy Hobbs]

From the Movie Line Trivia thread:

Oh, here it is. Bratislava. Hmm. Capital of Slovakia. Oh, here's a fun fact: You made out with your sister, man!

Well here's another fun fact:

IP also forgot to mention that Duncan is 12-1 against Big Al all-time. 

12-1. Not 11-2. Not 10-3. Not 9-4.

12-1. If Jefferson can handle Duncan enough, how did he lose 12 out of 13?

Come on. He lost 12 out of 13 because Ryan Gomes, Sebastain Telfair and that abominable crap storm of a lottery bust Corey Brewer were the other starters. I mean Corey "I can't believe I'm not cut" Brewer.

12 out of 13 is a lot of games. If Big Al was a better rebounder and scorer then Tim Duncan, then those numbers should have been a little closer then a Tim Duncan winning percentage of 92.3%. And that was regular season Duncan, not playoff Duncan. And in some of those games, he was with the Celtics, who used Rajon Rondo as their point guard. Rondo and Jefferson couldn't beat Duncan then 

Well, Duncan *does* have Manu Ginobili on his side.  I hear he's pretty good.   

But yeah, let's not delude ourselves...  Duncan is a great deal better than Big Al, regardless of what empty stats show.

[Kwhit10]

I think it's absurd that people try to argue that some player has a better record against another player.  To think that NBA is an individual game and that a single player on each team is the only factor in who wins, who are sadly mistaken, and I certainly people aren't fooled by this nonsensical manipulation of a stat.

[Roy Hobbs]

I think it's absurd that people try to argue that some player has a better record against another player.  To think that NBA is an individual game and that a single player on each team is the only factor in who wins, who are sadly mistaken, and I certainly people aren't fooled by this nonsensical manipulation of a stat.

Speaking of manipulation of stats, I think the argument that Big Al is better than Tim Duncan is silly.  Who would you take in a game, KWhit?

[Kwhit10]

I think it's absurd that people try to argue that some player has a better record against another player.  To think that NBA is an individual game and that a single player on each team is the only factor in who wins, who are sadly mistaken, and I certainly people aren't fooled by this nonsensical manipulation of a stat.

Speaking of manipulation of stats, I think the argument that Big Al is better than Tim Duncan is silly.  Who would you take in a game, KWhit?

Tim Duncan is better but I don't think it's that far off that people are thinking.

I'm not blowing up over that stat in just this situation, I've seen if argued with other players as well, which blows my mind if people actually believe that as a deciding factor in how that guys 'TEAM' has done against another.

[johnnyrondo]

From the Movie Line Trivia thread:

Oh, here it is. Bratislava. Hmm. Capital of Slovakia. Oh, here's a fun fact: You made out with your sister, man!

Well here's another fun fact:

IP also forgot to mention that Duncan is 12-1 against Big Al all-time. 

12-1. Not 11-2. Not 10-3. Not 9-4.

12-1. If Jefferson can handle Duncan enough, how did he lose 12 out of 13?

Come on. He lost 12 out of 13 because Ryan Gomes, Sebastain Telfair and that abominable crap storm of a lottery bust Corey Brewer were the other starters. I mean Corey "I can't believe I'm not cut" Brewer.

And you know who won the Spurs one of those games this year, by dropping 50 points? Tony Parker! What playoff team is he on again... oh...right...

Darn Swine Mo flu contaminating your team

[Evantime34]

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Re: Fake Playoffs are Here: Hype your Team/Matchup!
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Here's my attempt at explaining why my team will win, I know most of you won't vote for me anyway but here goes.

Portland Trailblazers (Edgar/Roy Hobbs)- Shaquille O'Neal, Jermaine O'Neal, Rashard Lewis, Michael Redd, Mike Bibby, Manu Ginobili, Brad Miller, Delonte West, Ryan Gomes, Ronny Turiaf, Jrue Holiday, Quinton Ross, Jared Dudley, Fred Jones, Taj Gibson

Golden State Warriors (Evantime34)- Carlos Boozer, Steve Nash, Mehmet Okur, Corey Maggette, Luol Deng, Tyreke Evans, Jason Kapono, Danillo Gallinari, Eddie House, Demar Derozen, Desagna Diop, Ime Udoka, Chuck Hayes, Sean Williams, Jamal Tinsley

Team Strategy
We are going to run, in order to get the best match ups available. If we run Shaq's role is largely diminished. Mike Bibby is more of a shoot first point guard, we believe that we can force him into bad shots and more importantly bad decisions if we increase the tempo. Steve Nash will make Bibby look very bad in an uptempo system. If Shaq does play extended minutes Okur will give him hell out by the wing and he won't be in the paint to help defend.

In the uptempo game I see ball movement as being a problem for the Blazers. Bibby is not a pass first point guard as I alluded to earlier, Redd either is a bad passer or chooses not to pass, Shaq is a good passer but will not be useful due to the running of the uptempo system. If you look at the combined assist per game numbers of Portland they are not very high.

Rashard Lewis is a matchup problem mostly because of his shooting ability and height. We have Deng who is nearly as tall and just as fast to guard him at the 3. If Lewis played at the 4 Deng will slide to the four to guard him. Deng is the key in this series in that he can shut down Lewis, Ginobili and Redd for short periods of time with his length.

Portland's rotation is chalk full of three point shooters. I can see them falling in love with the three point shot and not going to the hole. This type of offense can score a lot of points but it can just as easily go through large droughts. Just look at the Magic this year in the playoffs, the looked bad against a depleted Celtics team. Or look at the Celtics of the Jim O'Brien days, they fell in love with the three point shot at the beginning of the game then get down by big numbers.

If we push the tempo we will need to use our bench to keep our players fresh. We believe that our 3 top 10 pick youngsters will step up in this capacity and be the difference in this series. A good game from any of them could be the difference of any given game.

So in conclusion we win one game when Portland can't keep up with the uptempo style. We win another game when Portland's three point shooting leaves them. We take a third game when one of our yongsters steps up. Finally we take a fourth game when the Boozer/Nash pick and roll with Okur spotting up is unstoppable

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

ET34:

What if all of those things happen during 1 game?

[Evantime34]

ET34:

What if all of those things happen during 1 game?

If all those things happen during one game we win by 30+ in that game. Then Portland might have problems simultaneously correcting all those problems at once, for the next game.

[Roy Hobbs]

To the 29 other GMs and Edgar:

I'm hereby resigning my slot as co-GM of the Portland CrotoNats.  This game is no longer fun for me, primarily due to the behavior of a couple of individuals, one of whom has started conflict with no fewer than four GMs in this game.

At this point, I feel as though I can no longer both be a GM in this game and enforce the rules of this forum, as required by my title as Forums Manager.  Certain members are using my position as a GM to engage in rule-breaking behavior, including not limited to trolling, baiting, posting private messages, and lying about my actions to other members.

As such, effective immediately, Edgar will be the only GM of Portland.  I will continue to vote and to ask questions of the various GMs who have participated in this game in good faith.  I will not, however, be speaking on Portland's behalf.

Best of luck, and to the 25+ GMs who have made this game a pleasure, I give you my sincere thanks.

-Roy

[Evantime34]

To the 29 other GMs and Edgar:

I'm hereby resigning my slot as co-GM of the Portland CrotoNats.  This game is no longer fun for me, primarily due to the behavior of a couple of individuals, one of whom has started conflict with no fewer than four GMs in this game.

At this point, I feel as though I can no longer both be a GM in this game and enforce the rules of this forum, as required by my title as Forums Manager.  Certain members are using my position as a GM to engage in rule-breaking behavior, including not limited to trolling, baiting, posting private messages, and lying about my actions to other members.

As such, effective immediately, Edgar will be the only GM of Portland.  I will continue to vote and to ask questions of the various GMs who have participated in this game in good faith.  I will not, however, be speaking on Portland's behalf.

Best of luck, and to the 25+ GMs who have made this game a pleasure, I give you my sincere thanks.

-Roy

I'm sorry to hear that.