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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2009, 10:12:03 PM »

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Something to worry about: Earlier this year, when there was a lot of talk that Marbury might become a Celtic, Boston went into a slump. Some suggested the Marbury talk may have unsettled young Boston guard Rajon Rondo.

(http://myespn.go.com/nba/truehoop)

Not sure there's any credibility in it, but fodder for thought/discussion.

Interesting, but probably not a big deal.  Rondo's been so dominant of late and has done something Stephon hasn't: won a title.  

Though I don't love this idea (because I don't love small backcourts), I do think that if Marbury plays really well (like he used to), he'll probably get all the minutes backing up the 1 and 2, potentially giving him 20-25 minutes per night.  That way he won't have to steal any of Rondo's minutes and he can still get significant minutes.  

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2009, 10:17:20 PM »

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A vaguely disturbing TrueHoop analysis:

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Something to worry about: Earlier this year, when there was a lot of talk that Marbury might become a Celtic, Boston went into a slump. Some suggested the Marbury talk may have unsettled young Boston guard Rajon Rondo.

(http://myespn.go.com/nba/truehoop)

Not sure there's any credibility in it, but fodder for thought/discussion.

Interesting, but probably not a big deal.  Rondo's been so dominant of late and has done something Stephon hasn't: won a title.  

Though I don't love this idea (because I don't love small backcourts), I do think that if Marbury plays really well (like he used to), he'll probably get all the minutes backing up the 1 and 2, potentially giving him 20-25 minutes per night.  That way he won't have to steal any of Rondo's minutes and he can still get significant minutes.  

Yeah just like when Cassell smacked Rondo in the head like a week before joining the team, everyone said Rondo was going to slump.

The Marbury talk back in December probably amplified our slump, but it has nothing to do with Rondo worrying about Steph.  He will be just fine.

It will be interesting to see how well (or poorly) they function when out on the floor together.  I'd like to see a lineup of Rondo, Steph, Ray, KG, and Powe out there just running people off the floor..

Also Steph, House, PP, Mikki and Perk is going to be a nice unit IMO
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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2009, 10:20:16 PM »

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marbury will work as a celtic since he actually has a team he can work with.

star players liek marbury, pierce, except maybe garnett become grumpy and sometimes don't give it their all when they are placed in a team with less than stellar level of talent.

I see marbury's problems during his career mainly having to do with immaturity, coaches unable to communicate with him effectively etc.

I believe he wants revenge on the fans, media and ex coaches that think less of him

and i'm glad he will show his rage in a celtics uniform.

don't forget why he was signed to such a ridiculous contract in the first place. His talents were (and prob still could be) to the level of some of the nba greats today such a as kobe bryant.

Best case scenerio we will be a scary team(even scarier than last year) worst case scenerio marbury gets waived again and never plays in the nba again. Doubt that will happen

I love the revisionist history in this post. Marbury has payed with talent before. This woul not be new to him. The problem is that Marbury eventually will do what he wants to do which is try to score 25 a night, pound the ball and not play any defense.

And let's not not make excuses. Marbury has shown no evidence of growing up even last year. His own team didn't even want him to dress. He was universally thought as that bad of a teammate. Our lockerroom is "Shangri-la" right now. Why would we want to upset that with someone like this??
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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2009, 10:21:36 PM »

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As someone else mentioned I'm glad we didn't have to trade any of young guys Powe, BBD, Giddens, Walker, or Pruitt to get both of these guys.  We can finally put all the Scal + BBD + Pruitt or whoever trade ideas to rest.  

What worries me with most PGs starting with a new team in midstream during the season is that he has to learn all the plays and doesn't have a training camp to work with.   We saw this last year where Cassel didn't know the plays good enough to run them efficiently.  I just hope the ball doesn't get sticky and the ball movement is still there with the second unit.  

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2009, 10:24:45 PM »

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i like a marbury match up against boobie gibson..jordan farmar....and if rondo struggles...gets hurt....fouls...they have a bonafide starting PG to plug in...

I know... scary. Marbury going at full speed for 15-20 minutes will torch those dudes.

15-20 of Marbury on defense against those 2 might have Cleveland and LA smiling too.

They can't be smiling more than when Eddie House plays D.

Right. I'll take Marbury over Farmar/Gibson this spring any day of the week.

Not for nothin but Farmar and Gibson are teammates well respected by their teams superstars. They know their roles and they play within them. Marbury has never really been able to do this. I can't believe how willing some people are to write off everything they know about Stephon and the wreckage he's left in his wake over the years. Why put our team at risk?
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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #140 on: February 24, 2009, 10:25:58 PM »

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Despite the hyperbolic giddiness on this board, Steph's game doesn't measure up to Rondo's in any way, shape or form.

Rondo should understand that after his recent resurgence.

  It isn't whether Rondo understands that that we should be concerned about. It's whether Doc understands that.

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2009, 10:29:25 PM »

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As someone else mentioned I'm glad we didn't have to trade any of young guys Powe, BBD, Giddens, Walker, or Pruitt to get both of these guys.  We can finally put all the Scal + BBD + Pruitt or whoever trade ideas to rest.  

What worries me with most PGs starting with a new team in midstream during the season is that he has to learn all the plays and doesn't have a training camp to work with.   We saw this last year where Cassel didn't know the plays good enough to run them efficiently.  I just hope the ball doesn't get sticky and the ball movement is still there with the second unit.  

TP for a great point. Moore should have no problem fitting in even while he's learning the plays. He can roll to open spots and he'll be able to finish at the rim playing off of the Big 3 and Rondo. PGs are gonna have much more of a problem as was shown last year with Cassell and that's well before you bring Marbury's long list of issues into the fold. This just screams disaster.
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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2009, 10:31:05 PM »

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rondo is playing as confident as i have ever seen..on the road...you think marbury is going to spook him?...not a chance

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #143 on: February 24, 2009, 10:37:41 PM »

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When Marbury signs here by the weekend, can we already say that our bench is really solid?

1. We lacked intensity, height and experience from a veteran center: Danny sends O'Bryant to the Raptors and gets Mikki Moore

2. We need a ball handler, some scoring from the bench: Danny signs Stephon Marbury

If Scalabrine gets his health back, and Tony can make it for the playoffs, don't you think this team is even better than last year's?

a. The team chemistry: players have been playing together for longer
b. Rondo, Allen, Perkins, Scalabrine, Davis...they have all improved their performances this year
c. The bench is younger: Cassell and Brown combined to 78 years of age. Marbury and Moore make 65.


There are many reasons to be optimistic if/when Marbury finally wears that green jersey ;)

By the way, I wonder if he should wear #8 or #30. Which # do you think he'll wear?

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #144 on: February 24, 2009, 10:45:17 PM »

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marbury will work as a celtic since he actually has a team he can work with.

star players liek marbury, pierce, except maybe garnett become grumpy and sometimes don't give it their all when they are placed in a team with less than stellar level of talent.

I see marbury's problems during his career mainly having to do with immaturity, coaches unable to communicate with him effectively etc.

I believe he wants revenge on the fans, media and ex coaches that think less of him

and i'm glad he will show his rage in a celtics uniform.

don't forget why he was signed to such a ridiculous contract in the first place. His talents were (and prob still could be) to the level of some of the nba greats today such a as kobe bryant.

Best case scenerio we will be a scary team(even scarier than last year) worst case scenerio marbury gets waived again and never plays in the nba again. Doubt that will happen

I love the revisionist history in this post. Marbury has payed with talent before. This woul not be new to him. The problem is that Marbury eventually will do what he wants to do which is try to score 25 a night, pound the ball and not play any defense.

And let's not not make excuses. Marbury has shown no evidence of growing up even last year. His own team didn't even want him to dress. He was universally thought as that bad of a teammate. Our lockerroom is "Shangri-la" right now. Why would we want to upset that with someone like this??
Darius was considered a cancer as well when we signed him. Even though we had him for a short time he was the furthest thing from a bad guy form what we saw. I've watched a few of the grizzlies games and he's mellowed down alot compared to what he used to be. Darius ain't Marbury, but who knows what'll go on he must've settled for less money if they bought him out since they weren't going to pay him the full so he could parade off to Boston, NY hates ALL Boston teams. Maybe he finally realized this is a great chance to get a ring, and THAT would really p--- NY and every1 else off who doubted him, or I could be wrong and the locker room will be set ablaze!
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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #145 on: February 24, 2009, 10:57:05 PM »

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As someone else mentioned I'm glad we didn't have to trade any of young guys Powe, BBD, Giddens, Walker, or Pruitt to get both of these guys.  We can finally put all the Scal + BBD + Pruitt or whoever trade ideas to rest.  

What worries me with most PGs starting with a new team in midstream during the season is that he has to learn all the plays and doesn't have a training camp to work with.   We saw this last year where Cassel didn't know the plays good enough to run them efficiently.  I just hope the ball doesn't get sticky and the ball movement is still there with the second unit.  

TP for a great point. Moore should have no problem fitting in even while he's learning the plays. He can roll to open spots and he'll be able to finish at the rim playing off of the Big 3 and Rondo. PGs are gonna have much more of a problem as was shown last year with Cassell and that's well before you bring Marbury's long list of issues into the fold. This just screams disaster.

Can't say the ball moves that well with TA or Eddie handling the ball. Marbury will have options on the wings and he will have bigs underneath to dish to - he can play the game and will have vets in Moore and House that will help him.

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #146 on: February 24, 2009, 11:59:42 PM »

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As someone else mentioned I'm glad we didn't have to trade any of young guys Powe, BBD, Giddens, Walker, or Pruitt to get both of these guys.  We can finally put all the Scal + BBD + Pruitt or whoever trade ideas to rest.  

What worries me with most PGs starting with a new team in midstream during the season is that he has to learn all the plays and doesn't have a training camp to work with.   We saw this last year where Cassel didn't know the plays good enough to run them efficiently.  I just hope the ball doesn't get sticky and the ball movement is still there with the second unit.  

TP for a great point. Moore should have no problem fitting in even while he's learning the plays. He can roll to open spots and he'll be able to finish at the rim playing off of the Big 3 and Rondo. PGs are gonna have much more of a problem as was shown last year with Cassell and that's well before you bring Marbury's long list of issues into the fold. This just screams disaster.

Can't say the ball moves that well with TA or Eddie handling the ball. Marbury will have options on the wings and he will have bigs underneath to dish to - he can play the game and will have vets in Moore and House that will help him.

So will Gabe Pruitt. So would any number of PGs we could bring in here. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that Stephon Marbury is our best option just because he has a little overhyped talent.
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Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #147 on: February 25, 2009, 12:06:02 AM »

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marbury will work as a celtic since he actually has a team he can work with.

star players liek marbury, pierce, except maybe garnett become grumpy and sometimes don't give it their all when they are placed in a team with less than stellar level of talent.

I see marbury's problems during his career mainly having to do with immaturity, coaches unable to communicate with him effectively etc.

I believe he wants revenge on the fans, media and ex coaches that think less of him

and i'm glad he will show his rage in a celtics uniform.

don't forget why he was signed to such a ridiculous contract in the first place. His talents were (and prob still could be) to the level of some of the nba greats today such a as kobe bryant.

Best case scenerio we will be a scary team(even scarier than last year) worst case scenerio marbury gets waived again and never plays in the nba again. Doubt that will happen

I love the revisionist history in this post. Marbury has payed with talent before. This woul not be new to him. The problem is that Marbury eventually will do what he wants to do which is try to score 25 a night, pound the ball and not play any defense.

And let's not not make excuses. Marbury has shown no evidence of growing up even last year. His own team didn't even want him to dress. He was universally thought as that bad of a teammate. Our lockerroom is "Shangri-la" right now. Why would we want to upset that with someone like this??
Darius was considered a cancer as well when we signed him. Even though we had him for a short time he was the furthest thing from a bad guy form what we saw. I've watched a few of the grizzlies games and he's mellowed down alot compared to what he used to be. Darius ain't Marbury, but who knows what'll go on he must've settled for less money if they bought him out since they weren't going to pay him the full so he could parade off to Boston, NY hates ALL Boston teams. Maybe he finally realized this is a great chance to get a ring, and THAT would really **** NY and every1 else off who doubted him, or I could be wrong and the locker room will be set ablaze!

I went to watch the Grizzlies play the Kings last week and Darius actually seemed to be a good presence on the bench and in warm ups. He kept the bench loose and laughing. I think he's a good vet to have on a young team. Maybe resign him GPA all retire. :P

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #148 on: February 25, 2009, 01:36:47 AM »

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So will Gabe Pruitt. So would any number of PGs we could bring in here. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that Stephon Marbury is our best option just because he has a little overhyped talent.

A "little" overhyped talent? ****. Stephon Marbury has SICK - SICK talent. That's the whole issue with him. He is total NBA freak the kind of guy who seems born with a basketball in his hand. Its guys like Marbury who make it seem as if rec players like me are playing an entirely different sport.

The guy has averages of 20 points and 8 assists.. How many guys in the NBA do that? Those are CAREER AVERAGES. The last PG we had who even came close to that was Sherm Douglas. You have to go all the way back to Tiny Archibald to find those kind of numbers. And you know what - Marbury's averages are STILL better then Tiny's career averages.

Your losing all kinds of credibility with lame insults claiming Marbury had a little overhyped talent. <g> The guy is a ridiculously good pick up for us. Remember he is only 31 years old.

The only downside to this acquisition is that we already have a near all-star in Rondo and neither can really play well off the ball. <g> So together they don't have any synergy.

Re: Report: Stephon Marbury Will be a Celtic
« Reply #149 on: February 25, 2009, 02:41:45 AM »

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It's going to be interesting if Marbs does come here. He's obviously a hell of a talent, but at the same time he's probably certifiably insane. I do think he's really a good guy, though. He gives to charities like it's nothing, he gave over a million dollars to Kitrina victims, and his shoe line is noble to say the least... So yea, probably crazy but in the end probably also a really good guy.

I don't think one Stephon Marbury can destroy the Celtics' chemistry, anyway. And we do need him to have a legitimate chance at a repeat, or at least a better one. Having that sort of talent coming off your bench doesn't happen every day.

So everyone should just make a wish upon a Star(bury)