2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread

[Roy Hobbs]

I like Gordon.  He's definitely one of the better young guys left on the board.

[StartOrien]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

[Roy Hobbs]

So, we hold the next pick after the break.  PM us with offers.

[Roy Hobbs]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

16?!?!?!

[Rondo2287]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

WHATTT 16?

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

Then you screwed up.

[StartOrien]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

Then you screwed up.

I don't think so

I don't think so. I don't see what Ford brings to a team.

He's injury prone, with limited range and questionable decision making. I also don't think his defense is all that great.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like what he brings a team

[Gainesville Celtic]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

Not to beat a dead horse Roy, and a TP for being a good sport, but IIRC you tried to argue that you got an early-to-mid 2nd round player in Ford when you got him at 3(9). (I only remember this b/c I was nowhere near as high on Ford as you seemed to be)

I'm sure we all do this --- if I get player X at pick Y it's a great pickup; if you get player X at pick Z it's not as good a pick.

We probably all overvalue our own picks (see Miller, Brad; Orlando). Doesn't mean there's not some truth to how we subjectively view the guys we take, but it's not as cut and dry as some of us make it out to be.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

WHATTT 16?

I'm thinking S.O. meant from the start of the draft... i had 14-15 ahead of him then...

If StartOrien meant 16 ahead of Ford STILL ON THE BOARD, then WOW! (He does however want to "Start Orien [Greene]"* so maybe he does mean still on the board)

*full disclosure: so did I   --- c'mon we're both Gainesville, FL natives...

[StartOrien]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

Not to beat a dead horse Roy, and a TP for being a good sport, but IIRC you tried to argue that Ford shoulda been a 2nd round pick when you got him at 3(9).

I'm sure we all do this --- if I get player X at pick Y it's a great pickup; if you get player X at pick Z it's not as good a pick. We probably all overvalue our own picks.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

WHATTT 16?

I'm thinking S.O. meant from the start of the draft... i had 14-15 ahead of him then...

Nope, I have 15 PG's still available ranked higher than him.

[StartOrien]

The Seattle Supersonics select T.J. Ford, point guard, University of Texas

i like it, i think he's severely under rated

I like Ford a lot, too.  He does have some warts, though.  (Injuries, shooting, and chemistry).  Still, I think it's a solid pick here.

IIRC he had none of those warts last year when you picked him 3(9) Roy 

They're warts.  They're not insurmountable, though.  He's a good pick in the third, but he's not a star.

I don't like the Gordon / Ford backcourt very much, honestly.  I think it's going to get exploited by bigger teams.

Not to beat a dead horse Roy, and a TP for being a good sport, but IIRC you tried to argue that Ford shoulda been a 2nd round pick when you got him at 3(9).

I'm sure we all do this --- if I get player X at pick Y it's a great pickup; if you get player X at pick Z it's not as good a pick. We probably all overvalue our own picks.

I don't like the Ford pick myself. I have 16 point guards ahead of him.

WHATTT 16?

I'm thinking S.O. meant from the start of the draft... i had 14-15 ahead of him then...

Nope, I have 15 PG's still available ranked higher than him. Granted, there are some questionable calls in there. But I just don't like him as a player. Again, it seems I'm in a minority, but I wouldn't want him being the starting PG on my team. 

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Possibly looking to move the 3 (17). Would need a great offer though where I get a 3rd back.

[Rondo2287]

Looking to move 3 28 Would need an equally great offer and a 3rd rounder back

[nickagneta]

Boxers are still offering their 5th(3) and later considerations for a late 3rd or 4th round pick

[Roy Hobbs]

Looking to move 3 28 Would need an equally great offer and a 3rd rounder back

Haha.  Pretty funny.

We're willing to move back for the right price, too, of course.

[johnnyrondo]

Bulls are offering a 4 and a 6 for a 3. PM with offers