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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2009, 10:27:14 PM »

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No, but Scal may be proving that he should get more PT.  Like Powe and Baby, he's undersized to play the 5 (and arguably even the 4); however, unlike Powe and Baby, he can spread opposing defenses with his range.  That's probably worth having in the second unit over what's essentially two of the same thing in Powe and Davis. 

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2009, 10:29:16 PM »

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Isn't Scal 6'9"? I think he's taller than Powe or Baby.

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2009, 10:30:21 PM »

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i've been saying for the last 2 years that if scal didnt have an absurdly insane contract he would be one of the most loved players ever.

think about if he was makin the vet minimum and was our 9th man,,,and came in and did the job he has done in Perks place....it would be considered amazing,,but his contract has caused him so much trouble,,,personally i love scals game for what he can bring to the table...limtied as it may be
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2009, 10:34:30 PM »

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i've been saying for the last 2 years that if scal didnt have an absurdly insane contract he would be one of the most loved players ever.

think about if he was makin the vet minimum and was our 9th man,,,and came in and did the job he has done in Perks place....it would be considered amazing,,but his contract has caused him so much trouble,,,personally i love scals game for what he can bring to the table...limtied as it may be

Somewhat true.  One could also argue that if we had a bench with any talent, he wouldn't even be on the active roster (see last year, and our bench wasn't even that impressive then).  He's really only a good option right now because our bench is so bad. 

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2009, 10:36:55 PM »

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i suppose if marty conlon had been making 3 mil. a year he wouldn't have been so beloved, so i'll agree that his contract does make him an easy target.  that's not his fault, but i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2009, 10:40:17 PM »

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i suppose if marty conlon had been making 3 mil. a year he wouldn't have been so beloved, so i'll agree that his contract does make him an easy target.  that's not his fault, but i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

ya,,,he was limited when we signed him and is limited now.....what has improved is not his game,,,its his teammates, with good players surrounding him, he can fill his role really well, which he is doing now......good help defender, who makes smart decisions and can knock down threes...exactly what he did in NJ
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2009, 10:42:15 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2009, 10:46:46 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

i dont wanna overappreciate scal....i said he's a serviceable 9th man...maybe even 10th,,,,considering a lot of playoff teams rock an 8 man rotation...i still know his role should be limited
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« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2009, 10:48:33 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

i dont wanna overappreciate scal....i said he's a serviceable 9th man...maybe even 10th,,,,considering a lot of playoff teams rock an 8 man rotation...i still know his role should be limited

You're right - 10th man in a 8-man playoff rotation; 10th man in a 10th man regular season rotation are his limits. He's not a starting center in the NBA or a primary wing backup or a Posey replacement, as I've been reading over here lately (obviously not from you).

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2009, 10:50:37 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

i dont wanna overappreciate scal....i said he's a serviceable 9th man...maybe even 10th,,,,considering a lot of playoff teams rock an 8 man rotation...i still know his role should be limited

You're right. He's not a starting center in the NBA or a primary wing backup or a Posey replacement, as I've been reading over here lately (obviously not from you).

correcting on all counts,,,esp not hearing from me..lol...tp

def not a starter, primary backup,,,and most certainly not Posey
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« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2009, 10:52:02 PM »

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Hahaha. The Suns just got utterly annihilated. That's got to hurt morale. Forget individual stats, Nash and Shaq are Suns' leaders, and their team just got SPANKED!

I wouldn't blame either one for fearing match-ups with Rondo/Scal from now on. 

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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2009, 11:12:07 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

I think most of the people that like Scal in the starting line up has more to do because we like how the rest of the starters play with him rather on how good Scal is.

I, for example, like him playing as a PF with our starters. I don't like him in many other roles in this team. I don't like him much playing with our bench players, especially as a small forward. That's just my opinion, nothing about me personally believing Scal is beast or anything along those lines, but me seeing a lot of positive in certain roles in this team.

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« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2009, 11:15:58 PM »

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yes,,,he plays well when he is supposed to be the 5th best player on the court....hence he plays well with big 3 plus rondo, when there is no questions that he is the 5th banana

put him out there with bench guys and he struggles b/c his role is being a role player with good players
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2009, 11:18:22 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

I think most of the people that like Scal in the starting line up has more to do because we like how the rest of the starters play with him rather on how good Scal is.

I, for example, like him playing as a PF with our starters. I don't like him in many other roles in this team. I don't like him much playing with our bench players, especially as a small forward. That's just my opinion, nothing about me personally believing Scal is beast or anything along those lines, but me seeing a lot of positive in certain roles in this team.

I don't get your point. You like him playing as a PF? But would you bench Garnett? Every single one of our bench players would be favored if they're playing with 4 starters, that's not only about Scal. Guys are in rotations because they are good enough to be there. I completely agree with Scal starting in the absence of KG or Perkins and I said this team needed Scal in the rotation to calm down and recover their mojo. Keep him in there, only if the other guys don't find a way to finally step up. But in that case, we'd be in trouble.

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« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2009, 11:20:42 PM »

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i see nothing in his game that's improved during his 4 year tenure here.

Me neither. But that's not unusual.

However, after being the one calling for Doc to work Scal into the rotation during the losing skid, I feel vindicated.

With that in mind, I remember when there was a large consensus about cutting Scal and how he was the worst player in this team. That was pathetic. But now Scal is being over-appreciated by some and that's equally pathetic.

In regular circumstances, Scal doesn't belong in a championship team rotation. He's a very useful player, but not that good.

I think most of the people that like Scal in the starting line up has more to do because we like how the rest of the starters play with him rather on how good Scal is.

I, for example, like him playing as a PF with our starters. I don't like him in many other roles in this team. I don't like him much playing with our bench players, especially as a small forward. That's just my opinion, nothing about me personally believing Scal is beast or anything along those lines, but me seeing a lot of positive in certain roles in this team.

I don't get your point. You like him playing as a PF? But would you bench Garnett? Every single one of our bench players would be favored if they're playing with 4 starters, that's not only about Scal. Guys are in rotations because they are good enough to be there. I completely agree with Scal starting in the absence of KG or Perkins and I said this team needed Scal in the rotation to calm down and recover their mojo. Keep him in there, only if the other guys don't find a way to finally step up. But in that case, we'd be in trouble.

Garnett is the Center. Scal is the PF. And it's not about Scal playing good. Look at tonight as an example, he struggled offensively, but our starting unit played great, the spacing is great.

The point is that it's not about how well Scal performs. It's about how the team performs. I like the starters with a PF spreading the floor, and the guy is good in defensive rotations.